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New Hampshire and Bernie wins...feel the burn America..down to the ground

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posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 10:07 AM
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Who could ever forsee this happening when the constitution was molested by politicians to redistribute wealth to their friends and families and create an artificial barrier to climbing the ladder of success?
More and more taxes every year...forever
A new approach or entire system is needed.
Voting for whom will steal the least is bs.





posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: Edumakated

And yet these corporations are posting record profits and their executives are getting more and more ridiculous salaries, not to mention the bonuses. Why is none of that actually trickling down?

Oh that's right, because Reaganomics is actually scam that allows the wealthy to pull in as much wealth as possible before voting out the economy and leaving the little guy holding the tab.
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posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 10:12 AM
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Most Americans DO INVEST. Look it up. This is a lie being repeated over and over. 51% have money in the markets from most reports.

Nonsense because the people saying they don't are just making stuff up. It's not true.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: Edumakated




Lesbian Art theory


*raises an eyebrow*

Income inequality has squeezed the middle class out of the majority

Not exactly a radical communist paper by definition. What's your source, how do you inform yourself? No. Do you even inform yourself, or are you done with edumakating yourself after getting that precious Lesbian Art Degree?



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

you want socialism , move to a country that has it . Cuba or Venezuela will probably take you and your money . Maybe Russia but don't go to China , Government run healthcare is having problems there . Adios Amigo



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 10:28 AM
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Even if Bernie magically won, the electoral college is going to crush him. The EC is not made up of young adults, disgruntled poor or loud mouth celebrities.

It's made up of for the most part by mature adults. It is often a reward for many years of loyal service to their party. These people have worked a lifetime to build this trust. Working, savings, investing. These aren't a bunch of college freshmen and welfare folks.

Bottom line; the EC is made up of respectable wage earning middle and upper middle Americans which is a large part of Trump's base. Hillary found this out the hard way. So will Bernie.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 10:38 AM
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I think Bernie still has 1,835 delegates to go, yet MSM/DNC are already scared he will be the nominee.

They're also fearful the Corona Virus will kill most of the world's population.

I wonder which one has the better chances of happening?



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: Stupidsecrets

So if Bernie somehow managed to win in a landslide you would have no problem if the EC voted against the will of the people?



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 10:51 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Edumakated




Lesbian Art theory


*raises an eyebrow*

Income inequality has squeezed the middle class out of the majority

Not exactly a radical communist paper by definition. What's your source, how do you inform yourself? No. Do you even inform yourself, or are you done with edumakating yourself after getting that precious Lesbian Art Degree?



From your own source:



The number of households that are middle class is now matched by those that are either upper or lower income, according to a report released Wednesday by the Pew Research Center.

The nation has arrived at this tipping point in part because more Americans are moving up the income ladder. In 1971, just 14 percent of Americans were in the upper income tier, which Pew defined as more than double the nation’s median income. Now, 21 percent of American households are in that upper earning category -- at least $126,000 a year for a three-person household.


Only in the liberal mind is MORE PEOPLE MOVING OUT OF MIDDLE CLASS INTO THE UPPER CLASSES a bad thing.

Yes, some people at the bottom aren't doing as well, but as I outlined above, a big part of that is structural due to changes in education, competition from immigrants both here and abroad, etc.

What is happening is that nowadays if you get "off track" it has become vastly more difficult to get back on track. It used to be you could be a screw up but as long as you could drive a bolt, you could earn a living. Nowadays, it is very difficult to earn a living if you make a few bad choices. This is an entirely different topic though...



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 10:54 AM
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Despite all the paranoid neo-McCarthyism from the right, it's interesting to note that a lot of people are more interested in Bernie-as-a-person, rather than Bernie-as-a-democratic-socialist. They tend to see him as authentic and consistent. He's gruff and grumpy, sure, but he's grumpy about a lot of challenges in this country that concern people.

There's a long way to go to the nomination, and the corporate media is going to do their best to amplify the "Aww Gawd he's a cawmie. Git ya flintgun Roy." rhetoric, but this is encouraging.

Viva la revolución.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 10:58 AM
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originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
Most Americans DO INVEST. Look it up. This is a lie being repeated over and over. 51% have money in the markets from most reports.

Nonsense because the people saying they don't are just making stuff up. It's not true.


51%? Yeah, that’s barely most. I’d expect that at least 51% gamble in casinos too. And of that 51% about 90% own 15% of the stocks. And that last 10%? They own 85% of the stocks. The sum total of the bottom 90% of Americans stocks is a negligible amount. Removing relativity does make an argument for you.... but it’s a false argument. Only 10% of Americans have any real amount “invested” and the rest have chicken scratch.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 10:59 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Stupidsecrets

So if Bernie somehow managed to win in a landslide you would have no problem if the EC voted against the will of the people?


I would have no problem with following the rule of law. I would have a problem with Bernie but not the process but I also know he will not be winning a landslide either.

