Corona Virus Updates Part 3

China 'appoints military bio weapon expert to take over secretive virus lab in Wuhan', sparking conspiracy theories that coronavirus outbreak is linked to Beijing's army

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Chen Wei, a Major General of the People's Liberation Army, was flown in to Wuhan by the central government late last month before officially taking the helm of Wuhan Institute of Virology, according to a report. The 54-year-old's designation prompted some people to speculate that the epidemic could have been spawned in the little-known lab and that the lab is run by Beijing's military.

Chen, also a leading specialist in genetic engineering vaccines in China, developed a medical spray during the SARS outbreak in 2003. The product prevented around 14,000 medical workers from contracting the virus, said another state-media report. She is also known in the country as the 'terminator of Ebola' for leading a team to create a vaccine against the fatal virus. Speaking of fighting the novel coronavirus, Chen said: 'The epidemic is like a military situation. The epicentre equals to the battlefield.'

The call her the 'terminator of Ebola'.

originally posted by: litterbaux
a reply to: 1questioner

Will a microwave kill the virus? Those masks shouldn't have any metal in them but I don't know if they would even heat up. I mean a paper plate doesn't get hot so those might not either. But maybe it would still kill living organisms?

Just a random shower thought.

Microwaves work by agitating water molecules, so you could always soak the mask then whack it in the oven.

Don't know if it would work though?

Might be worth a try.

a reply to: Oppenheimer67

Besides the virus though, economic collapse could be equally devastating, so considering some preparation is sensible, regardless of the virus

I don't think Americans realize that yet. Here in the tourist and hotel and taxi business now, well, its not like it used to be.
Streets filled with people are a thing of the past, not every where, but mostly where Asians would go in tour buses and that is a fact.

Chinese doctors say Wuhan coronavirus reinfection even deadlier Instead of creating immunity the virus can reportedly reinfect an individual and hasten fatal heart attack

The claim is made by doctors working in the Hubei Province capital that is at the center of the epidemic, which has to date infected 64,201 people and killed 1,487. One of the doctors reached out to a relative living in the United Kingdom, who then informed Taiwan News.

According to the message forwarded to Taiwan News, “It’s highly possible to get infected a second time. A few people recovered from the first time by their own immune system, but the meds they use are damaging their heart tissue, and when they get it the second time, the antibody doesn’t help but makes it worse, and they die a sudden death from heart failure.” The source also said the virus has “outsmarted all of us,” as it can hide symptoms for up to 24 days.

www.taiwannews.com.tw...

More to think about if you were cured of this virus. If you get it a second time, it could be fatal!

a reply to: musicismagic

Oh no, as an American, I know the economy is gonna take a hit, it’s already happening on the tourist service front.. The markets and the western msm, can pretend everything is great all they want but the truth, is already revealing itself..

originally posted by: primalfractal
This is a good book for a survival situation.

Where There Is No Doctor

thanks dl now
for those that dl it,

originally posted by: litterbaux
a reply to: 1questioner

Will a microwave kill the virus? Those masks shouldn't have any metal in them but I don't know if they would even heat up. I mean a paper plate doesn't get hot so those might not either. But maybe it would still kill living organisms?

Just a random shower thought.

Alcohol or bleach (diluted) would be an easy solution if you want to reuse. Both dissipate when dry. There is a sweet spot regarding alcohol, (I believe 70% isopropyl), but a good soak in either would be sufficient for my satisfaction.

a reply to: musicismagic

Well that's not very comforting! This is your first post with all caps that actually sounds very alarming! Yikes. Thanks for keeping us posted.

originally posted by: musicismagic

originally posted by: primalfractal
This is a good book for a survival situation.

Where There Is No Doctor

thanks dl now
for those that dl it, maybe use utorrent fairly fast

Careful what you post about torrents etc

Coukd grt this thread shut down in a heartbeat

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: musicismagic

originally posted by: primalfractal
This is a good book for a survival situation.

