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Second Amendment supporters are pushing back

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posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 07:05 PM
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I am NOT promoting the NRA, the GOA nor any other Organization.
The National Rifle Association has been compromising since their founding in November 1871
I will however give them credit for their training programs across the country, Hunter Safety, Gun Safety and prolific number of Ranges where said training may be obtained.
Gun Owners of America have been supporting and promoting the Nationwide 2A Sanctuary movement as a show of solidarity stating No More Compromise.
This is not a Democrat vs. Republican issue, there are many democrats that support the second amendment and republicans who don't. This is also not only about Guns.
Practically speaking we have more Guns and Bows in the U.S. than people, attempting to disarm law abiding citizens would be the shortest rout to civil war.



With or without the Constitution, we have the right to defend ourselves and the ones we love.
The correct question isn’t why do we want to own guns, but why would anyone want to try to take them away?

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That being said, statistically the stricter the gun control laws in a given area the more crime that occurs in that area.

My point is that the quickest rout to a reduction in crime levels, especially gun crimes, is training. If you own any weapon it is your responsibility to learn to handle it proficiently and safely.
Traditionally this training has been a family thing, fathers teaching their children, but for many years it was also done by the public schools and the Boy Scouts, usually combining Gun Safety, Marksmanship training, and Hunter Safety into a series of classes in the shooting sports with competitions between schools common across the country until the 1950's and 60's. Rifle and Handgun Target shooting, Shotgun Trap, and Skeet shooting, Archery Target, Field, and Flight shooting are all still very popular sports today with Olympic level competitions Worldwide.

Due to the push against the second amendment over the past decade some organizations and school districts are now pushing back by resurrecting these training programs.

New law allows Illinois schools to teach hunting classes


In many states these classes are already Mandatory to obtain a hunting license.

Iowa School District Adds Hunters ED to PE


thehuntingnews.com...


Hundreds of Girl Scouts learning gun safety, marksmanship


mercedcountytimes.com... BP9Afc


In my humble opinion Training is the best practical answer because the people of the United States will not and cannot be easily, peacefully nor lawfully disarmed. This cannot be implemented on a Federal Level as it is a Local decision at the County Level and possibly at the State level.

Thank you for your time and consideration.



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posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 07:13 PM
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Of course training is the most important aspect of gun ownership/usage.

With training you learn to respect the tool, not fear it.

I was brought up with guns of all sorts. From .22's to fully automatic machine guns. I fear none of them. It's the person behind the gun that one should fear/respect.



posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 07:30 PM
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Here in Wisconsin we have the Firearms safety training program for youth and first time firearm hunters.

You must obtain this to legally purchase a hunting license, or be grandfathered in by D.O.B. prior to 1977 , -or- be certified proficient by Military service and or Police training/certs.

It also qualifies as safety training for CCW licensing requirements.

I took it as a kid, As I was 4 years older than the grandfathered in date at the time.

But , living in Wisconsin with a new liberal governor, things are not looking promising.

And with this progressive leadership being pushed, I believe it's only a matter of time before we see a situation just like Virginia right here.


Hopefully I'm wrong, but it looks like a bunch of Democrat run states are all trying to push separate firearms bills .

I believe they are doing this so they can "adopt an agreement between states to unionize a 2nd amendment attack.

Once again, Hopefully I'll be proven wrong.



posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 07:43 PM
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Where I went to high school C.O.R.E. was mandatory as well as outdoor survival. Core is Conservation Outdoor Recreation Education. With that came a hunter number and if you wanted you could get a hunting license. Long gun and shotgun training was included. We are talking about a mandatory course to graduate. Those were the days. a reply to: RedmoonMWC



posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 07:50 PM
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Unfortunately the people who most need to be told these things are too closed-minded to listen.



posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: RedmoonMWC

Well, besides a few Republican RINOs who take 500K donations from Bloomberg, I see very few Republicans pushing gun control.

www.nraila.org...




On Monday, 1/13/20, it happened again. Senate President Bill Galvano picked a fight with Floridians who believe in the constitutional Right to Keep and Bear Arms. It is well known -- even by the media -- that in 2018 Bill Galvano orchestrated the creation and passage of the "Parkland Gun Control Bill."

So now, he's back for more gun control and it appears likely that Bloomberg's $500,000.00 "donation" to Senate President Bill Galvano is behind yet another Galvano gun control bill. -- SB-7028




Now, just about every anti-2nd amendment bills are proposed by who again?


