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Preposterous! It Cannot Be Done! It’s Impossible!

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posted on Feb, 16 2020 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Transparent aluminum.


That’s been around for years..

en.wikipedia.org...




posted on Feb, 16 2020 @ 07:48 PM
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Lithium Ion battery technology

Why...

Please replace lithium ion/polymer batteries with something better.

Science, where you at on this one?
We need better energy density and general usage capability. We're dying here for better batteries, in multiple fields.



posted on Feb, 16 2020 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: Blue Shift
The idea of the OP isn't to suggest we spend our time and resources in fantasy land with no foundation to build on, but rather to push the boundaries of our present sciences instead of allowing consensus to stagnate the waters.



posted on Feb, 16 2020 @ 09:22 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman


So you really think we will find something with enough energy to play Star Trek? Maybe a time machine? Deny reality for science fiction? There is a line, don’t know what it is

Good questions Raggedy. I don't know the answers, but I think if our civilization has not collapsed, 100 years from now our sciences will be so much further along than they are today, that many of our presently perceived limitations will seem antiquated by the people of that time, though I think it likely at least some of those limitations may linger on indefinitely.



posted on Feb, 16 2020 @ 09:33 PM
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Can you imagine the possibilities of say quantum computing to double our knowledge daily?

We are all doom and gloom but what if we made food that was based on the gloop in the film Matrix (ie chemicals that we needed) and made it taste like anything we wanted (curry, fish and chips, steak) and we alleviated all food shortages?

We were 100% renewable energy.

Health. Care made us live forever

We emigrated to other planets not continents!

That is the future



posted on Feb, 16 2020 @ 11:42 PM
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a reply to: Klassified

I’m old enough to remember when, “Future Shock”, by Alvin Toffler
first came out in 1970. Also Adam Osborne was talking about the singularity
way before Ray Kirtzweil. To me it seems like the egregore or zeitgeist
of the seventies was more upbeat and everyone was encouraged to do
Thier own thing. My how things change. After 911 everything became
more authoritarian and less innovative as we relied more on corporations
and seat of the pants innovators found it hard to compete with the
the establishment and its patents.Even small businesses became defined as
Being worth over five million dollars.
My grandfather was wealthy, but used an outhouse and he didn’t
have AC. In the seventies everyone was amazed with the Apollo mission
and were hopeful. Science is based largely on measurements;but, the
data is only as good as the measuring devices. Who knows what we will
find when the Higgs Boson is found. Maybe we’ll even discover Quantum
Consciousness is real? With the singularity approaching, I’d like to see
Isaac Asimov’s 3 laws for robots be implemented.
First Law
A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
Second Law
A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
Third Law
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.[1]

Just in case the technology is not too expensive for the average guys and the elite don’t
get an even more attitude and privilege



posted on Feb, 17 2020 @ 12:03 AM
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originally posted by: Archivalist
Lithium Ion battery technology

Why...

Please replace lithium ion/polymer batteries with something better.

Science, where you at on this one?
We need better energy density and general usage capability. We're dying here for better batteries, in multiple fields.


We now have lithium-titanate battery that can be recharged 8000 to 20000 times.
en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Feb, 17 2020 @ 12:50 AM
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a reply to: davido

How do people like you consistently miss that even in the Asimov story the 3 laws backfired?

It's a kinda important part of the story...



posted on Feb, 17 2020 @ 01:45 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Blue Shift

Just eluding to the line between science fiction and real possibility
Time travel, worm holes, warp drives, imaginations or achievables?


There are fundamentals. No two of the exact same thing can exist simultaneously in the same point in spacetime. Not counting alternate dimensions. Whatever they are.


edit on 17-2-2020 by Blue Shift because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 17 2020 @ 02:21 AM
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a reply to: roguetechie

Maybe because I read the short story in the first grade
and that was over 50 years ago? I mainly remembered
Something about them, but my memory is
not perfect. The point is that even Stephen Hawking
warned of AI taking over.

Generally when someone asks ‘why’ it infers that they
disapprove. And when they question the way someone
thinks, then this is classic invalidation.
What kind of person has a need to one-up
another in the first place? Do you think I care what you
think about what I think. Life’s too short.
lighten up, it’s not that important.
Thanks for reading though
Peace
edit on 17-2-2020 by davido because: Reworded sentences



posted on Feb, 17 2020 @ 03:54 AM
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a reply to: Blue Shift

You assume
Or
You assume I am going to accept your opinion based on my knowledge of your opinion?



posted on Feb, 17 2020 @ 07:09 AM
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originally posted by: ntech
a reply to: schuyler

Don't forget the flip side of that argument too. Today's devices use less power than before. Incandescent lights giving way to LEDs and other power saving improvements too. Flat screens replacing picture tubes and such. When wind/solar becomes a practicable way to power a house it will also be because the load needing the power will be much smaller by then.

I just don't see a way around powering AC, water heaters, refrigerators, and furnaces though. But improvements are being made there too.


I was thinking along these lines as well. OK, the "efficiency of silicone solar cells is mostly maxed out", so what? We power a good percentage of the power grid on burning coal, how efficient is that?

The solar to AC power conversion doesn't have to be super efficient if there is an overall system designed to cover the load with a reasonable amount of efficiency. I also agree that the average family's load on the grid is shrinking over time.

