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Russia is trying to help Bernie become President

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posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:03 PM
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i mean sure since russia is also a more conservative country much like America it would make sense that they would want sanders as trumps competition since such an extreme liberal would ruin any chance the Democrats have to secure conservative and more moderate votes and guarantee a trump win. but where exactly is this manipulation from russia that i keep hearing about, i haven't ever seen it myself.




posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:04 PM
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a reply to: Gojira54

Russia is obviously meddling to help Bernie get the Dem nomination...in order to help Trump win in 2020.

Why?
Because Putin is a masochist and loves US Sanctions and the fact that Trump wiped out hundreds of Russian troops in Syria.
edit on 21-2-2020 by IAMTAT because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: RazorV66
Who cares?....but I thought Russia was trying to help Trump?
The DNC and their half-assed candidates are the ones who are really helping Trump.


No - they are pretending to want to help Trump - which is probably the best thing they could do to try and keep him from being elected - but it's not nearly enough.



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:08 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
Russia wants to create chaos in our government and society.


Look around, mission accomplished.

Countless important positions in our gov. have been sitting empty for 3 years without even so much as an "acting" filler, let alone an actual nominee.

Partisan division hasn't been higher since the Civil War.

The idea that Bernie would be "better" at creating such chaos is laughable. Bernie would need to get anything he wanted passed through Congress, and Bernie doesn't have the blind partisan support that Trump enjoys.



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:09 PM
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Bernie will be history after Super Tuesday. Right now the DNC is looking the most electable candidate, preferably one with a chance in hell of beating President Trump. This group is the best cocktail joke material I’ve seen since Bill Clinton.
Unless something horrible happens, Trump will be re-elected.



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:10 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Gojira54

Russia does not want Bernie to be president.
They want him to be the democratic nominee.
Because they know that America will not elect a democratic socialist for president therefor making trump president for another four years.
Lets not fool ourselves into thinking they would want Bernie as president.

They want trump and only trump.


And nobody on the DNC side can beat Trump.. your point?

Oh, wait... you never really have a point, do you?



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:13 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
Because they know that America will not elect a democratic socialist for president therefor making trump president for another four years.


...because any of the other 5 dipsnips running for the Dem nomination would fare so much better than Sanders against Donald Trump. /sarcasm



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:14 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Gojira54

Russia does not want Bernie to be president.
They want him to be the democratic nominee.
Because they know that America will not elect a democratic socialist for president therefor making trump president for another four years.
Lets not fool ourselves into thinking they would want Bernie as president.

They want trump and only trump.


Silly - I guarantee you Russia would love for Bernie to become the US president.

Why? Because he would destroy the US economy and improve Russia's influence in the world.

This is not rocket science. I am looking at Bernies public policies and their obvious outcome, you are basing your conclusion off of Russian collusion porn.



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: Nickn3

Nah, Dems are now making the same mistake that the Republicans made in 2016... they're all refusing to exit the race and give a clear and unified option vs. "the outsider".

They're all hanging on and dividing the "moderate vote" which leaves an outsider like Bernie, or in 2016 Trump, the ability to pull away with the lead.
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posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:20 PM
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originally posted by: redmage
a reply to: Nickn3

Nah, Dems are now making the same mistake that the Republicans made in 2016... they're all refusing to exit the race and give a clear and unified option vs. the "outsider".

They're all hanging on and dividing the "moderate vote" which leaves an outsider like Bernie, or in 2016 Trump, the ability to pull away with the lead.


Explain to me how someone that has been a US Senator caucusing with the Democratic Party for 13 years following 16 years as a US Congressman (also caucusing with the Democrats) who already ran for president and made it to the convention with a still strong chance of getting the party's nomination 4 years ago can possibly be viewed as any sort of "outsider" in DC.



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:20 PM
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originally posted by: proximo
Silly - I guarantee you Russia would love for Bernie to become the US president.

Why? Because he would destroy the US economy and improve Russia's influence in the world.

This is not rocket science. I am looking at Bernies public policies and their obvious outcome, you are basing your conclusion off of Russian collusion porn.


Again, Bernie would need to get anything he wanted passed through Congress, and Bernie doesn't have the blind partisan support that Trump enjoys, so he would be pretty harmless overall.

That said, you're right that this isn't rocket science, but you're wrong on how effective Bernie would be.



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:23 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Bernie is a democratic socialist.

I know the right likes to paint all dems as "socialists", but that's simply not the case when facts are taken into account.

Bernie actually being a democratic socialist makes him an outlier in the party, and in effect an outsider who often goes against the grain of the democratic party.


edit on 2/21/20 by redmage because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:27 PM
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If Bernie wins the Democrat Primary...the Democrat Party officially becomes the Socialist Party.



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:27 PM
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originally posted by: redmage

originally posted by: proximo
Silly - I guarantee you Russia would love for Bernie to become the US president.

Why? Because he would destroy the US economy and improve Russia's influence in the world.

This is not rocket science. I am looking at Bernies public policies and their obvious outcome, you are basing your conclusion off of Russian collusion porn.


Again, Bernie would need to get anything he wanted passed through Congress, and Bernie doesn't have the blind partisan support that Trump enjoys, so he would be pretty harmless overall.

