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What early training? How much of it came from that few moments of school prayer.
You kind of admit, that at that age, ita more about learning the rituals. So, what is the point of encouraging, coercing, trying to force kids into a ritual if you cant provide a basis around it?
Or promote your vacation bible school to them or much of anything else.
Heck why even try to get women into your church if you are just gonna tell them they need their husbands approval to go? Maybe spend less time worrying about 5, 6, 7 year olds salvation and more on their daddies since it seems the religion would prefer that the men have the power over all in the family?
The school cant prevent a child from prayer either.
That idea does not support either of our views. You are worried that children will be worried they will be punished if they pray it seems just as reasonable that kids will worry that they will be if they dont at least pretend to be praying during your moment of prayer.
Ain't saying some nitpicking jerk hasn't saw fit to complain, but I dont think they would have gotten that far with the courts as long as they weren't causing a disturbance and were following school policies, which the only one that might would be the clothing.
There is just as much money going into those groups that exist solely to represent Christians when they feel their rights have been infringed that the aclu, which have been known to take these cases also.
heck, I dont think there would be a legal problem even if they sent home a list of acceptable activities for the time of preparation that listed silent individual prayer as an option among many.
I guess it's been too long since my kids were in school to know just what all this indoctrination is. Like I said, I read through their textbooks, looked at every paper they brought home, and met with everyone of their teachers quite a few times a year.
I imagine that the your kids school didnt just ban chistian slogans on clothing. They probably had a nice long list of stuff they didnt want worn in school.
Yes, the aclu was involved In the case.
Well, kids cant pray in school is a false statement.
"Nothing in this Constitution shall be construed to prohibit individual or group prayer in public schools or other public institutions. No person shall be required by the United States or by any State to participate in prayer. Neither the United States nor any State shall compose the words of any prayer to be said in public schools."
originally posted by: TheRedneck
I get it; we all know the people who wear their religion on their sleeve and think it is their sole purpose in life to convert anyone and everyone they meet. I don't like people like that. The words in my Bible tell me ... My Bible tells me ... No, I profess my faith through my silent but steadfast belief in God and the works I do that God wishes to be seen. ...
... purpose in life to convert anyone and everyone they meet. I don't like people like that.
19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”
I don't think silence is a particularly effective tactic to observe that commandment
Try not to get too annoyed with some people or what some other people are doing, this can become dangerous to what's going on in your heart without you realizing what's going on there, the heart can be treacherous like that.
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: whereislogic
And yet, how many people have we seen, like some in this very thread, who observe the teachings but not the silent works and are offended?
How often does hypocrisy invade the church, and teach not the blessings of a life in Christ but rather the loathsome burden of following teachings in word but not deed?
I speak not of silence, but of sincere observance.