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Found Trump's Playbook all the way back in 1949: Prophets of Deceit

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posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: spiritualarchitect

You're giving Obama far, far too much credit.

He has no strongly held beliefs, other than in his own superiority. No, he's not Christian, nor is he Muslim.

Not that that truly matters in any significant fashion, IMHO, if he'd done a good job as President, he could have been a avowed Satanist, and I wouldn't have cared a great deal. A little, but not much.




posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 05:12 PM
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originally posted by: Oblique9043

Here, it's technically 65 years old but I think it still counts.

theamericanscholar.org...

The pseudo-conservative, Adorno writes, shows “conventionality and authoritarian submissiveness” in his conscious thinking and “violence, anarchic impulses, and chaotic destructiveness in the unconscious sphere. . . . The pseudo conservative is a man who, in the name of upholding traditional American values and institutions and defending them against more or less fictitious dangers, consciously or unconsciously aims at their abolition.”

(snip to save space)


You forgot to include an important part of that article, the beginning:


Twenty years ago the dynamic force in American political life came from the side of liberal dissent, from the impulse to reform the inequities of our economic and social system and to change our ways of doing things, to the end that the sufferings of the Great Depression would never be repeated. Today the dynamic force in our political life no longer comes from the liberals who made the New Deal possible. By 1952 the liberals had had at least the trappings of power for twenty years. They could look back to a brief, exciting period in the mid-thirties when they had held power itself and had been able to transform the economic and administrative life of the nation. After twenty years the New Deal liberals have quite unconsciously taken on the psychology of those who have entered into possession. Moreover, a large part of the New Deal public, the jobless, distracted and bewildered men of 1933, have in the course of the years found substantial places in society for themselves, have become home-owners, suburbanites and solid citizens. Many of them still keep the emotional commitments to the liberal dissent with which they grew up politically, but their social position is one of solid comfort. Among them the dominant tone has become one of satisfaction, even of a kind of conservatism. Insofar as Adlai Stevenson won their enthusiasm in 1952, it was not in spite of, but in part because of the air of poised and reliable conservatism that he brought to the Democratic convention. By comparison, Harry Truman’s impassioned rhetoric, with its occasional thrusts at “Wall Street,” seemed passé and rather embarrassing. The change did not escape Stevenson himself. “The strange alchemy of time,” he said in a speech at Columbus, “has somehow converted the Democrats into the truly conservative party of this country — the party dedicated to conserving all that is best, and building solidly and safely on these foundations.” The most that the old liberals can now envisage is not to carry on with some ambitious new program, but simply to defend as much as possible of the old achievements and to try to keep traditional liberties of expression that are threatened.

There is, however, a dynamic of dissent in America today. Representing no more than a modest fraction of the electorate, it is not so powerful as the liberal dissent of the New Deal era, but it is powerful enough to set the tone of our political life and to establish throughout the country a kind of punitive reaction. The new dissent is certainly not radical — there are hardly any radicals of any sort left — nor is it precisely conservative. Unlike most of the liberal dissent of the past, the new dissent not only has no respect for non-conformism, but is based upon a relentless demand for conformity. It can most accurately be called pseudo-conservative — I borrow the term from the study of The Authoritarian Personality published five years ago by Theodore W. Adorno and his associates — because its exponents, although they believe themselves to be conservatives and usually employ the rhetoric of conservatism, show signs of a serious and restless dissatisfaction with American life, traditions and institutions. They have little in common with the temperate and compromising spirit of true conservatism in the classical sense of the word, and they are far from pleased with the dominant practical conservatism of the moment as it is represented by the Eisenhower Administration. Their political reactions express rather a profound if largely unconscious hatred of our society and its ways — a hatred which one would hesitate to impute to them if one did not have suggestive clinical evidence.

From clinical interviews and thematic apperception tests, Adorno and his co-workers found that their pseudo-conservative subjects, although given to a form of political expression that combines a curious mixture of largely conservative with occasional radical notions, succeed in concealing from themselves impulsive tendencies that, if released in action, would be very far from conservative.


The highlighted part is the important part, it states the "pseudo-conservative" is a small fraction of the population. There is another, large population of true conservatives which you must have overlooked.

