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Found Trump's Playbook all the way back in 1949: Prophets of Deceit

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posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 08:48 PM
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I agree sometimes the labels get thrown around too easily but maybe there are a lot of racists in this country and many more who don't realize it so why not just take what they say and ask yourself if maybe you do have socially ingrained prejudices that could be corrected, if not then hey at least you checked yourself. The vast majority of Democrats believed Trump committed impeachable offenses so the house was just doing what the people wanted. Most everyone from every political spectrum gets too offended too easily and by the same token is too offensive in this society. Respetfully I would say this administration is acting in a very fascist, warlike and divisive manner. reply to: Jubilation T Cornpone




posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

Except as the book explains, he isn't fixing anything. He's only making things worse. He's riding on Obama's economy and the boom of corporate tax cuts and we'll be feeling the effects of his actual policies over the next 4 years or so.



posted on Feb, 13 2020 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: ras321




posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 07:39 AM
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Reading through this entire thread i cannot believe the striking similarities between whats going on the the USA now and what we in the UK have dealt with recently. Firstly the book mentioned sounds like its come straight from the Marx playbook, the Nazi party ideology also came straight from Marx and was moulded by Adolf, this in itself goes against everything Trump stands for, he is a democratic capitalist who loves his country and mine and values the losses on both sides fighting Nazi and Communist extremes as an act of undisputed bravery and solidarity. So how you can compare Trump to this tripe is beyond me .

Your entire attitude is pretty much the cause of why you are getting the responses you have received, you think that being: obtuse, condescending, arrogant and without a doubt narcissistic will make people want to debate with you well it really wont.
You barrel everyone into one bucket basically saying Trump supporters are old and uneducated , racist or ill informed compared to you and your ilk, we heard the same bleetling arguments about voting conservative in the UK, well sorry to burst your bubble but millions voted for trump. They were black, white, hispanic, disabled, gay they included scientists, engineers, professors right down to the working man on the street building your houses or fixing your drains. Why is it that Bob who worked all his life who gets up to collect the refuse everyday at 5am, slaving to feed his family in your opinion have less of a say than Tim who has just graduated uni with a degree in racial studies and has done absolutely nothing for his country!! All because in your mind Tim is more "educated" i think not my friend.

Your truly fascist views on who is worthy to make decisions and who is not goes completely against everything our two great countries stood for and that is why recently the British voted decisively to boot this kind diseased mentality back to the ashes of Marx....where it belongs. To the point where the loony left here in the UK has now turned from a competent opposition party to more of a protest movement, it now has NO say in anything. I can promise you this IS going to happen with your election coming up, all those labels, insults, buzzwords are really going to come back to haunt you.
But the real finisher and downfall was trying to oust a democratically elected president through kangaroo courts (this also happened in the UK, with ideas being floated around of replacing our elected government with a "caretaker" government made up of people who voted to remain in the EU)in my opinion this has sealed the fate of the democratic party in the 2020 elections without a doubt.

We as brothers as and sisters share the same foundations and values, we also share the same democracy both held and protected by us for 100s of years we do not take kindly to these abhorrent views, games and manipulation of said democracy and the way you class your fellow man with your twisted view of intelligence is disgusting. Good luck Trump 2020, most of the UK loves you!
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posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: ukallday

What a surprise, you didn't actually pay attention to anything I've said and substituted your own narrative in it's place to maintain the delusion you are under. I didn't make any of the claims you say I did.

Trump is doing LITERALLY EVERYTHING this book lays out and yet you still make the claim "the other" are the ones who are really doing these things and Trump is actually 100% against them.

en.wikipedia.org...

The response to economic grievances is to say that "too much help is being extended to foreign nations”, that not only are "foreigners taking our money, they also threaten our jobs".Political grievances are addressed by the call to action against international "commitments by the United States government [that] jeopardize political liberties. "Media outlets are the source of cultural grievances, and labeled "the enemies of the nation", while other enemies are depicted as morally lax, "a crowd of Marxists, refugees, [and] left-wing internationalists

He offers himself "a champion of democracy and Christianity", and as the only person who will solve grievances.

Chapter VIII ("The Follower") explains that adherents are made to believe the enemy will only be vanquished through means of a movement and by following the leader's dictates. External forces said to threaten American society are emphasized. The size of the movement is quantified, with claims that it consists "75% of the American people". In Chapter IX ("The Leader") he positions himself as someone with special skills, whose interests support theirs, someone who is "one of the plain folk ... yet far above them."

In the closing chapter ("What the Listener Heard"), the authors discuss the listener's reactions. They view them as generally drawn to the idea of success, while against "bureaucrats, Jews, congressmen, plutocrats, communists ... He grumbles against the foreigners who come to this country and get good jobs."

They found that agitators typically employ 21 common tactics in their speeches, such as characterizing the enemy as a low animal (i.e. vermin), or building up an image of a folksy "chosen leader who responds to an inner call."

An agitator presents himself as an advocate for social change with the purpose of defeating the underlying causes of discontent, builds a movement and proclaims himself its leader; he is "in fact, full of reactionary cliches about 'the good old days' and the 'simple American Way which our ancestors loved'."


Yep, none of this sounds like Trump at all.




posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: Oblique9043

An understanding of the concept of "disagreement" clearly eludes you in the same manner as the concept of merit eludes a socialist.



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

It's amazing how oblivious you are to the fact that you are actually talking about yourself. This doesn't even make sense. What disagreement? Facts are facts, you don't get to disagree with them. Calling me a socialist as some sort of pejorative like you even know my politics in the first place. You have put me in this box of the "other" and in this box is everything you claim to be against and hate yet it's actually everything you really are and has nothing to do with me at all. You label this box "Liberal, communist, marxist, leftist, socialist, etc' and yet I bet you couldn't even properly define half of these terms. All you know is that these labels define the enemy and the enemy is someone to be hated and to never be listened to or have his points considered. Thats why everyone who is against Trump must be one of these things, even if they were beloved by Trump supporters the day before.