Where There Is No Doctor

thanks dl now
for those that dl it, maybe use utorrent fairly fast

Careful what you post about torrents etc

can you delete what i quoted on your thread please, didn't know about since it is free to download

Coukd grt this thread shut down in a heartbeat

Wanted to say thanks to everyone for contributing, and thanks to Agit8dChop for the thread. Really appreciate being able to share here in this troubled time. It's been helping me remain (semi haha) sane and (semi) calm while this unfolds. Sorry if anything I post upsets or disturbs anyone. Don't think there is anywhere with better info on this virus online, well done all, stay safe

originally posted by: pasiphae
a reply to: musicismagic

Well that's not very comforting! This is your first post with all caps that actually sounds very alarming! Yikes. Thanks for keeping us posted.

Thank you.

I wanted to stress the point. Because now the problem is actually in my backyard. Mentioned today I'll be on the front-lines of this and I mean literally now. Went looking for Japanese honey to buy, the old folks know about honey and guess what, all 4 stores were sold out, and I'm NOT buying Chinese honey no matter how cheap it is.
About 8 oz of Japanese honey between 22 bucks and up about 2700 yen at the store. Good stuff too

China has a history of producing faulty vaccines:

www.scmp.com... (This is a list of many different articles concerning the many vaccine scandals)


Last year a 3 yr old child died from receiving a rabies vaccine after getting scratched from the family's pet dog. The Changchung Changshen Biotech company was ordered to stop production when it found that faulty vaccines were given to children.

Private hospital was closed down after dozens of patients were given fake HPV vaccines.

Over 100 babies and toddlers were given expired polio vaccines.

A Chinese firm was fined $1.3 billion for illegal production of rabies vaccine. China's drug regulator said sampling inspections had found that some DPT vaccines produced by Changshen and rival WUHAN INSTITUTE of BIOLOGICAL products had blended different batches of vaccine fluid and used expired fluid to produce vaccines. They also falsified the production data.

The reason I posted this is because it seems the people of China are being hit the hardest with this coronavirus and dying in large numbers. We are not seeing these deaths in other countries. Could this be because China's mandatory vaccine policy gave their citizens a bad vaccine that is making the virus worse for them?

We haven't heard barely anything about children dying but that doesn't mean much. After seeing the horrifying video of the three children being placed in one body bag I think they're suppressing the news about children dying, also.

This is just one theory but I think it's worth looking into. Thank you, maker22, for first mentioning this!

a reply to: Power_Semi

Disposable masks usually have a metal strip embedded where the nose is (to press and keep the shape)
Please be sure you don’t put it in the microwave if it contains metal!

Edit: disposable masks are just that, single use disposable they are not designed to be cleaned or reused, doing so would have a high probability of actually being worse than using duct tape a sticking some paper towel to your face🤦🏽‍♂️)

edit:


the FFP3 mask from 3M is also made in the same way

London Conference issue

Health officials have contacted hundreds of people who attended a conference in London, after it emerged someone subsequently diagnosed with coronavirus had been there.

The person, who has not been identified, was at the UK Bus Summit at the QEII Conference Centre last week.

Dr Yimmy Chow from Public Health England said the delegates had been informed as a precaution.

source

originally posted by: primalfractal
a reply to: OutsideContextProblem

Couldn't find an answer to your question, but I would guess the military hasn't prepped for a pandemic since the Spanish flu.

Did find some declassified documents for the DOD pandemic plan.
www.public.navy.mil...
www.public.navy.mil...
www.marines.mil... 9-nov/

Thank you for those interesting declassified documents, it is certainly being taken seriously. I couldn’t find any evidence in my quick googling of an executive order to implement pandemic preparedness before either, but then I’m not sure where to look.

twitter.com...

The German tourist that was previously infected in La Gomera kept on testing negative in the newer tests, so he has been released from the quarantine.

wow... how low some people get??