You see, even that author recognized that the "pseudo-conservative" is not the norm, but a fringe element like radicals we see today. Leaving that part out makes your quote of the rest of the article seem accurate but it doesn't show the whole picture. This is a common trait of someone that cherry-picks information that supports their opinion. Lots of people do that, but if you want to be intellectually honest you take ALL of the information available and process it together before forming your opinion.

Can I have the cookie instead?



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 05:15 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: spiritualarchitect

You're giving Obama far, far too much credit.

He has no strongly held beliefs, other than in his own superiority.


I believe the OP would say that stemmed from Obama's self worth being destroyed during his childhood... or some such comment pulled from the anus and waved around for the forum to see.

edit on 10-2-2020 by burdman30ott6 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: spiritualarchitect

You're giving Obama far, far too much credit.

He has no strongly held beliefs, other than in his own superiority.


I believe the OP would say that stemmed from Obama's self worth being destroyed during his childhood... or some such comment pulled from the anus and waved around for the forum to see.


First off...Kudos for using the words "Obama" and "pulled from the anus" in the same sentence.

Secondly, the OP is engaging in a classic example of Leftist narcissistic projection.



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 05:23 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Secondly, the OP is engaging in a classic example of Leftist narcissistic projection.


Obviously, but it's entertaining me so I continue to poke it with a stick in the same manner as a toddler would poke the eyeball of a roadkill raccoon.



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 05:25 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

This is what confuses me.

Any democrat candidate running will not be able to win unless he/she garner independent votes, democrat votes, and even some republican votes.

There just aren't enough leftists to insure a win.

Yet time and time again, leftist candidates and the leftists insist on calling us mindless followers, slinging insults like it was "Poo Time" at the monkey cage.

And they expect that their arrogance, elitism will win over independents because they say that we are all too stupid to not see how wonderful socialism is!



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 05:27 PM
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a reply to: Oblique9043

Are you suggesting that Marxists and left wing internationalists were completely blameless and in no way attempted to overthrow any government in which they were involved?

Also, of course Leo Lowenthal would write glorified toilet paper like this. This is the same Frankfurt School social theory garbage being forced down the throats of our most vulnerable in universities.



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 05:39 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Narcissus looked into the water and fell so in love with his own reflection...he fell in and drowned.
So, too, do Leftists fall in so in love with the false image of socialism they, themselves, create (which nobody but them can see)...that they ultimately end up sinking themselves.

Hillary's 'winning' polls were, yet, another poignant example of the Left's terminal narcissism.


Moral Of The Story: In the end...Leftists will always come up as 'all wet', losers.



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 05:43 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy
I'm interesting in seeing what percentage of attendees at President Trump's New Hampshire rally tonight are Democrats and Independents. It has averaged about 28% to 35% thus far.

Amazingly, ABC World News Tonight just did a segment showing all the people who waited over 24 hours for President Trump's rally in Snow/Rain... and how packed the 14,000-person arena is right at this moment.



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

When does Trump start speaking tonight?



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 05:55 PM
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a reply to: HalWesten

There were a small minority in 1955...

They are now Trumps base and are running the country.

And you must have missed this part, at the end.




These considerations suggest that the pseudo-conservative political style, while it may already have passed the peak of its influence, is one of the long waves of twentieth-century American history and not a momentary mood. I do not share the widespread foreboding among liberals that this form of dissent will grow until it overwhelms our liberties altogether and plunges us into a totalitarian nightmare. Indeed, the idea that it is purely and simply fascist or totalitarian, as we have known these things in recent European history, is to my mind a false conception, based upon the failure to read American developments in terms of our peculiar American constellation of political realities. (It reminds me of the people who, because they found several close parallels between the NRA and Mussolini’s corporate state, were once deeply troubled at the thought that the NRA was the beginning of American fascism.) However, in a populistic culture like ours, which seems to lack a responsible elite with political and moral autonomy, and in which it is possible to exploit the wildest currents of public sentiment for private purposes, it is at least conceivable that a highly organized, vocal, active and well-financed minority could create a political climate in which the rational pursuit of our well-being and safety would become impossible.

edit on 10-2-2020 by Oblique9043 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: seagull

I didnt vote for Hilary but nice try. This narrative of butthurt losers is pure projection from the Obama haters and its hilarious.



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 06:01 PM
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a reply to: Oblique9043

No comment on the Trump aspect....but my God if that doesn't sound like Barack Obama in the first paragraph.