Just because solar cells and battery storage isn't up to the level it needs to be in many cases, doesn't mean it is impractical as a means to generate electricity in a number of situations.



posted on Feb, 17 2020 @ 08:32 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22



Not really.
The efficiency of silicone solar cells is mostly maxed out.
Thats why I said in my first post that new discoveries in physics and chemistry are The next step.


Solar is absolutely not maxed out. I work in the industry and while I cannot speak on behalf of silicon panels, there are other materials that solar panels are made out of as well. Our efficiency goes up every year.

I will not say what materials the company I work for uses, but I do know that there is a HUGE efficiency gain using a nano coating of graphene. This is $$$ at the moment to manufacture, but as with all things, I'm sure the cost will go down as the years go on.



posted on Feb, 17 2020 @ 08:53 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Klassified

That's good stuff!

I find it truly fascinating what some people believe is and isn't possible.

It does bother me when I see something being pushed as the future when it is at its physical limit already... Like solar panels and chemical batteries.

Discovery in physics and chemistry are where the future must be found.


You are being ridiculous if you really believe better solar panels and batteries will not be developed. In fact just look at the last 20 years and the constant improvement of both to see how silly your statement is.

There are solar panels capable of greater than 40% efficiency already, they just require exotic materials that make them too expensive currently. Nanotech will improve the efficiency of silicon based panels significantly.

I will agree that solar is not the answer for all power generation, that is nuclear most likely fusion.



posted on Feb, 17 2020 @ 09:03 AM
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originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck

originally posted by: ntech
a reply to: schuyler

Don't forget the flip side of that argument too. Today's devices use less power than before. Incandescent lights giving way to LEDs and other power saving improvements too. Flat screens replacing picture tubes and such. When wind/solar becomes a practicable way to power a house it will also be because the load needing the power will be much smaller by then.

I just don't see a way around powering AC, water heaters, refrigerators, and furnaces though. But improvements are being made there too.


I was thinking along these lines as well. OK, the "efficiency of silicone solar cells is mostly maxed out", so what? We power a good percentage of the power grid on burning coal, how efficient is that?

The solar to AC power conversion doesn't have to be super efficient if there is an overall system designed to cover the load with a reasonable amount of efficiency. I also agree that the average family's load on the grid is shrinking over time.

Just because solar cells and battery storage isn't up to the level it needs to be in many cases, doesn't mean it is impractical as a means to generate electricity in a number of situations.


It is impractical for all power generation. There is not enough materials for batteries on the planet if all power was generated by solar.

Not to mention - you are not thinking about the waste in the creation of the panels, and their disposal after 20-25 years. Solar is far from a good environmental solution. 3rd and 4th gen nuclear is far superior, and there have many developments in fusion that suggest it will exist in the near future.



posted on Feb, 17 2020 @ 12:27 PM
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a reply to: Klassified

I’m excited about the prospects of the animal
Olympics after genetic engineering takes
a foothold. Can’t wait to see the Orangutan
Football throwing contest. At present they are 8
Times stronger than humans. If Lamar Jackson

really threw a hundred yard pass, just imagine
what an oranganutan could do?
CEO’s around the planet be like, “Who’s got a monkey
on that race?” That and owls giving legal advice.

Pardon the sarcasm, taking away the moments
that make up a dull day.
Cheerio.



posted on Feb, 17 2020 @ 05:58 PM
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What’s you’re point? If you govern your actions biased on what other people think you’re only furthering them not yourself... I never paid what other people think much mind myself.

a reply to: Klassified



posted on Feb, 18 2020 @ 12:48 AM
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originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck

originally posted by: ntech
a reply to: schuyler

Don't forget the flip side of that argument too. Today's devices use less power than before. Incandescent lights giving way to LEDs and other power saving improvements too. Flat screens replacing picture tubes and such. When wind/solar becomes a practicable way to power a house it will also be because the load needing the power will be much smaller by then.

I just don't see a way around powering AC, water heaters, refrigerators, and furnaces though. But improvements are being made there too.


I was thinking along these lines as well. OK, the "efficiency of silicone solar cells is mostly maxed out", so what? We power a good percentage of the power grid on burning coal, how efficient is that?

The solar to AC power conversion doesn't have to be super efficient if there is an overall system designed to cover the load with a reasonable amount of efficiency. I also agree that the average family's load on the grid is shrinking over time.

Just because solar cells and battery storage isn't up to the level it needs to be in many cases, doesn't mean it is impractical as a means to generate electricity in a number of situations.


It is impractical for all power generation. There is not enough materials for batteries on the planet if all power was generated by solar.

Not to mention - you are not thinking about the waste in the creation of the panels, and their disposal after 20-25 years. Solar is far from a good environmental solution. 3rd and 4th gen nuclear is far superior, and there have many developments in fusion that suggest it will exist in the near future.


I wasn't suggesting that solar panel systems are practical for all energy uses. Also, I disagree that solar power systems are impractical for all applications as you stated. In addition, I never mentioned the waste created by any means of generating electricity, that wasn't an issue in the point I was trying to make that seems to be lost on you.



posted on Feb, 19 2020 @ 02:26 AM
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posted on Feb, 20 2020 @ 12:57 AM
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The driving force behind modern science is money and profit. Without them nothing advances beyond the theoretical.

I'm sure there are many technologies suppressed by these chains.



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