Trying to sell T-Shirts on amazon and Ebay with mentions to the virus!

eBay removes T-shirts with coronavirus slogans including 'Wuhan city tours' but they are still available on Amazon

One £15.45 shirt on eBay said: 'I survived the Coronavirus and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.' Others on the auction site mocked the city in China at the epicentre of the outbreak with one emblazoned with 'Wuhan City Tours' and another saying: 'Just arrived from Wuhan.

originally posted by: Oppenheimer67

originally posted by: 1questioner
a reply to: Oppenheimer67


I was going to buy a couple of half-face masks. But considering sterilizing after each use, I'm reconsidering the purchase. Also, this brings to mind showering and washing clothes after being out... Disinfecting the shower and washing machine after use. Am I getting carried away?

Decontamination before entering the home is definitely worth considering. Having a plan in place avoids mistakes, disorder or panic later. What levels you go to really depends on how bad it is and how exposed you are. At this stage it could be less severe than flu, or it could kill a sizeable part of the population. Currently it could be argued that simply washing your hands is appropriate.

The other end of the scale would be very carefully stripping outside, washing in dilute bleach, then treating all your gear in a similar fashion before bring it inside. Though at that end of the scale, you would avoid all contact and ideally be going into quarantine area at home for a number of weeks before being allowed in the house proper... Extreme.

Proper half face respirators can be used much longer than disposables. The filters themselves say 6 months with 5 year shelf life. There will be a safety margin here too so could be longer. The mask itself though should be disinfected every time and the filter handled carefully since it is infected.

Besides the virus though, economic collapse could be equally devastating, so considering some preparation is sensible, regardless of the virus

If the SHTF, I have a plan for decontamination. This is really worst case stuff though, in case it has a high mortality and is highly transmissible. I have not done any trial runs on it yet, but it will be about as good as I can do.

I used to work on and off in clean rooms. Some to were to protect dust sensitive products, a couple were to protect me from chemicals. So I am fairly familiar with the gowning and degowning procedure.

First of all, I will be the only one going out, and that is only when needed. I am trying to limit it to maybe 3 times over 6 months. I have food and others stores enough for 6 months for my family.

I have Tyvec suits ready, with hoods, and booties. Booties and gloves should be duct taped to the suit around the wrists and ankles. A respirator with P100 filters, and goggles.

I purchased a fogger, and a hospital disinfectant called VitalOxide, which kills 99.999% of all bacteria and virus.

Before coming inside, I will have my wife fog me down with it from a distance of about 5ft. Making sure to get the filters on the mask, gloves, booties, etc. Wait about 2 minutes for it to work.

Remove and dispose of the gloves and booties outside. Remove the Tyvec suit outside and hang it up for another spraying later.

Clean my hands with alcohol, after removal. Come inside and disrobe in the laundry room, putting cloths in the washer right away. Get a shower and change.

Put on a new pair of gloves, and the respirator, take the fogger out to the car, and fog the inside of the car, especially the steering wheel.

I will also give the Tyvec suit another spritz, just to make sure.

Clean the fogger with wipes, remove and dispose of gloves, sanitize on hands again. Remove mask.

That about covers it. About the best that can be done in a home environment anyway.

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
Bloody el... this thread is moving fast and already upto page 16 since i left the other thread last night.

Anyway an update of possible case at Heathrow. England.

Passenger with suspected coronavirus lands at Heathrow

news.sky.com...

A passenger with suspected coronavirus was on board a flight from San Francisco which landed at Heathrow this morning. Other passengers on United Airlines Flight 901 have told Sky News the captain told them to stay in their seats after landing because someone had been "taken ill".

he passenger was taken to the back of the plane but Mr West said the cabin crew were not wearing any protective clothing, including face masks. He said everyone was told to fill in a Health England contact form and then after 20-25 minutes they were allowed to disembark.

So, if this is nother case, all passengers on that plane will have to self-isolate but fist they have to get home and tha means using transport!

There's actually 8 (EIGHT) planes grounded at present at Heathrow not 1