Here is where all the Democrat Candidates stand on gun control.... hint, all are anti-2nd amendment.

abcnews.go.com...


So yeah, it pretty much is a Democrat issue with a few exceptions of RINOs being bribed by Democrats....



posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 07:55 PM
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The thing that really hurts, is with more training you can cut down on the number of kids that mishandle a firearm and hurt/kill themselves or another in an accident.

ETA: yet some members of the left will still rail against anything positive with guns, and claim its for the children and overlook the benefits of teaching gun safety to kids. I got my first gun when I was 8, and gun safety was the number 1 lesson for probably 2 years every time I was allowed to touch the gun I had to recite the rules and explain what I was touching and what it could do.

Never ever "played" with a gun, cause I understood what it was and what it could do.
edit on 18-2-2020 by Irishhaf because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: RedmoonMWC

Good.

Shall not be infringed.

Anyone against it is anti-Constitutional.

Anti-American.

Probably a damned commie.



posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 08:02 PM
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a reply to: RedmoonMWC

We had a shooting range at my Highschool in Houston, Texas.

Most pickup trucks had gun racks in the back, with guns stacked, parked daily in the school lot.

Gun safety and respect was what one was taught at HOME at an early age, I tought my boys the same.

We had no school shootings.

Creating laws is not how to handle this issue head-on, rather creating laws allows an assignation of blame, all of this appears to focus on "other than learning at home"...schools don't educate anymore. Schools indoctrinate and 'raise kids' which has been the bane of the US for 40 years+ on almost all topics.

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posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 09:01 PM
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a reply to: RedmoonMWC

My 9 year old daughter has already had gun safety and range days.

She cant get her license till 11, but she will start Upland birds with me as an observer this year,, not deer or Elk though. Sh wants to start a falconry apprenticeship!

I think that is key to this discussion. Firearms and bows are tools and culturally endearing as much as they are a hurdle to tyranny.

The age old cultural bond, fostered through hunting should be celebrated and shred with those who only see fear associated with firearms.



posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 09:27 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: RedmoonMWC

Good.

Shall not be infringed.

Anyone against it is anti-Constitutional.

Anti-American.

Probably a damned commie.


Are you suggesting that Communists are unarmed?



posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 09:29 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut
Lol
Communist citizens are
The governments not so much



posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 09:38 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

Agreed where Politicians are concerned.
When I referred to this is not being a Democrat vs. Republican issue I was talking about the average citizen.
There are many democrats that support the second amendment and will vote against Democrat politicians that propose anti-2nd amendment bills.



posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 09:45 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

Sound like we had a similar upbringing. I grew up with guns and hunting as an integral part of life.
We ate what we killed, It was never about trophies.



posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 09:46 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut
Lol
Communist citizens are
The governments not so much


Haven't you seen those crazy Russian gun nuts like FPS Russia on YouTube?



posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 09:56 PM
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a reply to: missed_gear

I'm not advocating the creation of more laws. There are quite enough of those already on the books.
I am advocating that Townships, school districts, and counties should decide for themselves. If an inner-city school district wants to do this, let them, if not, then let them leave it alone. The same applies to any rural school district.
Personally I would like to see these training programs available all across the country.

edit on 18-2-2020 by RedmoonMWC because: To add: Personally I would like to see these training programs available all across the country.



posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 12:00 AM
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Just a footnote, but you mentioned bows....

Everywhere that guns are banned, they immediately go after archery hunting and bows next.

I met a couple of archers from Europe who came to America to to hunt. They had literally saved for years, and went home with a lone spike buck between them. They couldn't believe how welcomed they were. Most people were overcome with pity for them, and were like, "Let's find you boys someplace you can take a buck..."

They said that in some parts of Europe it is illegal to practice with a bow outdoors, unless its on a fully licensed range. You can't do anything with a bow but own it in secret and shoot it at an archery range.

I was like, "are you really going to get back on the plane, to go back there???"



posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 12:01 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut
Lol
Communist citizens are
The governments not so much


If the citizens were armed
The government couldn’t be communist



posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 12:33 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut
Russia has not been Communist for like thirty years. Now do tell, do the citizens in China, North Korea, or Cuba have the right to firearms ownership?? Or to even criticize their government???



posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 07:14 AM
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Well, happily, I just saw on the news last night, that two county's near me are trying to become 2A sanctuary's. I'm really hoping that spreads more across MI.

We are already pretty gun friendly, in MOST areas.



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