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Corona Virus Updates Part 3

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posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: deviant300
a reply to: misfit312

Seems like the new advise from Public Health England are now asking those who could be at risk should self-isolate for 14 days and keep a eye out for changes in their symptoms rather being taken to an isolation unit for suspected infections.

I suppose this could be to ensure NHS services are not stretched. I think it's wise thing but with more suspected cases in a group of over a hundred I'm starting to think would anyone really heed the advice to isolate themselves or just go about their day potentially infecting others should they be asymptomatically carrying it around.


The spread in the UK would at this point would not be contained if not already.


I guess I don't understand the concept of "self-isolate". How is that supposed to work? Unless someone lives alone, there will be other family members at risk. And quite likely, those other family members would likely go about their day like normal, wouldn't they? So if the original person is asymptomatically infectious, it isn't really going to do much good since those other family members are not being quarantined and are unknowingly making the situation worse.

Heck, if I were a suspected victim, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be possibly infecting my wife by exposing her to a pathogen for 14 days. Or would I be expected to put myself into a large zip-loc bag for the duration?

In the case of a person living alone, how many people are going to have everything they need at home in order to survive for 14 days without needed to go out to get something? If someone were presented with the choice of starving to death, or running out to get groceries, what would most people do?

Honestly, I don't think any governments are taking "quarantine" seriously. Either that, or they just don't really know what the word means. Are they all going to change into using China's CCP methodology when they realize that they have done too little too late? Enforced home quarantine with SOS orders for those who violate it?




posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: Adphil28
a reply to: ketsuko

Kinda hard to mess it up to be honest ( don’t get me wrong I know people make more mistakes when tired / exhausted etc ) but it’s a critical test and of like life saving importance , tbh it’s just not something you make mistakes with, collecting the swab sample you generally know if you’ve done it right the person will urge like there gonna throw up when you swab the back of the nasal cavity ( if they don’t you didn’t do it right or far enough!), but if your that tired as a first care person you know to ask another nurse to do something for you, not make mistakes and hide it!)


That's it. Not getting tested. Nope nope nope nope



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:26 PM
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I'm just thinking outloud here so the thought may not be very clear. If you are over a country that has a super infectious and deadly disease what would you do to limit the spread? First, limit the population movement within the country which China has done. Second, stop the ability of the population to move into or outside the country which China has not done. It is the other countries that have stop the movement of people in China from coming into their country. Why didnt China shut down their borders? Why don't they care if people can come into or leave the country? I don't have an answer.



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:27 PM
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To those saying it wont spread from China because it hasn't yet. Could you please provide some links and not just endless speculation?

Why(and if) it hasn't spread yet is debatable, interesting topic, but not really the point. We have multiple highly reputable sources stating it's highly likely that the virus will spread.

These links are not David Icke or something. Again, they are the worlds top experts. This is not doom porn, it is a legitamate concern, logical and sensible to be aware of the situation.

Preparing is a no-brainer.


'It's Coming': CDC Director Warns Coronavirus To Become Widespread Throughout United States, 'Probably Beyond 2020'

The extremely virulent coronavirus which is sweeping through China's Hubei province like wildfire will eventually gain a foothold in the United States - becoming a 'community virus' this year or next, according to CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield.

www.zerohedge.com...


“There’s likely to be a period of widespread transmission in the U.S., and I hope we will avert the kind of chaos that some other places are seeing.”
news.harvard.edu...


It has spread to other places where it's the beginning of the outbreak," Dale Fisher, head of the Global Outbreak Alert and Response Network, co-ordinated by the WHO, said in an interview from Singapore.
www.cbc.ca...


“It is not a matter of if—it is a matter of when,” said Amesh Adalja, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins University Center for Health Security and a spokesman for the Infectious Diseases Society of America. “There is not a doubt this is going to end up in most countries eventually.”
www.bloomberg.com...


“You can’t board up a germ. A novel infection will spread,” said Lawrence O. Gostin, a law professor at Georgetown University and director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It will get out; it always does.”
www.nytimes.com...
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posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:29 PM
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a reply to: Argen

Collecting sputum for test is worse , that’s like watching someone cough up a lung , not sure which I’d prefer tbh (not even going into that one
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posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:30 PM
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originally posted by: Adphil28
a reply to: Argen

Collecting sputum for test is worse , that’s like watching someone cough up a lung , not sure which I’d prefer tbh (not even going into that one
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You had and go bring up sputum and give me flashbacks hahahaha



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:32 PM
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a reply to: Argen

Think of it like the context of getting a prosate check, no man wants that either but (was gonna say s@ happens :cryb
well you know how that goes and sooner or later it has to get checked!, what would you rather ?, know and prevent it killing you or a few mins discomfort?



