It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Why Does Candidate BERNIE SANDERS Attract So Many Violent Staffers and Supporters?

page: 8
23
<< 5  6  7    9 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 03:06 PM
link   

originally posted by: Sublimecraft

originally posted by: chr0naut

And the Alt-Right movement is a recent American phenomenon. There was no alt-right in the 1930's.


The alt-right appeared in the MSM about 24 hours after Trump descended the escalator.

Coincidence? I think not.


According to Wikipedia, Richard Spencer published a magazine called "The Alternative Right" in 2010, although I think the actual organization of it as a movement was somewhat later, on 4Chan and Daily Stormer.

I'm no real expert on it beyond what I have read online.




posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 03:10 PM
link   

originally posted by: Oathkeeper73

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: carewemust
Filthy commies going to be filthy commies?
Its what they do
They hate the usa


They aren't as soft and loving as those gentle neo-Nazi's alt-righters, eh?




Dunno... historically, we didn't see a lot of alt-righters in the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

But hey... keep re-writing history...




Were the Nazis Socialists? - Snopes

Were Hitler and the National Socialists (Nazis) really socialists? - Quora

The Differences between Socialism and National Socialism - DifferenceBetween.net

Was Adolf Hitler a Socialist? - ThoughtCo.

Similarly, Fascism was an extremist Right-Wing ideology, named after the Italian Fascist Party, a precursor to the Nazi's.

Sometimes words can have alternate, and even opposite meanings (like the world series).

And the Alt-Right movement is a recent American phenomenon. There was no alt-right in the 1930's.


Yes alt right is recent...because liberal media needed a way to scare sheeple like yourself


I'm not scared of a group of louts in another country.



posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 03:15 PM
link   
a reply to: chr0naut

I think we are aware of your lack of expert expertise. LOL.

Complexities abound and are challenging to navigate with accurate perceptions, assessments, conclusions.

Nevertheless, Marxist globalist goals & values are rejected by all Patriots.

Marxist agents wallow saturated in Kool-Aid, ignorance & idiocy.

POTUS Trump is massively, brilliantly, compassionately, masterfully, faithfully, creatively, heroically, at great personal cost (lost $1billion), RESCUING THE USA & THE PLANET FROM MARXIST GLOBALIST TYRANNY that almost succeeded in putting HRC in to finish shoving the USA & the globe down the greased chute to hell & setting up the Marxist globalist satanic dictator to rule the 500 million allowed to still live as serfs & slaves without freedom at all.

We get that you support the destruction of freedoms, freedom of speech & thought, the 2nd amendment, etc.

You can dance around with well chosen net information all you want.

Patriots will persistently reject tyranny, blackwashing, ignorance & idiocy.

www.globalistagenda.org...

The UK has long been lost demographically as well as spiritually & philosophically.

Demographers noted that some years ago--the Muzzies will shred the UK up one side & down the other short of major shocking preventive steps that do not appear to be on the horizon at all.
edit on 1322020 by JoseGarcia because: addendum



posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 03:23 PM
link   
Because extremism promotes violence...
This video is almost more relevant today than at the time.

The Sanders campaign is overrun with extremists.



posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 03:46 PM
link   
I can't speak for the Bernie Campaign but I've read that if you do not make room for peaceful revolutions that violence is inevitable.



posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 03:57 PM
link   
The answer is simple.

Bernie is a socialist. Socialism is the ideology of the spoiled child.

He attracts brats who have no clue how to deal with life and who think that the world owes them everything.



posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 04:19 PM
link   
a reply to: JoseGarcia

I guess Conservative think tank, the Cato Institute, who has published similar findings, is also packed with "Obama holdovers."

The truth is, every study done on the topic has found that far Right extremism is the number one cause of terrorism in the US.



posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 04:34 PM
link   

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: JoseGarcia

I guess Conservative think tank, the Cato Institute, who has published similar findings, is also packed with "Obama holdovers."

The truth is, every study done on the topic has found that far Right extremism is the number one cause of terrorism in the US.


Please link all these studies please.