That was suppose to happen last time and look what happened. The EC did the right thing. They had two choices; go with a known toxic corrupt person or an unknown and give the country a fighting chance. Bernie is not a fighting chance. The things he is talking about is not even the job of the President or the Federal Government.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 11:01 AM
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Except the buying power of $42,757 in 1971 is equal to $278,136 today. So while the number of people that may actually be in the "upper income" tier has increased, that amount of money is actually worth less than half than it was in 1971.

Why? Because middle and lower class wages have stagnated.
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posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 11:12 AM
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The things he is talking about is not even the job of the President or the Federal Government.


Exactly this! It is all Legislative implementation. The House and Senate have the ability to create these wonderful programs for America over ruling a Presidential veto even. So, with these candidates who have been in the Legislative branch for so many years, why have they not been making it happen through policy and law making?

Is it because many of their proposals cannot actually occur due to Constitutional conflicts? They are offering empty promises to Americans for votes. Obama tried to circumnavigate the Constitution with his mandated tax but that will always fail and only be a temporary measure.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 11:13 AM
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Investing takes TIME. It's not going to happen over night for most Americans. Years and years of building. I know many millionaires now who were not millionaires until they almost retired which is what should happen.

They started out with "chicken scratch" that part is true. What is not true is that it's still chicken scratch after 30-40 years of of it being in the market. About half the country gets it. The other half does not have the patience or mental aptitude to understand that money, even tiny buckets of it, can actually work for them over a period of time so one day they will not have to work at all. The money did all the work for them.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 11:13 AM
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originally posted by: pexx421

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
Most Americans DO INVEST. Look it up. This is a lie being repeated over and over. 51% have money in the markets from most reports.

Nonsense because the people saying they don't are just making stuff up. It's not true.


51%? Yeah, that’s barely most. I’d expect that at least 51% gamble in casinos too. And of that 51% about 90% own 15% of the stocks. And that last 10%? They own 85% of the stocks. The sum total of the bottom 90% of Americans stocks is a negligible amount. Removing relativity does make an argument for you.... but it’s a false argument. Only 10% of Americans have any real amount “invested” and the rest have chicken scratch.


That is more of a personal problem... and due to lack of financial education.

Even people who think they don't own stock, typically still benefit. Take pensioners for example....



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
Investing takes TIME. It's not going to happen over night for most Americans. Years and years of building. I know many millionaires now who were not millionaires until they almost retired which is what should happen.

They started out with "chicken scratch" that part is true. What is not true is that it's still chicken scratch after 30-40 years of of it being in the market. About half the country gets it. The other half does not have the patience or mental aptitude to understand that money, even tiny buckets of it, can actually work for them over a period of time so one day they will not have to work at all. The money did all the work for them.





Exactly. A dollar a day over a 40+ years working would grow to about $700k..... most people are too stupid to put $1 dollar a day away. They don't have the patience and it isn't a tangible material good that can be shown off immediately.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Those charts are inflation adjusted. Secondly, while it is true a dollar is worth less, in many cases, it also still buys higher quality goods and services.

Compare a car, computer, house quality, practically ANYTHING purchased today of that from the 70s and the relative cost... you'll find the good is far better quality today.

Sure... school, healthcare, and housing have all seen inflation. Gee, what is the common denominator? Govt interference.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: pexx421

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
Most Americans DO INVEST. Look it up. This is a lie being repeated over and over. 51% have money in the markets from most reports.

Nonsense because the people saying they don't are just making stuff up. It's not true.


51%? Yeah, that’s barely most. I’d expect that at least 51% gamble in casinos too. And of that 51% about 90% own 15% of the stocks. And that last 10%? They own 85% of the stocks. The sum total of the bottom 90% of Americans stocks is a negligible amount. Removing relativity does make an argument for you.... but it’s a false argument. Only 10% of Americans have any real amount “invested” and the rest have chicken scratch.


That is more of a personal problem... and due to lack of financial education.

Even people who think they don't own stock, typically still benefit. Take pensioners for example....


Except the statistics disagree with you and stupid secrets. As only the top 10% of retiring age Americans have over 100k in investments. Which is not enough to retire on..... not even close. The other 90% of people that are supposed to retire now? They have less than 50k, and 50% of them have nothing or almost nothing. Your paradigm, rosy as it may seem, isn’t working. And that’s the problem largely with the right wing, conservative, neo con and neoliberal mindset. They have a lot of great ideas that sound great in the theories they made up, but they don’t exist in the real world. Trickle down economics, ideology driven laws and justice system, and retirement investment in the stock market. Who would have thought these wouldn’t work? Oh, yeah. Plenty people.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: Edumakated
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Those charts are inflation adjusted. Secondly, while it is true a dollar is worth less, in many cases, it also still buys higher quality goods and services.

Compare a car, computer, house quality, practically ANYTHING purchased today of that from the 70s and the relative cost... you'll find the good is far better quality today.

Sure... school, healthcare, and housing have all seen inflation. Gee, what is the common denominator? Govt interference.



Sure. We have plenty stuff that’s shinier and more functional. Sadly it’s all disposable now too, with nothing lasting like it used to. And keep in mind, the production costs of that car or computer you have now are much lower than they were back then, adjusted for inflation. And yet they cost much more and are replaced more often as well.



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