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originally posted by: Oblique9043
a reply to: Breakthestreak
So there is no scenario where you can see him and his supporters not accepting the results of the election?
originally posted by: Breakthestreak
a reply to: Oblique9043
I would accept the result.
I don’t think his supporters are the same people cNn thinks they are.
The “REEEEEEEEEE” crowd is the crowd who will not accept election results
All that said, how in Earth do we step back from this brink?
This is way off topic, but option #3, a peaceful split, would make an interesting separate thread.
originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Oblique9043
Where to go from there? Otherwise our choices are 1)failed state 2)civil war 3)peaceful split
I'd be OK with option 3, but it's be handing China and our many other enemies (Russia, Maduro, North Korea, etc) a huge win
Our nation is so evenly divided politically, and increasingly partisan, that I wonder if the union of states is becoming unworkable, impractical. If the party that doesn’t hold the presidency automatically rejects every proposal by the latter and vice versa, we’ve become ungovernable. Then again, rapidly changing demographics and omnipresent brainwashing of kids these days points to a significant majority of liberal, progressive and minority voters in the near future. That’ll break the gridlock and the left will get its way on most things. Fortunately, I’ll be gone by then and won’t have to see what becomes of America.
originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Oblique9043
Correct, liberals generally are a decent bunch from my own observations
It is radical authoritarian communists/socialist (like antifa) and a small group of bitter loudmouths attacking conservatives.
Our response has been quite muted simply because we know exactly what is at stake. But make no mistake, don't take our thoughtfulness for complacency or weakness
When it gets down to it, we are well armed and in many cases well trained/equipped. Luckily, we will only fight and win for our Constitution and not some petty political dispute or a handful of violent acts by a handful of provocative morons
That said, we are unified we are cohesive and we will respond to any threat foreign or domestic against our nation, our Constitution and our Republic.
We won't disarm, ever for any reason.
We won't stop telling inconvenient truths.
We won't stop protecting and defending our Constitution and our Bill of Rights against any person or group or government threatening it
...and we won't defend ourselves, as a group, until we're given no other choice.
So what is there to do? Will Dems abandon their attempts to attack gun rights as they exist today? Will Dems decry socialism and reject communism? Will they agree to leave our Bill of Rights alone? That isn't asking for much
I truly believe the right and left are simply incompatible at this point. This will be exemplified by the next election, when we not only keep the Presidency and Senate but possibly take the House back
The ball is and will be in their court. What will they do with it?
Agreed. The vast majority of conservatives aren’t revolutionaries, but neither were the colonists who revolted against Britain until they had taken all they could stand. It would take a terrible provocation to incite us into widespread violence, and losing a presidential election fair and square ain’t one of them. Now if there were clear evidence of massive cheating, well ... maybe. But I doubt even that would do it. We mostly just want to live our lives and would be happy to forget all about politics and social issues. However, these are different times we live in; hopefully not interesting times.
originally posted by: Breakthestreak
originally posted by: Oblique9043
a reply to: Breakthestreak
So there is no scenario where you can see him and his supporters not accepting the results of the election?
No
There is no scenario where ‘Trump supporters’ or Trump himself would not accept free and fair election results
Trump and his supporters are most definitely the adults in the room
originally posted by: Scapegrace
This is way off topic, but option #3, a peaceful split, would make an interesting separate thread.
originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Oblique9043
Where to go from there? Otherwise our choices are 1)failed state 2)civil war 3)peaceful split
I'd be OK with option 3, but it's be handing China and our many other enemies (Russia, Maduro, North Korea, etc) a huge win