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New Hampshire and Bernie wins...feel the burn America..down to the ground

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posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:11 AM
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socialism comes to America in cycles and always fails when faced with our system, bernie wouldn't be the first socialist progressive to be president if he wins, but honestly he's too much of a pushover to actually accomplish anything significant when compared to past American socialist politicians and has no socialist movement to support him like they did.




posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:13 AM
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originally posted by: Martin75
a reply to: 727Sky
America will not elect a socialist President in 2020.

Real democrats will either vote for Trump or stay home.

It's like the democrats want to lose. Maybe they secretly like Trump policies 😳🤣😂



Socialism, don't make me laugh.

I've lived under socialism in several different countries and in all of them he'd bee considered a raving capitalist. he is slightly to the left of trump, but only slightly. he'd have to triple his socialist credentials to be considered center left.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:15 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

You want to talk about corruption?

One of the most profitable parts of our healthcare system literally does nothing. Their whole business model is predicated on taking my money and then finding ways not to give it back to me when I need it.

There maybe corruption in government, but the corporations we currently rely on for our well being and livelihoods are way more corrupt. So why are you fine putting all your trust in them?



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:21 AM
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Just for the record since people seem to understand how the media works regarding Trump, they've been doing the same thing to Bernie. His plan to give free health care by taxing every transaction on wall street is a pretty genius idea. How many people on here that are against Bernie gamble on wallstreet? And why would it be so bad that when you get cancer you're not forced to sell your house to pay for treatment that will kill you eventually?



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: Atsbhct

Better?




posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:25 AM
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a reply to: Flesh699

Everyone with a 401k gambles on Wall Street.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:29 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

What would you rather have though, a potentially smaller 401k that you can actually use, or a potentially larger 401k that completely disappears the second you get a bad diagnosis from the doctor?

Either way you're gambling, but at least in one case you're guaranteed to walk out of the casino with some winnings.
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posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:33 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

I'll take my chances with the larger 401k.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:37 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Considering you would be spending less annually on insurance and health care you could easily invest that extra income and make up the difference. So you could potentially be getting the same size 401k but you don't have to worry about blowing it all on health related expenses.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:38 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

They get away with it because Congress lets them.

Which came first chicken or the egg, the person bribing or the person being bribed.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:38 AM
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I'd welcome the discussion in the general election, but there are a metric F-ton of entrenched and thoroughly corrupt interests in both parties who will whore out the Statue of Liberty before they let THAT debate happen.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:41 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: DBCowboy

You want to talk about corruption?

One of the most profitable parts of our healthcare system literally does nothing. Their whole business model is predicated on taking my money and then finding ways not to give it back to me when I need it.

There maybe corruption in government, but the corporations we currently rely on for our well being and livelihoods are way more corrupt. So why are you fine putting all your trust in them?


I'm not, and if it weren't for Obamacare, or legislators refusing to pass laws that would cut insurance costs, we'd all be paying a lot less.

But politicians don't want us paying a lot less.

They want to make it hurt so we will come to them and say, "Please solve the problem that you created with your idiot laws!"



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

They are literally the same people. It's a revolving door. The biggest con in the history of the world is the one that tells us there is a difference between the two. There hasn't been in 120 years. That's why teachers spend so much time on the founding fathers and not compound interest. If every high school freshman had to understand debt and interest before advancing to the next grade, there would be guillotines out in front of the capitol building.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:44 AM
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originally posted by: Middleoftheroad

originally posted by: ColeYounger

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: 727Sky

Too much money is being redistributed to billionaires. The economy is rigged. It's organized crime.

Socialism is the only answer. Why is one type of theft better than the other type. The billionaires have been raping the workers for years. It's time for the pendulum to swing back the other way!

I think Bernie is great! I hope he wins!





If you look real close you can also see his accomplishments as a politician in his 40 years of service.



Ummm...yessir…

BOTH...post offices named...that's a twofer right there...

Then there was that other...thing...wait for it...wait for it...CRAP...

I just can't seem to recall what that legislation was...


So...forty years a politician and he managed to name a couple post offices...

So...lets make him president...





YouSir



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:45 AM
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What happens when there's no more Billionaire, oops I mean Millionaire money?

Whats the incentive to achieve something to turn around and have the Government Redistribute it?

Asking for a Friend...
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posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:49 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Bluntone22

Considering you would be spending less annually on insurance and health care you could easily invest that extra income and make up the difference. So you could potentially be getting the same size 401k but you don't have to worry about blowing it all on health related expenses.


I may be spending less annually on insurance but where will I be spending more?
Sanders loves Denmark.
They pay 45% income tax and a vat tax in the teens.

You need to step away from the notion that the government controlling anything will ever save you money.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:51 AM
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I am curious why the news are saying that Bernie won New Hampshire? Have they not learned that the popular count vote is meaningless in an electoral election.

Looking at the results shows that Buttigeig and Bernie, both get 9 delegates each and Amy takes the other 6. It looks like a tie to me as far as the electoral votes go. A candidate needs 1990 delegates nationally to be the chosen candidate from the primaries.

Add in the Iowa caucas results: Buttigeig 13 delegates and Bernie 12 delegates
It seems that the current leading candidate for the Dems is in fact Buttigeig and not Sanders!

On the other hand, the big winner with 20 delegates was Trump.(+39 delegates Iowa). So the Democrats really need to come together and narrow down their choices. Also, the candidates might want to stop attacking the supporters of other candidates, since they will need their votes come the general to even come close to Trump.
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posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:52 AM
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originally posted by: Flesh699
Just for the record since people seem to understand how the media works regarding Trump, they've been doing the same thing to Bernie. His plan to give free health care by taxing every transaction on wall street is a pretty genius idea. How many people on here that are against Bernie gamble on wallstreet? And why would it be so bad that when you get cancer you're not forced to sell your house to pay for treatment that will kill you eventually?



You do realize that "Wall Street" tax would trickle down and hurt the returns on Grandma's pension or your 401k, correct?

Whose money do you think is being gambled on Wall Street? Yours!

The traders / asset mangers, etc who are making big bucks do so because they are able to consistently get returns better than the broader market.

Stop being so gullible and envious.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 08:57 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Numerous studies have shown that the increase in taxes would still be less than the annual expense of purchasing health insurance.



posted on Feb, 12 2020 @ 09:02 AM
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originally posted by: namehere
socialism comes to America in cycles and always fails when faced with our system, bernie wouldn't be the first socialist progressive to be president if he wins, but honestly he's too much of a pushover to actually accomplish anything significant when compared to past American socialist politicians and has no socialist movement to support him like they did.



You are correct. Bernie is not a leader. He has proven that fact in his 40 years experience in politics. He is a dreamer and likes to pro-actively yell at authority and leaders. He would only be an one term president and possibly take Carter's spot as the worse President. He does not have the smooth double speak oration down like Obama did.

He would not be able to get Americans to give him a 2nd chance and term. Besides, he would be hard pressed to survive the stress of one term, so he best choose his VP wisely.

America survived 8 years of Obama. America will survive Trump's term/s. America would survive Bernie too. Thank goodness for term limits. We just need them set in the legislative branch as well now!




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