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The Faux Faith of Nancy Pelosi and Mitt Romney

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posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 09:26 AM
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OK, need to get this off my chest...

The last few days I have been the recipient of Nancy Pelosi's claims she doesn't hate Trump and prays for him fervently because she is a Catholic... the whole time exuding a seething rage that is so blatantly obvious to me that I don't see how anyone could miss it. I watched Mitt Romney claim he voted to remove my vote for President because doing otherwise would be going against his faith in God. Now, we have freedom of religion here, something I hold very dear. That's fine if they want to find religion and express their religious views... except that both of these people have been at the forefront of the push to remove religion from American society!

Now they are preaching to me.

I get it; we all know the people who wear their religion on their sleeve and think it is their sole purpose in life to convert anyone and everyone they meet. I don't like people like that. The words in my Bible tell me that allegiance to God is something that is personal, a bond between two spirits that is mutual and exercised of free will. My Bible tells me that humility is a good thing and haughtiness a bad thing. So I don't go around screaming at others about how they will go to Hell if they don't believe what I do... if there is one true God, then why can't He speak to His children in different ways? Who am I to say He cannot have whatever relationship with others He chooses? No, I profess my faith through my silent but steadfast belief in God and the works I do that God wishes to be seen.

However, I do know this: God wishes harm on no one. When harm comes, it comes from those who have aligned themselves with Lucifer, against God's desires. When God allows this to happen, there is always a greater good God wishes to accomplish. So I have that one yardstick with which to try every spirit: if their faith is true, they as well will wish no evil on others.

Jesus found me back 25-30 years or so ago, and I have been a Christian ever since. I am not perfect; far from it. I was raised in church, and like so many, rejected it because I saw nothing there but strife and anger and pain. But since that day He found me, a lost soul looking for something I wasn't even sure existed, I have spent that time being in a personal relationship with Him, looking for truth in His words, trying to understand His meanings, and learning to accept His will. During that time, I cannot count the number of times I have watched organizations supported by these two fight tooth and nail to prevent children from praying in school, stopping prayer at events, even going so far as to demand that everything that could possibly have a Christian context be removed from any location where someone might accidentally see it. When one pulls up crosses along the roadside because it is offensive to allow others to memorialize their loved ones, one is not following God.

But now, the same people who supported all this are telling me how to pray and how to trust in God. And those who have been the instigators of hatred of everything Christian are applauding them for their "moral" actions.

I don't think so.

So, Mitt Romney, take your "faith" and shove it where the sun don't shine. Pelosi, keep your "faith" in the church where you go through your little rituals thinking they're impressing someone. Your arrogance disgusts me. All you two have done is show me how little you believe and how weak your faith is. And how absolutely despicable and deplorable you really are beneath the skin.

My God's ways are above the ways of man. My God considers all mankind His children... even you... even Adolph Hitler! But my God also knows that some of His children will try to harm the rest. That does not please Him. That angers Him. It is an abomination to God to falsely claim spiritual superiority with God while hating God's children. The words of God in my Bible tell us to be humble, gracious, and forgiving whenever possible... but your words are self-serving, egotistical, and hateful.

Matthew 7:22-23 speaks of you:

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

And so I say unto you, oh ye who claim to know God's will while defiling His Holy Name, depart from me; for I do know you as I know Satan, the Enemy... as I know the one who deceives and maketh desolate... as I know an abomination to the Word of God. Ye are dead inside, dead as the angels who have fallen from Heaven and now live with you, deceiving you to do their will. Ye have made your choice, and it is not God. Your words are as ashes on the wind, fruitless and without purpose. I pray you turn from your evil ways, convict yourself lest ye be convicted by God, accept Him and His ways, that death may not take power over you. You still have time to save yourself.

But do not insult my intelligence, nor my God by your false claims. You know nothing of faith; your deeds defy your words, and your words insult me and the God I call Lord, Savior, and Friend.

Amen.

TheRedneck




posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

given the core beliefs of the Catholic faith, its hard to believe for me that anyone other than the most secular Catholic can support abortion.