I think you're full of #.



posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 04:39 PM
link   

originally posted by: JoseGarcia
a reply to: chr0naut

Tyrannical authoritarian evil always ends up being peas in a pod regardless of left/right labels attached to such groups, ideologies, movements, governments.


That is true. Neither extreme has the moral high ground.


Patriots are against such regardless of the labels or which end of an artificial continuum is involved.


Patriotism is always called upon as a motivator by tyrannical governments. There is no reason why someone who reasonably cared for themselves, their family and their local community, to go and throw their (and other) lives away in service of such a dubious and ephemeral thing as a nation.

Tyrannies have always called upon 'patriots' to 'do their duty'.


Keep supporting the evildoers & you can reap the same as they do. None of us escape the universals law of reaping what we sow.

Patriots don't sow (in a very literal sense, they abandon work such as farming and feeding their families). Instead, they go off and fight wars against people they don't know, over resources they don't own, on behalf of tyrannical leaders they owe nothing to, for a nation that usually taxes them unfairly.



posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 05:02 PM
link   

originally posted by: JoseGarcia
a reply to: chr0naut

I think we are aware of your lack of expert expertise. LOL.


Then why would I make a specific point of mentioning my lack of expertise on the subject?

You don't appear to have thought through your response before posting. LOL.




Complexities abound and are challenging to navigate with accurate perceptions, assessments, conclusions.

Nevertheless, Marxist globalist goals & values are rejected by all Patriots.

Marxist agents wallow saturated in Kool-Aid, ignorance & idiocy.

POTUS Trump is massively, brilliantly, compassionately, masterfully, faithfully, creatively, heroically, at great personal cost (lost $1billion), RESCUING THE USA & THE PLANET FROM MARXIST GLOBALIST TYRANNY that almost succeeded in putting HRC in to finish shoving the USA & the globe down the greased chute to hell & setting up the Marxist globalist satanic dictator to rule the 500 million allowed to still live as serfs & slaves without freedom at all.


Wow.

Do you cry when you see his picture?



America wasn't a Marxist state before Trump became its President and it won't be afterward, either.


We get that you support the destruction of freedoms, freedom of speech & thought, the 2nd amendment, etc.


I don't.

Those freedoms of speech and thought, that is what all those academics and liberals want.

It is the other side, the ultra-right-wing, the Fascists, Nazi's and the dictatorial right who burn books and jail people based on irrelevancies such as place of birth or religion practice or gender taboo, or whatever.

You seem to have gotten history entirely backward.


You can dance around with well-chosen net information all you want.

Patriots will persistently reject tyranny, blackwashing, ignorance & idiocy.

www.globalistagenda.org...

The UK has long been lost demographically as well as spiritually & philosophically.

Demographers noted that some years ago--the Muzzies will shred the UK up one side & down the other short of major shocking preventive steps that do not appear to be on the horizon at all.


Currently, Britain is being shredded, economically, by Brexit. I am fairly sure that was a right-wing 'nationalist' initiative.

And, are the Muslims, which have been accepted in Britain for decades, actually doing like what you suggest? Nope. Not happening.

edit on 13/2/2020 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 05:42 PM
link   

originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: chr0naut

They aren't as soft and loving as those gentle neo-Nazi's alt-righters, eh?



What many do not understand is Bernie not only attracts socialist, but also anarchist that want to take down the government/society as we know it. They intermix quite well together even having different end games, so if you see something like ANTIFA a big part of them and the most destructive aspect are anarchist that are using that change platform to their own desires. I know a good number of far left liberals that I feel have very extreme points that they can not even defend if put to the debate are actually everyday working people who the vast majority of the time do the same things daily as the typical Republican does.

When we say alt-right or Nazi that is a very small group of people, even when we look back that Charlottesville's alt-right rally they came from ALL over the country for it and numbered around a measly 100, boy big turnout. Compare that to 2 million gang members who all live in a countrey of like 330 million and most Americans left or right get the true picture. The true danger then is in numbers that the anarchist have over other extremist groups. It doesn't help that Bernie's group takes them in with open arms since both groups are looking for extreme change.


