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Topic started on 10-3-2005 @ 09:06 AM by mrmulder
Okay, I know this has been discussed numerous times on this board but I found this article that is supposedly new that compares Bush to Hitler. It makes alot of sense and is IMO a really good article.

Senator Byrd is correct to equate Bush with Hitler
March 7, 2005

The U.S. Senate's senior Constitutional scholar has correctly equated Bush with Hitler, and the usual attack dogs are howling. But they are wrong, and Americans must now face the harsh realities of an increasingly fascist and totalitarian GOP.

Octogenarian Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia made the equation in the context of Bush's attack on Senate procedures which might slow or halt his on-going attempt to pack the courts with extreme right-wing fanatics. Byrd said Bush's moves to destroy time-honored Senate rules parallel Hitler's ramming fascist legislation through his gutted Reichstag. "Hitler never abandoned the cloak of legality," said Byrd. "He recognized the enormous psychological value of having the law on his side. Instead, he turned the law inside out and made illegality legal."

Anti-Defamation League Director Abraham Foxman has played the holocaust card for the Republicans, saying "It is hideous, outrageous and offensive for Senator Byrd to suggest that the Republican Party's tactics could in any way resemble those of Adolph Hitler and the Nazi Party.


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I like what the writer has to say in this article it points out alot of interesting things. For example when Bush is trying to push for a one party leadership, I find this to be true. Hitler did the same. Did he not?


reply posted on 10-3-2005 @ 11:34 AM by Kidfinger
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird

People killed in Iraq/Afghan war:
Total - >20,000




You are just talking about the Iraqi casualties there.

www.iraqbodycount.net...

Now you need to add in the US count,
between 5400 and 5700
www.iraqbodycount.net...

Now you add up all the other countries who have lost troops due to the war............

See my point? Many more were affected than just our US military. Members from MANY nations have died in these conflicts. THe estimates are not quite in the millions, but are definatly not in the low 20 thousands. More like 50 to 80 thousand total as an estimate.


reply posted on 10-3-2005 @ 02:16 PM by sigung86
I'm amazed how folks can take an evil, twisted phenomenon like the Hitler and make comparisons to someone like Bush, etc. etc. Seems to me like that is simply to bait and hassle his supporters.

Bush and his government are not evil. They are, instead, a result of the what "We, the People" have become in the past 60+ years since WWII. You can laugh at Bush. You can hate Bush and his cronies. You may revile him in your mind and heart to the point of hatred, but he is the direct outcome of what we have become. For better or worse, he representative of us, as a culture.

If you want something better, then you need to get off your collective duffs, get out from behind the keyboards and begin to get actively involved in working for change. there's an old acronym in data processing that is used to describe inanity, or just plain lazy ineptitude. PEBCAK ... Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard. Or as Pogo, an old comic strip character, once said, "We has met the enemy and he is us"!

We were left with two, less than stellar, options for Presidential candidacy last election. Many of us sat around and decried Bush and his hooligans vs. Kerry and his hooligans. Some of us saw that there was really no marked difference in the two, save for political afiliation. But most of us did not do much more than sit around the keyboards and type in vituperation.

Ya gotta get past the invective. Ya gotta quit baiting each other with inflammatory Bull-Dada. Ya gotta work for change. It's not easy, and most folks can't be bothered, other than to complain when it, finally, affects them personally. By then it's too late. If you want change.... If you don't like Bush then get busy now, and begin to work on a new shape of the future. It isn't easy! But, it's the tools that our fathers left us to work political change.

I find the emotional attempt to compare Bush to Hitler is irrelevent, laughable, and usually made by people who have no real inkling of just how evil that real evil can be. Someone doing something you don't like doesn't make them evil. It only makes them free to get out and impose their vision and will, because we, collectively, do nothing to change the outcome.

I'm nobody, but I find this discussion trivial and probably a real waste of space. I've done my share of that here, as well, and for that I apologize.
I just find it sad when so many very smart, and otherwise, impressive people lose sight of the actual goals and outcomes and sink to this sort of flummery.

Hitler? Bah! Bush isn't an evil pimple on the butt of true evil.

Edited to spell "very" correctly...

[edit on 10-3-2005 by sigung86]


reply posted on 10-3-2005 @ 03:50 PM by LogansRun
Originally posted by kozmo
What a joke How stupid are some people? Did you not leearn about the halocost in history? Did they not teach you about Hitler? There is NO comparison... PERIOD! To make any feeble-minded attempt to create one simply shows one's own partisan ignorance.

Also, coming from Senator Byrd, the former Grand Kleagle of the Klu Klux Klan ... Yeah, he should know a thing or two about Hitler as the KKK is the closest thing to the Nazi's to ever take a foothold in the States. What a JOKE!


I cant take this crap anymore. Do you neo con's read anything? And you call us stupid???? They are comparing the tactics used to come to power, not the actual methods of extermination!!! What is so frigging hard to realize about that?!?!? Obviously we don' t have concentration camps slaughtering Iraqi's by the millions, but the methods used by this administration mirrors those of Hitler. They are changing the very definition of words and ideas to fit their agenda and change the laws to say it is ok for them to do so, and not ok for anyone or anything to question it. Hitler came to power with a country drunk on patriotism. Many Germans looked the other way while Hitler quietly manipulated key elements to do everything they wanted to do. Think there is nothing to compare?? I can search through this very website and find numerous posts of people who would support nuking the entire middle east for our "self defense" because of 911, well if that ever happened, it would make Hitler & the Nazi regime look like strawberry shortcake....

[edit on 10-3-2005 by LogansRun]
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