On a side note, my 65 year old aunt just converted to Mormon faith. She is a very intelligent woman (started and sold 3 businesses, before getting into her last one about 30 years ago and opening several locations, most of which still operate). I just can't get my head around that decision. She is an accomplished artist (with quite a few awards for various types of media ranging from pottery to painting to photography), business woman, and overall human being. How did she bite the mormon hook?

So now i have to stop making fun of mormons in my inner family discussions and chats.



posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 09:35 AM
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There is this - for those that hadn't seen it or forgot about it

FLASH BACK - Nancy Pelosi, Boasting of her Devout Catholic faith, is a Heretic


Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and Catholic faith

It is time to take the verbal gloves off once again - especially, as the 2016 election campaign begins in the United States of America. It must be said that Nancy Pelosi is engaging in more than scandal. She is engaging in the "obstinate denial of truths which must be believed by every Catholic Christian". In other words, she is engaging in heresy.......

Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi was interviewed last year by Thomas Roberts of MSNBC. Mr. Roberts openly engages in homosexual acts and wedded his homosexual paramour in 2012. Pelosi boasted of having brought her grandchildren to watch when she received an award from the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund. She told Roberts she wanted the children to know that marriage between two men or two women was consistent with Catholic teaching. ......

For her own salvation as well as the good reputation of the Catholic Church, and, in the interest of offering clarification to the broader Christian community, it is time to say with clarity and charity, Nancy Pelosi, though publicly boasting of her devout Catholic Faith, is a heretic. I sincerely hope she acknowledges her obstinate denial of truths which must be believed by every Catholic soon. However, until then, the truth needs to be told.


And no I am not Catholic - but I find it amusing


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posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 09:38 AM
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It has been my experience that people
who loudly claim to be guided by their faith are usually the ones who have the hardest time abiding by its guidelines.

I.e. 10 commandments. For some reason Romney, Pelosi, Schiff, etc. Seem to have zero regard for acting in manner befitting the "values" they hold others to.

Same type of people seem to have problems with amendments, as well as oaths....

Maybe it's just a numbers/directions problem they have.

Or maybe they are just awful bastards who lie through their teeth, while using everything to their advantage.



posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 09:44 AM
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Making religious claims will have no impact on the coming elections. The battle lines are drawn. Only place to pull voters from at this point are the campuses with free education parades.

Trump is trying to counter it by focusing on black voters more. Hard to say if it will work. He will need to boost it by 10% IMO. Tall order.



posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 09:48 AM
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Bargain basement hypocrites, no need to overthink it where either of these people are concerned.

Like sunday-morning baptist fresh off the saturday night bus back from the out of state casinos. Hoping to cross the Hardees parking lot before Brother Jim passes by.

If you ARE it, BE it..or don't preach to the rest of us, Mr. and Mrs hypocrite.



posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

Those 2 are using religion and people's faith. It used to work 200 years ago, but not today.

Pelosi is not praying to God and she has no clue about her own religion.


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would have us believe that the Catholic Church was not always opposed to abortion. And she says this while admitting that she has studied the subject for a long time. Perhaps she should take time out to read what the Catholic Catechism says.

“Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable.”


Romney is even worse. Mormons I know support President Trump and don't like him.

He thinks he's part of a weird prophecy called "The White Horse Prophecy".


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The White Horse Prophecy is the popular name of an influential but disputed version of a statement on the future of the Latter Day Saints (popularly called Mormons) and the United States. It was given by Edwin Rushton, in about 1900, and supposedly made in 1843 by Joseph Smith, Jr., the founder of the Latter Day Saint movement.[1]

The Latter Day Saints, according to Rushton's version, would "go to the Rocky Mountains and... be a great and mighty people," associated in the prophecy's figurative language, with one of the biblical four Horsemen of the Apocalypse in the Book of Revelation.

Smith's supposed original statement predicts that the US Constitution will one day "hang like a thread" but be saved by Latter-day Saints. The embellished version portrays it to be "by the efforts of the White Horse."