Trump is strongly nationalist and anti-immigration although he denies being alt-right.


Trump is not anti-immigration. He is anti-illegal immigration.


Then why is he capping legal immigration and granting of refugee status at such low (and reducing) numbers?


Legal immigration has always been capped. He can control refugee numbers as he wishes. Maybe he thinks we are caring for enough refugees and should start caring more about our own citizens.
Whatever the numbers, LEGAL is the key word. Want open borders, change the laws. Even NZ has laws, don't they? Do they selectively enforce laws?


He has reduced the numbers allowed to LEGALLY immigrate.

And the US survived 2005 (you know, the good old days when America was great, LOL) and when illegal and legal immigration was at an all-time high.



posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 06:22 PM
link   

originally posted by: Gojira54
The answer is simple.

Bernie is a socialist. Socialism is the ideology of the spoiled child.

He attracts brats who have no clue how to deal with life and who think that the world owes them everything.


Well put. Except that:

Bernie is a dyed-in-the-wool COMMUNIST pure & simple--all his adult life.

Glories in & praises Marxism in Russia, Cuba & Venezuela.

We could give him a one way ticket to go eat rats & grass with Venezuelans.

Ditto Mayor Pete, O'B et al . . .

Who were both chosen very young & groomed to assume tyrannical power.
edit on 1322020 by JoseGarcia because: addendum



posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 06:28 PM
link   



posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 08:39 PM
link   

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: JoseGarcia

I guess Conservative think tank, the Cato Institute, who has published similar findings, is also packed with "Obama holdovers."

The truth is, every study done on the topic has found that far Right extremism is the number one cause of terrorism in the US.


Bull!Gov. orgs and the msm have always lied about such numbers.It is in their interest to do so.



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 03:26 AM
link   
a reply to: Sunwolf

VIOLENCE ON THE LEFT VS RIGHT STATISTICS ETC.

My own conviction is that left wing violence markedly outnumbers right wing violence but is reported as opposite because the Marxist globalist liberal DEMS have a 96% monopoly on the media doing the reporting.

And, because with very few relatively minor exceptions, most of the gun toting conservatives I know are fiercely protective of their families but resistant to getting into public violence.

That is somewhat changing in that as the liberals keep attacking conservatives more & more publicly, conservatives are furious about it and have had enough. They have started standing up for themselves. But they do not initiate violence. They just retaliate when attacked.

One of the better articles I’ve found:
Politics—Left vs right violence
markhumphrys.com...
Terrorism in USA, 1980-2005

INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY
Left-Wing Violence Ramps Up As Election Nears — And Dems Yawn

www.investors.com...



Civil Society: What happens when men physically assault female politicians or threaten them with poison? If those women are Republicans and the attackers are leftists, Democrats greet them with silence, excuses, or worse. So left-wing violence grows.

Here's what the "tolerant" left has been up to in just the past few days, as the midterm elections near:
In Nevada, police arrested a left-wing operative for assaulting Kristin Davison, who is the campaign manager for gubernatorial candidate Adam Laxalt.
"He grabbed my right arm, my leg was lodged between the door and the wall. He twisted my arm, and contorted it behind my back," Davison said. "I was scared. Every time I tried pulling away, he would grab tighter, and pull me closer into him."
The alleged assailant, Wilfred Stark, had been charged in March with assaulting another woman, Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke's spokesperson, outside a congressional hearing room.
Punching A State Rep
In Minnesota, a man punched state representative Sarah Anderson in the arm after she confronted him for destroying Republican campaign yard signs.
. . .




REAL CLEAR POLITICS

THERE IS NO ‘SURGE’ IN RIGHT-WING VIOLENCE

www.realclearpolitics.com...




. . .

