Of 138 Hospitalized Patients in Wuhan with nCoV 41% were infected IN the Hospital

a reply to: FredT

I look at it like this. China has to contain this disease 99 percent in their quarenteen zones. If they dont then they wont be able to stop it from spreading throughout their entire country. That's an almost impossible feat. So therefore it's only a matter of time until Pandora's box is opened.

Then, once it infects the entire nation of China, we as in the rest of the world has to keep the entire country of China...1.4 BILLION PEOPLE under quarantine indefinitely....yeah effing right like that's gonna happen!

This virus WILL make it's way around the world.
Our only hope is to hope we find a cure in time. But by the looks of it, this disease is a bioengineered weapon of mass destruction that has either been accidentally or purposefully released (either way the cat is out of the bag) so a vaccine isn't happening any time soon.

Now is the time start stockpiling canned goods and water. By the time everyone else starts to think about stockpiling it's already too late. Just pray that you live long enough to be able to eat your canned goods.

The media tries to downplay this as if it is just another SARS disease but ask yourself this, why is there more people in quarantine than there ever has been in the entire history of the world? Take account the entire population of the United state's top 50 most populated cities and it still wont add up to how many people are currently under quarantine in China.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

Exactly, your not going to find N95's now. You had to have them already. We are in earthquake country and we are and have been prepared and your basic natural disaster loadout will do nicely. The add pandemic gear is not expensive or hard if you do it ahead of time

These types of events just add more proof to the mountain of proof that humans are not meant to live the way we do. We do not have natural defenses against things like this because we are not meant to live in such close quarters and large numbers (the two combined are a double whammy). And also, of course, you have a hard time living in society without mingling with thousands of strangers every day of your life. Humans were meant to live in small groups with lots of room to spare.

Nature did not prepare the human body for this because it didn't know it needed to.

Hospital beds? Let me ask a serious question "what makes a hospital bed so special for this virus, no known cure, so hospital bed used only to make the patient comfortable. ie. oxygen if needed etc."?
We, in the UK, have a very serious problem of bed blocking. To put it bluntly, that is when, mainly old people, get taken in hospital with an injury or infection. They get treated but do not need Hospital care. They need social care but not hospital care and because there are no places for them to go to be looked after (not medical but personal) they remain in hospital taking a bed that should be used for medical needs.
Now back to the original question. Being as the only thing a hospital can do is isolation and personal care and in that event the bed can be anywhere ie. FEMA centres. So in that situation how many hospitals do you need. As said before a hospital is just a building, it's the staffing that's going to be the problem.

a reply to: FredT

One of the worse places to be to pick up a virus of some kind is at a hospital or doctors surgery!

So... if you are unwell, maybe it's just a common cld and you should stay away.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

This is going to get out. I don't think it's going to go back into obscurity.

I think the best hope it either come up with an effective treatment to ease one's course the first time they get it if needed, or to come up with a vaccine that confers at least partial immunity to it.

Right now, the hope should be that it can be contained enough that it trickles through the rest of the world in a manner where we can control it so that we don't get the massive epidemics we see in China. If we can control the rate of illness and infections to levels where the medical infrastructure can cope, then we can hopefully ride out this first wave in much better shape than China.

Let's be real, they were behind the curve from the start because they had to play catch up and they are so determined to try to hide what's going on that they may be making things worse.

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

That should be the first lesson. If you are in an area where this is circulating, don't go unless you need to, especially if it's for something that isn't corona virus or may not be.

originally posted by: rickymouse

We used to have two pretty good size hospitals here, but the Ishpeming one was replaced and the new one only has maybe ten beds or so. Then the big Marquette hospital was replaced with a new one with less beds again. If we had a pandemic we are Fukushima'ed. Well, it isn't far from China.

Tents... Works for the military...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: rickymouse

We used to have two pretty good size hospitals here, but the Ishpeming one was replaced and the new one only has maybe ten beds or so. Then the big Marquette hospital was replaced with a new one with less beds again. If we had a pandemic we are Fukushima'ed. Well, it isn't far from China.

Tents... Works for the military...

We live in the U.P. of michigan, when viruses are flying around, usually the snowbanks are six feet high. We can get eighteen inches of snow in one night, you would have to have a full time person brushing off the tent roofs or they would collapse.

a reply to: FredT

So China is reporting its airborne.

How do you think this changes things?

Also you should hit that thread up with yo info.

What frequency eradicates this type of virus level🤔

Scientists may one day be able to destroy viruses in the same way that opera singers presumably shatter wine glasses. New research mathematically determined the frequencies at which simple viruses could be shaken to death.

"The capsid of a virus is something like the shell of a turtle," said physicist Otto Sankey of Arizona State University. "If the shell can be compromised [by mechanical vibrations], the virus can be inactivated."

Recent experimental evidence has shown that laser pulses tuned to the right frequency can kill certain viruses. However, locating these so-called resonant frequencies is a bit of trial and error.

"Experiments must just try a wide variety of conditions and hope that conditions are found that can lead to success," Sankey told LiveScience.


To expedite this search, Sankey and his student Eric Dykeman have developed a way to calculate the vibrational motion of every atom in a virus shell. From this, they can determine the lowest resonant frequencies.

As an example of their technique, the team modeled the satellite tobacco necrosis virus and found this small virus resonates strongly around 60 Gigahertz (where one Gigahertz is a billion cycles per second), as reported in the Jan. 14 issue of Physical Review Letters.

A virus' death knell

All objects have resonant frequencies at which they naturally oscillate.

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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

Not exactly sure if we can post other forums here, but try looking up RIFE. I would not be surprised if people are discussing what works and does not work on the flu.

a reply to: FredT

I'm shocked I say.

Shocked.

Ironically, a hospital is probably the worst place to be if you're ill.

Remember MERS?

And TB, Legionnaires and of course pneumonia...