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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: carewemust
Why is Brennan still not charged?
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Boadicea
I've seen/read the interview, and the thread you referenced. William Barr didn't say anything when President Trump decried the Mueller Investigation as a corrupt witch-hunt..at least 100 times...on Twitter and during press conferences. Barr was Mueller's boss. A slap at Mueller was an indirect slap at Sessions first, and Barr after he took over the DOJ.
originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: randomtangentsrme
Let me try to break this down, I tried to on my op
What are the chances barr is actually investigating corruption?
I’d put it at 10 percent given comey Brennan etc walk free
But pick your own number
Now the potential downside you are concerned about is judicial independence
Do you think trumps tweet influenced Barr’s decision? Probably not, neither do I
So it’s not that you are worried about judicial independence, it’s that you are worried the Dems will claim this interferes with it
I would say there is a 99.9999 percent chance the Dems were going to say that regardless of whether or not trump tweeted
Now the down side of trump not tweeting is if barr is not investigating corruption, then all of trumps allies asking him not to tweet are saying the American people should basically be kept in the dark about corruption because barr will solve it all
Now I j ow, the republicans or the media could discuss this corruption with the American people , but they don’t in an effective way, as we have seen
So now we come to the point where we tell trump to stop informing the American people about about corruption (a huge loss) based on the .00001 percent chance his tweets could influence the Dems to accuse barr of not being independent when they otherwise wouldn’t have
originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: carewemust
Yep
Barr is right now recommending prison sentence to stone, a trump ally, for lying to Congress
Yet despite the fact I can prove definitively all of these intel people lied to Congress , Barr declines to even charge any of them
Clapper, Brennan, comey, McCabe
So if barr is really about draining the swamp, why go after only trump people?
originally posted by: Grambler
Its late, im grouchy, lets do a thread
Bill Barr wants trump to stop tweeting about the blatant corruption from the deep state.
Ok, I can see his point. Maybe Barr is doing a great job, and trump in his ear and the american peoples hinders that.
But what if thats not what is going on?
What if, and this may blow your mind, Barr isnt doing anything of significance? What if he is convincing trump he is draining the swamp, but hasnt done anything?
Now you may say that we should do what we do anytime we want to figure out what the truth is, look at the facts before us.
Ok, lets look at some facts.
We know the IG recommended prosecuting comey, Barr declined
We know epstien didnt kill himself and their needs to be an investigation into if some elite murdered him to prevent his crimes with them being outed; barr disagrees
We know that at the very least it is absolutely undisputed and viewable by anyone with access to cspan or the internet that James clapper lied to congress blatantly twice (Comey, brennan did as well, but lets focus on one). And yet despite the fact even a fat no connected rube like me could easily see this, barr has refused to prosecute, even though he recommends Stone face prison time for lying to congress.
Why should I, or trump have faith in Barr given these facts?
Now lets look at some more facts. Trump was spied on, harassed, impeached, had his entire life an families lives be turned upside down, investigated his whole presidency, smeared as a rapist, nazi, racist Putin stooge almost constantly on the media, been leaked against, been publicly rebuked by the exact same intel officials that engaged in all of this illegal behavior against him, and all of this is still ongoing despite the evidence of corruption being totally in the open.
And yet neither of trumps ag's charged anyone of consequence with a crime.
Do you think he has the right to be angry?
We know the media doesnt report to the american people this corruption almost at all. We know the republicans do a terrible job of informing the american people; heck when nunes tried to , the republican controlled congress launched an ethics investigation into him.
We know the republicans and people like Barr or other officials have told trump over and over to not tell the public about the corruption, that he didnt need to get involved, theyd take care of it, and despite that, not one person of significance has been charged.
We know that q followers and others said that if trump was just quiet his team would start to hold the coup conspirators to justice, and this would wake up the normal americans and republicans would win in a landslide in 2018, and that didnt happen.
So if you are Barr, do you really blame trump for tweeting that the obvious corrupt sentence and trial of stone was a farce?
Maybe barr is the one who needs to shut up and do his job.
Hey Barr, if you read this, email me. Ill give you an open and shut case Brennan lied to congress in about ten minutes, you can start there.
Maybe all the republicans, trump media people, q followers, and other patriots today that criticized trump for telling the american people about the corruption in the stone case need to ask themselves how theyll feel in their faith in barr is wrong.
I dont know, maybe barr is a great guy, maybe he is getting everything together before he locks all the criminals up, but i havent seen any evidence of that.
But if he is someone really interested in outing corruption, he should appreciate people like me, and Trump, that are publicly calling out this corruption, and explain to the ameircan people why public congressional liars like brennan are allowed to walk free years after their lies.
Or maybe he should just shut up and do his job
If Barr is avoiding Deep State prosecution, then he would be against Trump (at least in private), and he would be stonewalling anything Trump is trying to accomplish. But Barr has announced that Guiliani will be presenting his information to the DoJ through Barr.
The Justice Department “has the obligation to have an open door to anybody who wishes to provide us information that they think is relevant,” Mr. Barr said at an unrelated news conference.
“As I did say to Senator Graham, we have to be very careful with respect to any information coming from the Ukraine,” Mr. Barr said on Monday. “There are a lot of agendas in the Ukraine, a lot of crosscurrents. And we can’t take anything we received from Ukraine at face value.”