For one thing, even if we accept the numbers the Post offers, the use of the word "surge" -- meaning a sudden, powerful forward or upward movement -- strains credibility. There's no evidence of a "surge," either in historical context or as a matter of ideological preference.
That is to say, we have good reason not to accept the numbers. According to The Washington Post, which relies on Global Terrorism Database data, there were zero acts of right-wing terrorism in the entire nation in 2002. Since then, we have seen a "surge," to 36 in a nation of 325-plus million people in 2017. Among those acts, there were 11 fatalities.
In other words, fewer homicides were committed by political terrorists of any stripe in the United States in 2017 than were committed by undocumented immigrants in the state of Texas alone -- which, I am assured, is an incredibly low number that shouldn't worry us very much. If one of these "surges" is scaremongering, why not the other?
Then again, even if we use the criteria offered by the GTD, we need to be exceptionally generous to even get to 36 incidents of right-wing violence in 2017. (I could find only 32.)
For example, although the Post acknowledges that the Las Vegas shooter's motivations are still unknown, the GTD had no problem categorizing the murderer of 58 people as an "anti-government extremist." And it takes these sorts of assumptions to get in the vicinity of a "surge" in right-wing terrorism.
Of the 32 incidents I was able to find, 12 featured perpetrators who were merely "suspected" of being right-wing terrorists. Some of these incidents could have been the work of one person, as in the pellet gun shootings of Muslims in New York. In other incidents, we are asked to treat patently insane people as if they had coherent political agendas.
Still other events are even more opaque. In San Juan, Puerto Rico -- apparently a hotbed of white supremacy -- an incendiary device was thrown into a gay nightclub. No one was injured, thank goodness. Also, no one was caught, and no one claimed responsibility for the act. Yet the episode doesn't even earn a "suspected" designation from GTD.

If the definition of domestic terrorism is muddy at best, the definition of right-wing terrorism is often arbitrary and self-serving.
. . .



=====================

The stats in this article by Forbes are a stinking pile of horse biscuits.
www.forbes.com...

e.g.


. . .
Nationalist and Right Wing terrorists are the second deadliest group by ideology, as they account for 6.6% of all terrorist murders during this time. The 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, the second deadliest terrorist attack in U.S. history, killed 168 people and accounted for 77% of all the murders committed by Nationalist and Right Wing terrorists. The chance of being murdered in a Nationalist or Right Wing terrorist attack was about 1 in 33 million per year.
. . .


That’s a horrific lie. The OKC bombing was a Marxist globalist oligarchy/government black op perpetrated on the USA by the VERY LEFT oligarchy’s thugs. There is absolutely no doubt of that per multiple witnesses.

So, the LEFT would have to take responsibility for those 168 deaths. Subtract out then the 77% assigned to the right by the liars.

This is but another example of the oligarchy’s death grip on 96% of the media to brain wash the media.
Similarly assigning 9/11 to Muzzy ‘extremists’ is a partial farce in that the same LEFTIST Marxist globalist oligarchy put them up to it, helped stage it & helped cover it up.



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 05:53 AM
link   
a reply to: Gojira54

Here's a few to get you started:

Immigration Status and Nationality: A Risk Analysis, 1975–2017

Profiles of Individual Radicalization in the United States

Countering Violent Extremism(note that this is a PDF)

Law Enforcement Assessment of Violent Extremist Threats(another PDF)
edit on 2/14/2020 by Xcalibur254 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 02:15 PM
link   
a reply to: carewemust

I think a lot of Bernie's supporters feel disenfranchised by the system, hence their anger.



posted on Feb, 15 2020 @ 08:36 AM
link   

originally posted by: openminded2011
a reply to: carewemust

I think a lot of Bernie's supporters feel disenfranchised by the system, hence their anger.


I think a lot of Bernie's supporters are spoiled children. And since it's a well known fact that Bernie will NEVER be President, they're angry.

Spoiled children throw temper tantrums when they don't get their way.



posted on Feb, 15 2020 @ 06:34 PM
link   
a reply to: carewemust

Because Socialist tend to be very angry. They blame others for the bad choices they made in life. They tend to be in the lower class and miserable, so they are easily triggered.



posted on Feb, 15 2020 @ 08:34 PM
link   
a reply to: Gojira54

So I guess you didn't actually want to see the studies...




top topics



 
23
<< 5  6  7    9 >>

log in

join