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 03:27 PM
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a reply to: Oblique9043

Learn to read, I didn't call you a socialist, I said the understanding of the concept of "disagreement" eludes you in the same manner as the concept of merit eludes a socialist. Proof that you are still chasing that concept around the room, trying to catch the lil' bugger and failing lies fully in your reply to me. You're right, facts are facts... actually find some fact and maybe we can discuss them. Your understanding of the difference between facts and opinions is right up there with your understanding of disagreement (and, of course, that socialist's understanding of merit.)


A blind man with seizure disorder and crippling vertigo stands a better chance of successfully contacting his mouth to an ice cream cone he's holding on a windy day than anyone here seems to have getting you to understand even the most basic of word meanings and concepts.



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

You compared me to a socialist for a reason. Don't be obtuse. Debating with you is pointless, if you can even call this debating. All you seek to do is put labels on me and deem me too stupid to understand English so you can mentally block the things I say. You're a lost cause.



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 04:09 PM
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a reply to: Oblique9043

The fact that you can't comprehend the difference between me directly calling you a socialist or even comparing you to one and me making a comparison of comprehensional failures involving you and a socialist shines a blinding light onto why this thread exists. You speak of reality while running off to fight windmills because you read giants are dangerous. Just as a firefighter carrying a thimbleful of water should rethink charging into a blazing structure, so should you rethink charging into a battle of knowledge and wits.



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 05:04 PM
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posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 05:46 PM
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a reply to: Oblique9043

What degree of "no U" asshattery is that? Seriously? That's the retort that took you 55 minutes... OK, OK, that was unfair of me, you had to read my post before responding to it. That's the retort that took you 27 minutes to come up with? "No U?" "No freaking U?" Did you say to yourself, in a vaguely robotic voice "ha ha ha... memes!" after you posted that retort? Did you have illusions of grandeur dancing through your head like one of those 80's movie montages where Ralph Macchio finally sees himself kicking Johnny Lawrence in the nads, taking the trophy, the girl, and finally telling Mr. Miyagi "No means no, and your breath reeks of Saki" before waking up and realizing he was daydreaming again? What was the end goal there in responding with "I'm rubber, you're glue, what you say bounces off me and sticks to you" only in Cliff Note abridged form to render it down to "No U" then Cliff Noted again for the illiterate into Meme form? Did you make the meme yourself, applying words over an old high school photo of you in your Bulk from Power Ranger's phase?

No, no, you and I both know the real question that needs to be asked and answered here... The truly ponderous query that anyone with half a hair on their ass wants to see a response to. That question, of course, is "In a garbage thread about a ridiculous topic, at what point does the mouse realize he's being played with by the cat?"

Your move.



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 05:52 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

You're so oblivious that I'm just going to let you believe what you just wrote and watch that meme fly right over your head as to the reason why I posted it. You keep doing you bro. You're the best.



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: Oblique9043

I hot the nail on the head there... you definitely robotically chuckled "ha ha ha memes!" upon clicking reply.



posted on Feb, 14 2020 @ 06:27 PM
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So how about them Chiefs?



posted on Feb, 15 2020 @ 07:27 AM
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The one thing I hate that some on the left does is classify those on the right as being racist which I believe is detrimental if they hope to one day regain the White House. I do believe that some folks on here demonstrate "cultish" behaviour but I wouldn't paint all trump supporters as being "cultish" . This site has become a far right leaning site but there are some that love trump and will call him out when he's wrong, which I appreciate. The two things I absolutely dislike about President Trump is the fact that he lies a lot and his constant tweeting. While I don't give him credit for the economy because I think that is 90% Obama/Biden, I do give him full credit for stocks doing great.



posted on Feb, 15 2020 @ 05:32 PM
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a reply to: walkinghomer

Maybe they shouldn't be racist? And the ones who aren't should call out the ones who are. The "send her back" chants made it clear that the GOP is either blatantly racist or willingly accepts blatant racists. That is no ones fault but their own.

The stocks are doing well because of the corporate tax cuts and honestly, does this really effect the average American? It's just some arbitrary number to most and not an indication of how well of the average American is.



posted on Feb, 15 2020 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: Oblique9043
a reply to: walkinghomer

Maybe they shouldn't be racist? And the ones who aren't should call out the ones who are. The "send her back" chants made it clear that the GOP is either blatantly racist or willingly accepts blatant racists. That is no ones fault but their own.


Add "the difference between nationalism and racism" to the list of things Oblique9043 doesn't comprehend. The United States is a racial melting pot. "American" is not a race, HOWEVER, when someone enters America from a foreign country and then proceeds to lay demands for how America should change, they can feel free to jump a ship, plane, or thumb right back to whatever sniphole they came from (which was clearly enough of a sniphole for them to seek a better life in the US to begin with.) That isn't a racist viewpoint, it is a nationalist viewpoint that can and should be embraced by Americans of every race.



posted on Feb, 15 2020 @ 06:31 PM
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a reply to: Oblique9043

Played some seriously great football in the final 7 minutes of the Super Bowl. Andy Reid is awesome and Mahomes is a phenom.



posted on Feb, 15 2020 @ 09:11 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Except 3 of the 4 people Trump said should "go back where they came from" were born in America so your argument doesn't hold up. It also doesn't hold up because I don't hear anyone telling Bernie to go back where he came from or any white person. Gee, I wonder why that is.

America has changed, and it isn't the left that's changed it.




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