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'Bush Ordered Attack on Italian secret agent'

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posted on Mar, 10 2005 @ 07:31 AM
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www.vialls.com...

Now c'mon this is just silly isn't it????...




posted on Mar, 10 2005 @ 07:49 AM
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I heard Bush was one of the shooters. Really.


I dont know what to believe anymore concerning Bush. Did he order it? Probabaly not, but I wouldnt be suprised if we found out sometime that he did.



posted on Mar, 10 2005 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by Hunting Veritas
Now c'mon this is just silly isn't it????...

Yep. Silly. But of course it fits in the vogue of the world
mindset today ... blame Bush for everything, blame the
USA for everything.... make up a story that blames them
and sue for millions. That'll probably be next with this.



posted on Mar, 10 2005 @ 08:05 AM
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No. I don't think we blame bush for everything c'mon now i'm sure he's done some good.............................hmmmmm. Nope.

How can you call yourself a proud american yet MOST of your history is based upon a lie???

I'm not trying to be anti-american as I believe everyone has there own beliefs and opinions, I just opose the ones that don't believe the facts of science or these people can be called 'Ignorant to facts' or better yet 'Stupid'.



posted on Mar, 10 2005 @ 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by Hunting Veritas
No. I don't think we blame bush for everything c'mon now i'm sure he's done some good.............................hmmmmm. Nope.

How can you call yourself a proud american yet MOST of your history is based upon a lie???

I'm not trying to be anti-american as I believe everyone has there own beliefs and opinions, I just opose the ones that don't believe the facts of science or these people can be called 'Ignorant to facts' or better yet 'Stupid'.


Um, who are these people you are reffering to?



posted on Mar, 10 2005 @ 08:30 AM
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I really doubt Bush gave the order. I think it's more likley that John Negroponte gave the order to kill anyone on that road as he was scheduled to pass through that area that night.


wjla

"The mobile patrol was there to enhance security because Ambassador Negroponte was expected through," U.S. Embassy spokesman Robert Callahan said, confirming reports in Italian media. The newspaper La Repubblica reported Wednesday that the checkpoint had been "set up to protect the passage of Ambassador Negroponte."


Based on his past actions, link, I'd say he has no problems giving orders to kill people.



posted on Mar, 10 2005 @ 09:56 AM
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I can't belive i'm about to type this- but here goes nothing...

i think it's a little brash to directly blame Bush for this.

To say Bush ordered this would imply he's actually running the show in DC...



posted on Mar, 10 2005 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by Hunting Veritas
How can you call yourself a proud american yet MOST of your history is based upon a lie???

I'm not trying to be anti-american ... I just opose the ones that don't
believe the facts of science or these people can be called 'Ignorant to
facts' or better yet 'Stupid'.


Right back atchya'


MOST of America's history is a lie? Yeah, right.
You wish.
Not trying to be anti-American? Well ... you are.

You oppose those who don't believe the 'facts' and call them stupid?
I guess that would go right back atchya' then.


G.W. has done nothing good? Tell that to the Afghanis who are now
free of the Taliban. The women who can now go to school and who
can leave the home and go to the doctor without fear of being beaten.
Tell that garbage to the good people of Iraq who are now free and
who are VERY happy to be free. Their blogs on the internet say so.
They danced in the streets with joy, holding American flags and
stomping on the statues and portraits of Saddam.

Best be careful of throwing the word stupid around ...

It'll come back to haunt you.


www.state.gov...
www.whitehouse.gov...
www.doi.gov...

And a very good link -
www.graftongop.org...



[edit on 3/10/2005 by FlyersFan]



posted on Mar, 10 2005 @ 10:05 AM
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I don't think that Bush would want to order something that would generate bad press in the land of Berlusconi, who is a loyal supporter of the Bush regime...

It's a tense urban warfare situation there, american soldiers might goof up, shooting at the wrong car , or they might goof up NOT shooting at a car and allow a carbomber to take them out. Put yourselve in their shoes and see if you can remain cool.



[edit on 10-3-2005 by Countermeasures]



posted on Mar, 10 2005 @ 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase
I really doubt Bush gave the order. I think it's more likley that John Negroponte gave the order to kill anyone on that road as he was scheduled to pass through that area that night.


wjla

"The mobile patrol was there to enhance security because Ambassador Negroponte was expected through," U.S. Embassy spokesman Robert Callahan said, confirming reports in Italian media. The newspaper La Repubblica reported Wednesday that the checkpoint had been "set up to protect the passage of Ambassador Negroponte."


Based on his past actions, link, I'd say he has no problems giving orders to kill people.


Do you ever get tired of the lies? Gezzz............

Lets just keep trying to rewrite history. Central America isn't all part of Cuba today thanks to Regan and the CIA down there. Negroponte gets the job done, something liberals just can't stand.

If this communist italian pro-arab "@#%$#@*" is investigated then you will find "She" staged the whole thing to get millions to AID the terrorist. Pointing fingers at the US is a diversion to keep the liberal press chasing US military instead of asking real questions about the so called kidnapping..



posted on Mar, 10 2005 @ 10:36 AM
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First off, you musn't blame President Bush for every (I would even go so far as to say any) event which happens concerning the war on terrorism without the presence of evidence of logical reasoning.
I could tell you good things he was responsible for,
crackdown on terrorism worldwide
bad things he was responsible for,
WMD presence claim in Iraq
good things he was not responsible for,
The institution of democracy in India
and bad things he was not responsible for.
fires in clubs killing thousands every year

Now, as for the issue at hand.
as an earlier post stated:

posted by wjla
The mobile patrol was there to enhance security because Ambassador Negroponte was expected through," U.S. Embassy spokesman Robert Callahan said, confirming reports in Italian media. The newspaper La Repubblica reported Wednesday that the checkpoint had been "set up to protect the passage of Ambassador Negroponte."


The security forces were there to protect Ambassador Negroponte.




Gianfranco Fini ruled out suggestions that U.S. forces might have deliberately targeted the Italians, but he told parliament Tuesday there were discrepancies between Italian and U.S. accounts.


The Italian foreign minsiter concluded two days ago the attack was not deliberate




"I think it's absurd to make any such suggestion that our men and women in uniform deliberately targeted innocent civilians. That's just absurd," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Monday.


The White House also concluded it was not deliberate

Therefore, both sides agree on the issue so there are two logical possibilities:
1.) The attack was not deliberate as both sides have concluded.
2.) This is one hell of a cover-up and I would even challenge fellow ATS members to (if they believe it necessary) investigate deep into U.S./Italian relation, and the current feeling betwen Rome and Washington. Also, look into who captured Calipari & Segrena, their backgrounds, and any information they may have obtained which would threaten the U.S.

Glad to be back,
- Tass

*second two quotes taken from www.cnn.com... *



posted on Mar, 10 2005 @ 10:46 AM
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Over 500 US servicement have been killed in Iraq in attacks by insurgents using cars as weapons, most notibly suicide car bomb attacks.

Considering that most of the soldiers stationed at these check points are:

1) mostly under 25 years of age
2) seen some of their friends killed or injured by insurgents
3) desperately trying to stay alive to go home and see their family and friends
4) mentall and physically fatigued
5) don't speak the native language

Is it any surprise that things like this do not happen with more frequency?

I'm sure there is enough blame to go around on all sides, both Italain and American, to cover a collossal F***-up like this. But in the end, it boils down to "war is hell", and in wars people, both innocent and guilty, enemy and friend, get killed. Thats why was sucks so bad.




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