That said, you're right that this isn't rocket science, but you're wrong on how effective Bernie would be.



On several major issues that matter, he'd be effective enough to screw the country up for generations.
FACT: The Democratic Party have the lawmaker numbers to FUBAR healthcare as Bernie wants to do
FACT: The Democratic Party have the lawmaker numbers to hose the US economy in the name of "Climate Change" as Bernie wants to do
FACT: The Democratic Party have the lawmaker numbers to screw the 2nd Amendment supporters as Bernie wants to do
FACT: The Democratic Party have the lawmaker numbers to undo all the progress this country has made, the incredible, beautiful progress from the last 3 years as Bernie wants to do.

I don't know why I'm arguing this, TBH... it's not like Bernie stands a snowball's chance in hell of winning the general anyway. Hell, the frazzled old fool couldn't even get closer than 4 million votes behind the most unpopular Democratic candidate in history 4 years ago... even his own party's voters, at least those with gainful employment, reject his Alzheimer's fueled horsecrap.



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: redmage
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Bernie is a democratic socialist.

I know the right likes to paint all dems as "socialists", but that's simply not the case when facts are taken into account.

Bernie actually being a democratic socialist makes him an outlier in the party, and in effect an outsider who often goes against the grain of the democratic party.



Bernie is a Marxist.

Period.

LOL at "Democratic Socialist" though.

It's like saying "It's not slavery... it's Democratic slavery!!""

THAT being said, Bernie Sanders will never be President of the United States.

He doesn't have to be.... he has already advanced the Progressive cause so far that socialist ideas are being discussed as mainstream political platforms.

No....

Bernie will take a MASSIVE amount of money at this DNC convention to tell his cult following that they should "do the right thing and vote for" whomever pays him the most... probably little Mike.

Then he will continue his Progressive cause at its spiritual leader and pass the political torch to someone like AOC.




posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:36 PM
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originally posted by: redmage
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Bernie is a democratic socialist.

I know the right likes to paint all dems as "socialists", but that's simply not the case when facts are taken into account.

Bernie actually being a democratic socialist makes him an outlier in the party, and in effect an outsider who often goes against the grain of the democratic party.



The moderator on that fateful night aksed the candidates "Who agrees that undocumented immigrants (illegal aliens) in the United States should receive free (Working US citizen tax payer funded) health care."

Now, I'm not going to take the Joe Biden route and call you a lying dog faced pony soldier... but I will tell you your narrative is as false as Elizabeth Warren's claim to be an indian. Every single Democrat candidate is now a "democratic Socialist" (read: a commie). Hell no to that nonsense. Your party is a dumpster fire and every goddamn lie your party and your voters tell the good people of the USA pours a little more gasoline onto that dumpster fire and hey, just to reassure you, if that sumbitch ever looks to be smoldering down a bit, dying out... you damn well better believe I've got a book of matches to spark it up again until it is little more than ash in a can waiting to be dumped in a hole and buried, exactly where this communist horsecrap the left has decided to embrace belongs. Any who continue to cling to it as it is incinerated and buried will burn alongside it same as any other dried out, well seasoned firewood does.



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:38 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

I've been listening to media "experts" on this subject today.

They think voters are as STUPID as they are.

WRONG AGAIN!



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:38 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
FACT: The Democratic Party have the lawmaker numbers to FUBAR healthcare as Bernie wants to do


Not true. Bernie wants Medicare for all, and the party is very divided on such a proposal.

Furthermore, McConnell would never let it even reach a vote on the Senate floor.


originally posted by: burdman30ott6
FACT: The Democratic Party have the lawmaker numbers to hose the US economy in the name of "Climate Change" as Bernie wants to do


Not true, McConnell would never let such reach a vote on the Senate floor.


originally posted by: burdman30ott6
FACT: The Democratic Party have the lawmaker numbers to screw the 2nd Amendment supporters as Bernie wants to do


Not true, McConnell would never let it reach a vote on the Senate floor.


originally posted by: burdman30ott6
FACT: The Democratic Party have the lawmaker numbers to undo all the progress this country has made, the incredible, beautiful progress from the last 3 years as Bernie wants to do.


LOL


originally posted by: burdman30ott6
I don't know why I'm arguing this, TBH... it's not like Bernie stands a snowball's chance in hell of winning the general anyway.


Yup, you should have gone with your first instinct.



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari
Bernie will take a MASSIVE amount of money at this DNC convention to tell his cult following that they should "do the right thing and vote for" whomever pays him the most... probably little Mike.


OK Bloomer isn't Hillary Clinton, though. Bloomer will demand results for his buy out of Sanders, results Bernie failed to deliver to Clinton when he took her buy out and kissed her ass wetly at the convention. Bloomberg is probably more likely to flick Bernie away from him with the same consideration a child pays to a booger stuck to his or her finger if he believes the band of imbeciles supporting Bernie because "OMG, free stuff!!! We can sit on our asses and the workers will pay our way!" aren't controlable by Comrade Sanders.



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 05:41 PM
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a reply to: redmage

Ah yes, but the Left believes they can also win the Senate, which would change the game, yes? I support the boot to throat strategy. Presently Trump and McConnell have their boot on the Dems' throats... don't ease up, push down harder. Kill it, kill it then burn it.




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