The one thing I can say: Trumps policies absolutely do put America first. The Strauss-Howe Generational Theory predicted someone like Trump. We spent the prior 20 years heavy in international wars and seeing socialist policies being pursued. We are currently 3 years into the "awakening" portion of the cycle (maybe even 10 years, as push back against Obama policies seem to be a turning).

One more thing I can say: call him a liar or not...he does what he says he is going to do. NOne of this "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" lying that the prior 8 years forced us to learn to live with.

Last point Ill make: all politicians have used propagandized techniques to control public opinion. Especially once we gained access to the knowledge of the nazi's. We used to have a law against that kind of stuff...it was repealed (Smith-Mundt). I keep railing about the need to reinstate it, or something stronger than it was, to help stop this nonsense. While there should be a separation of church and state, there should also be a separation between media and state. From lies reported as truth, to the revolving door between former government work and media, to the US Army funding FPS games to drive recruitment. All of it needs to stop.



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 06:02 PM
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originally posted by: Oblique9043
a reply to: seagull

I didnt vote for Hilary but nice try. This narrative of butthurt losers is pure projection from the Obama haters and its hilarious.


A whole lot of people who DID vote for Obama, voted for Trump and will again.



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 06:03 PM
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Gays, trannys, Muslims, immigrants, women, young people, blacks

You name it

People from ALL races sexes colors and creeds voted for Trump and his policies

And will again
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posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 06:11 PM
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originally posted by: jjkenobi
A con job? The USA is improving in everything the 3 years Trump has been in office. The people have noticed. Jobs, wages, economy, all booming.

Biden, Bernie, etc have been in elected office for decades and haven't fixed anything.

Bernie's only ever had 3 bills he introduced passed into law, and two of them are just to rename a POST OFFICE!!!! The dude is completely worthless.



S.893 Introduced 5/8/13. The Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013 which became law in November 2013

S.885 Introduced 5/7/13. A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 35 Park Street in Danville, Vermont, as the “Thaddeus Stevens Post Office” became law in November 2014.

H.R.5245 Introduced 4/27/06. To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1 Marble Street in Fair Haven, Vermont, as the “Matthew Lyon Post Office Building” became law in August 2006.


That's what I was thinking, all the Democrats trying to get the nomination keep spewing what they are going to do when they win, they don't want us to think about how long they have been in DC and how little they have actually done to help the average person.
They have had decades in some cases to do something but most cities run by Democrats are a complete mess.
President Trump is not a politician and stand and tell us about the things that he has actually done in only three years enen with the nonstop attacks from the left and the MSM .



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 06:13 PM
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originally posted by: Oblique9043
a reply to: HalWesten

There were a small minority in 1955...

They are now Trumps base and are running the country.

And you must have missed this part, at the end.




These considerations suggest that the pseudo-conservative political style, while it may already have passed the peak of its influence, is one of the long waves of twentieth-century American history and not a momentary mood. I do not share the widespread foreboding among liberals that this form of dissent will grow until it overwhelms our liberties altogether and plunges us into a totalitarian nightmare. Indeed, the idea that it is purely and simply fascist or totalitarian, as we have known these things in recent European history, is to my mind a false conception, based upon the failure to read American developments in terms of our peculiar American constellation of political realities. (It reminds me of the people who, because they found several close parallels between the NRA and Mussolini’s corporate state, were once deeply troubled at the thought that the NRA was the beginning of American fascism.) However, in a populistic culture like ours, which seems to lack a responsible elite with political and moral autonomy, and in which it is possible to exploit the wildest currents of public sentiment for private purposes, it is at least conceivable that a highly organized, vocal, active and well-financed minority could create a political climate in which the rational pursuit of our well-being and safety would become impossible.


No, because at that point the author of the article, who has already been exposed as a Leftist by previous posters, lets his agenda drive the rest of his article.

Nope, not buying it.



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: Oblique9043

I could not possibly care less about who you voted for. As for your not voting for Hillary--Well done!!

You are, indeed, a sore loser. You don't like the electoral college because Orange Man Bad, though you try, emphasis on try, to couch it in pseudo-intellectual verbiage.



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 06:51 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Not sure what that to do with the accuracy describing the pseudo conservative.

I find it fascinating how politically charged you Americans are, your unique as far as the western world goes.



posted on Feb, 10 2020 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

The Constitution was written in order for us to have a direct say in our government.

I know that's not the case now, we the people, our power has been diluted over time, but we still dream.




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