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College student, James King, learns first hand about the US police state.

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posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 05:15 PM
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After Police Brutally Beat & Hospitalized James King, The Government Closed Ranks and Is Using a Legal Shell Game To Avoid Accountability.


We filed this lawsuit in 2016. It’s now 2020 and the government still hasn’t even filed an answer addressing all the claims that we’ve raised.

Instead, they’ve spent the past four years filing different motions with courts, arguing under technicalities why they shouldn’t be held accountable rather than explaining why what they did actually wasn’t wrong.”

One of those technicalities is called “qualified immunity,” a special legal protection the Supreme Court created in the 1980s to protect government officials.

Under qualified immunity, officers can violate the Constitution unless previous court rulings have explicitly prohibited that exact action by the police—a standard that has become nearly impossible to meet.


The Institute for Justice: Brownback v. King.


You probably don’t know it, but federal agents are working closely with police where you live.

An officer accused of abusing his federal authority can claim he was actually acting using his state-law authority, and an officer accused of abusing his state-law authority can say he was really acting as a federal officer.

Task force members misidentified James as a fugitive; stopped, searched, beat and choked him into unconsciousness; and then—even after it was clear they had the wrong man—arrested James and charged his with a series of felonies to cover their tracks.

When James filed a lawsuit against the officers to hold them to account for their actions, the officers argued they were entitled to several forms of immunity and persuaded the court to throw out James’ case.

An appeals court reversed the worst parts of that decision, but the government has now taken James’ case to the U.S. Supreme Court, asking the Court to shield the officers from any accountability for violating the Constitution.


Again, this is a case of agents of the State committing crimes and not being held accountable.

Plot twist: when federal agents work together with local police, they are allowed to commit even more crimes against the citizen without any recourse.

I want to say that this case is "really crazy" but its not.

Unfortunately, this has become the norm, a part of every day life in America.

Maybe you'll be assaulted by the police, by federal agents, by agents of the State, maybe you wont. Who knows?

James thought he was being mugged because one of the plain clothes "officers" snatched his wallet out of back pocket.

Thinking he was in danger, he started to run.

In the video above, they play some excerpts from the 911 call.

A lady called the police thinking that these men were going to beat James to death.

One of the main issues here is Qualified Immunity.

Qualified Immunity Is an Unqualified Disgrace.

The Case against Qualified Immunity.

The other issue is with our "justice" system as a whole.

They charge you with a bunch of crimes then offer you a plea deal.

While they have essentially unlimited money (tax payer money) and resources, you have to use your own money to hire competent legal defense.

The government is using your own money against you.




posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 05:22 PM
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I've been on the receiving end of police brutality. You are powerless. There is no recourse. They can rape you, beat you, kill you... Doesn't matter. If anyone ever thinks of a path to fixing it other than riots, I'll devote 100% of my free time working toward that goal.

This guy is in a losing battle, unfortunately. He won't win. He'll just waste time and money, while the police make him and his more and more of a target.

ETA: Before anyone jumps on me for this, yes I know there are a lot of good officers. However, the good cops do nothing about the bad cops, so the whole system is tainted. The ones who have a chance to change things don't.
edit on 19-2-2020 by sine.nomine because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 05:26 PM
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It feels like James may have left something out of his story.



posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: gladtobehere



One of those technicalities is called “qualified immunity,” a special legal protection the Supreme Court created in the 1980s to protect government officials.

Under qualified immunity, officers can violate the Constitution unless previous court rulings have explicitly prohibited that exact action by the police—a standard that has become nearly impossible to meet.


Bolding to highlight the problem. Making laws so that people can be above the law = lawlessness.



posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 05:50 PM
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a reply to: Nickn3

Like?



posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 06:01 PM
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In fairness, if this was a black person who had been beaten he would win his case and have the national media screaming about it to anyone who would listen.



posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 06:15 PM
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originally posted by: sine.nomine
I've been on the receiving end of police brutality. You are powerless. There is no recourse. They can rape you, beat you, kill you... Doesn't matter. If anyone ever thinks of a path to fixing it other than riots, I'll devote 100% of my free time working toward that goal.

This guy is in a losing battle, unfortunately. He won't win. He'll just waste time and money, while the police make him and his more and more of a target.

ETA: Before anyone jumps on me for this, yes I know there are a lot of good officers. However, the good cops do nothing about the bad cops, so the whole system is tainted. The ones who have a chance to change things don't.




Its a also a problem here in OZ, the police are becoming increasingly aggressive, there was a recent beating of a 19 year mentally ill guy beaten almost to death by cops after someone rang cops worried he was going to hurt himself, well he didn't need to they broke bones and smashed him with batons while cuffed on the ground.

Check this crap out from the current police minister here...

The NSW Police commissioner has backed his officers' use of strip searches, saying there should be "a little bit of fear" of law enforcement.

source

Also defending police strip searching children at festivals and other venues, they have been violating 15 and 16 year old girls, is some awful awful stuff.



posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
In fairness, if this was a black person who had been beaten he would win his case and have the national media screaming about it to anyone who would listen.