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: MaverickLRD

Sorry



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: Cmajlz

Other countries are not doing a good enough job, that's the sad truth
We've been led to believe China doesn't care about it's people
i know horrible things have happened that are outrageous
i don't care if i get flamed
this sickness is leaching into our societies and they are not even testing for it
i't's clear to me western nations care more about the stability of the markets than the people who work in it

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posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: MaverickLRD

Truth is the human body is fairly disgusting !,
I don’t think half the people even know just how bad things can be or smell, ( it’s the smells that get me tbh)
I personally think health staff deserve the money they earn if not more but most have no idea , probably better leave it at that before skin conditions come up



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:37 PM
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a reply to: all2human

When you say “other countries” are you referring to some in particular or just generally all?
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posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:38 PM
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a reply to: Cmajlz

I think sooner, than later we will learn the truth, and the “doomers” as we have been labeled by the “deniers” will have had it right. In any case, this does not keep people from getting sick. The setting of this current event should and needs to be the focus, a epidemic OCCURING in a communist country. That alone should tell us whatever truth we think we know is wrong. The scariest unknown at the moment is out of China, we are not seeing the symptoms being reported in a communist country. There is a truth, in this story, we do not know yet... I don’t know it, and I doubt any other members do. That is why we see people dealing with this in so many different ways, deniers saying it’s no big deal, doomers drawing incomplete conclusions. In any case the probability of this going away with a whimper in my opinion is not likely, something new is going to happen away from the Chinese borders that will bring to fruition the truth we are not seeing. I believe it just may be a onset of mass infection all at once..

But what do I know, after watching this current event from the begining.



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:44 PM
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It is interesting the flow of this thread from this morning to tonight. Some seem to suggest (wishful think) this virus isnt so bad or is over hyped. Of course no facts are given other then China and other countries reporting as to this opinion.

Based on all the facts I think the numbers in China are massively understated. I think my country, the US is hiding real numbers as not to cause panic simply cause its not as deadly as Ebola. (supposedly not as deadly as we really dont know yet)

In the state of Florida where I reside the govt isnt posting anything about possible infected or those being tested. They say its cause of Hippa laws but they had no problem telling us about the Zika virus a little while back.

To many clues tell me this is going to hit the world hard and judging by some post in the last 12 hours the disinformation campaign is working... for some!



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: Bicent

Tbh I disagree,( sorry) I don’t think where this happened is of any importance , it only serves to further divide us as the Hunan race from each other , anything else plays directly into that whole communist / capitalist blame game and that’s not even close to what it’s about, tbh it’s about saving people’s lives and preventing suffering , where you come from, what you believe or anything else does not matter!, until people realise that “small”(petty) things like that will always divide us and allow that to be used against us.



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:50 PM
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Vietnam, Saigon and Hanoi have closed schools. Tweet from friend’s coworker in Vietnam.

Twitter

Vietnam Insider confirms same.

VI



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:50 PM
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originally posted by: Adphil28
a reply to: Bicent

Tbh I disagree,( sorry) I don’t think where this happened is of any importance , it only serves to further divide us as the Hunan race from each other , anything else plays directly into that whole communist / capitalist blame game and that’s not even close to what it’s about, tbh it’s about saving people’s lives and preventing suffering , where you come from, what you believe or anything else does not matter!, until people realise that “small”(petty) things like that will always divide us and allow that to be used against us.

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posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: Adphil28

I wish it was that simple. But I respect your opinion...



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:55 PM
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originally posted by: sirlancelot
It is interesting the flow of this thread from this morning to tonight. Some seem to suggest (wishful think) this virus isnt so bad or is over hyped. Of course no facts are given other then China and other countries reporting as to this opinion.

Based on all the facts I think the numbers in China are massively understated. I think my country, the US is hiding real numbers as not to cause panic simply cause its not as deadly as Ebola. (supposedly not as deadly as we really dont know yet)

In the state of Florida where I reside the govt isnt posting anything about possible infected or those being tested. They say its cause of Hippa laws but they had no problem telling us about the Zika virus a little while back.

To many clues tell me this is going to hit the world hard and judging by some post in the last 12 hours the disinformation campaign is working... for some!



If you follow the Hawaiian news (which I haven't yet this morning) I'm sure you'll get the low down on how it spreads to the mainland soon. These medical privacy laws I'm not familiar with, but here in this country, we now face discrimination if people find out we have / had the CoVid-19 virus, I can see it really happening in the US also.

The virus can not be contained. So now we have to live with it.
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posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:57 PM
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a reply to: Bicent

Only changes when the people make it so imho



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: Bicent

But why is it that Chinese officials are not concerned/worried about the virus getting out of their country? There has got to be something about this virus that explains their lack of concern. Are they manipulating people in other countries by trying to get them paranoid or overreact and seeing this virus where it isn't? Take the illness out of the picture. What are the Chinese wanting to accomplish?



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