He could use that as a last resort i😅f it all fails



posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 06:59 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: sine.nomine
I've been on the receiving end of police brutality. You are powerless. There is no recourse. They can rape you, beat you, kill you... Doesn't matter. If anyone ever thinks of a path to fixing it other than riots, I'll devote 100% of my free time working toward that goal.

This guy is in a losing battle, unfortunately. He won't win. He'll just waste time and money, while the police make him and his more and more of a target.

ETA: Before anyone jumps on me for this, yes I know there are a lot of good officers. However, the good cops do nothing about the bad cops, so the whole system is tainted. The ones who have a chance to change things don't.




Its a also a problem here in OZ, the police are becoming increasingly aggressive, there was a recent beating of a 19 year mentally ill guy beaten almost to death by cops after someone rang cops worried he was going to hurt himself, well he didn't need to they broke bones and smashed him with batons while cuffed on the ground.

Check this crap out from the current police minister here...

The NSW Police commissioner has backed his officers' use of strip searches, saying there should be "a little bit of fear" of law enforcement.

source

Also defending police strip searching children at festivals and other venues, they have been violating 15 and 16 year old girls, is some awful awful stuff.

Awful stuff. Police here regularly tackle, submit, taze, hell even shoot people because "they were a danger to themselves."
A lot of police will ridicule you as you're strip searched.
My local police started posting their arrests on their Facebook page calling each person they arrest losers, nobodies, and deadbeats. Innocent til proven guilty, my ass. Their reputations are tarnished.
They post their pictures and full names and charges.
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posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 07:04 PM
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Use a recording device that records DIRECTLY to the cloud.



posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus
You seem like a nice guy . In fairness man seriously . Don’t you think innocent black people ever get beaten by the cops. Trust me when I say that innocent black people get beaten by the cops everyday and you don’t hear about it . Cops just like to beat people , that’s the problem. Not what color they are .



posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: Nickn3
It feels like James may have left something out of his story.

There always is....
Nearly
Every
Single
Time

As Paul Harvey would say "And now , for the rest of the story"



posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 11:45 PM
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The good news is last week I got stopped by the cops for running a yellow light... Yes I said yellow. Myself and two cars behind and the one in front of me were all pulled over (hand signals by cops lining the side of the road..

OK I complied and one of the big boys( he had a desk sat in the grass on the side of the road) told me I was guilty of running a yellow light and that would be 400 Baht fine (not quite 12 dollars) !!

"400 Baht why so expensive" as I grabbed my chest in a mocking way of wanting to grab and tear my heart out..

"OK for you 200 baht."

I pulled the 200 out and told him he did not have to do the paperwork... The 200 disappeared into his pants pocket and we parted ways all smiles and a thank you.

I used to shoot with DEA and a few cops at a gun range (USA) I frequented. In my humble opinion 90 to 95 % (or higher) of the guys and girls were decent honorable people and were not looking to start a fight or shake someone down.. The roid (steroid) cops who seemed to spend their lives getting bulked up to fight...well... you never knew what would set them off on some tirade... a jammed gun or a missed target and whalla instant idiots.

A golfing friend was a retired detective and even he said we have some guys now who should never see a badge much less a gun in their hands.

Like another poster said when you make laws so corrupt crooks are above the law then what kind of system of justice is that ?



posted on Feb, 20 2020 @ 09:13 AM
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This right here is a two-part issue.

Number one, the issue of qualified immunity.

Number two, the police in Grand Rapids, MI and surrounding area.

This is far from the first instance of Grand Rapids police violating rights and being total scumbags, definitely won't be the last.



posted on Feb, 20 2020 @ 11:05 AM
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As long as the thin blue line exists nothing will change. America asked for this, and now they are getting it. Freedom for safety is never a good bargain.



posted on Feb, 20 2020 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: Nickn3

Can you tell us all know what a boot tastes like? It seems like you have a lot of experience licking them.

This incident occurred in 2016 and the only defense the police have is to argue technicalities. I feel like if James actually did anything wrong the police's lawyers would've argued that four years ago.



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 06:52 AM
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I think it comes down to, did the police show and Id first?

Did the cop actually go and grab this guys wallet?

If he refused in anyway, these guys are trained to pounce.

After you see a colleague get stabbed in resisting situations, you tend to act more aggressive the next time so you don't get stabbed.



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 06:57 AM
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a reply to: Bloodworth

If the police even had the slightest justification for their actions, why has that not been their defense for the past four years? Instead they are arguing a technicality.



posted on Feb, 21 2020 @ 08:03 AM
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So far we only hear one side of the story presented in the OP. From how it’s presented it’s cut and dry and the officers need to be made accountable for their actions.

Things aren’t always cut and dry though.


a reply to: gladtobehere




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