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posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

I'm seeing for the first time, right not pandering to the left anymore.. It's time to push back, the left have no faith, only lies and deceit from their rabid mouths and ring leaders, what's scary is they have been listening to it and believing it this long. World war 3 won't happen until these cry baby, against the 1st amendment, I'll yell or blow a whistle in your face liars are dealt with.. I've seen more push back everyday of people getting sick and tired of listening to the filth, satire and just plain stupidity spewing from their mouths.. We've seen time and time again the left trying to silence anyone who doesn't believe in their mindset or ways.

It's time to take our country back. I'm sick of it.

Disgruntled tax paying US citizen who has had enough.



posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 09:56 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I refuse to make fun of Mormons.

I tutored a young man once who was having trouble in math. In the year or so I helped him out, I learned that his family was Mormon. Now, it was obvious the day I walked in their home for the first time they were religious... no biggie, a lot of people are religious around here, and they never tried to "convert" me or anything. Live and let live. Then one day I was discussing the boy with his mother and she was apologizing for the "mess" (the place was actually nice, I thought) and she mentioned they were Mormon and hadn't had time to clean up since their Bible Study.

The whole time I was involved with them, they never were obnoxious, condescending, or anything else I have heard about Mormons. I still see them in town from time to time, and I always say "hello" with a smile on my face. They're good people. The boy I helped is now considering going back to college for a STEM degree... which makes me proud as all get out.

It's not the religion; it's the people. I grew up Southern Baptist... oh, the horror stories I could tell you about the "holy rollers" I have met! I went to a Church of God once to support my kids (I let them choose their church; my place was to just let them know I was a Christian and to show by my actions that I was serious about it). One of the regulars came up to me and asked, "Do you know where you're going after you die?"

I answered, "Nope! No idea! Not worried about it." I gave her a moment while I enjoyed the shocked look on her face, then added:

"I let my 'travel agent' handle all that for me. I trust Him. Maybe you've heard of Him? His name is Christ Jesus of Nazareth."

She just dropped her head and walked away mumbling...

TheRedneck



posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

People have said, "You can't belong to the democrat party unless you believe in ________".

Look at the people on this site that said Tulsi can't be a democrat because she didn't vote to impeach Trump.

Can you be a Catholic but believe in abortion?

Can you be a Republican and vote to oust Trump?

There are so many inconsistencies here that it's hard to keep track.



posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 09:59 AM
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In US politics, religion sells.

There is a vast difference between religion and genuine faith, particularly between religion and faith that is centered in the core doctrines of orthodox Christianity and faith in Christ. The former is a plague. It is used to control people, to manipulate that masses, and to lift up people. The latter renews hearts and transforms lives through the intervening power of God's grace in Christ.

I can easily believe that Nancy is very religious. She likely does pray for Donald Trump on a regular basis; however I suspect that her prayers involve black candles, chants and dead chickens.



posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 10:15 AM
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In America, you can be call yourself a _________ and still believe anything you want. We call it "Freedom of Religion." You can also insult anyone you want. We call that "Freedom of Speech."

But we also have the right to call someone out for saying something that is obviously not true. More "Freedom of Speech."

I don't care if she goes to a Catholic Church every Sunday... I am actually glad to hear that, as maybe she'll hear something she needs desperately to hear. I don't care if Romney attends a Mormon Tabernacle... good for him. But I do care when these same people defy their chosen faith by their actions and then claim to be righteous and faithful. I'll call that crap out every time I see it. They're no better than the Westboro Baptist Church... their actions were antithetical to their stated religion, too, and I called them out every time. I also mourned when their preacher died... he was still a child of God and died a lost soul. His time (probably) ran out before he could redeem himself. That's the difference between me and him: he rejoiced when people died lost.

And here is the difference between me and the two blasphemers I called out. My faith is with me every moment of every day; it is never forgotten or forsaken. Even in anger, that voice in the back of my head is admonishing me. Their proclamation of faith only shows up when it helps them personally... and that is not faith. It is an insulting lie.

TheRedneck



posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 10:18 AM
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I used to listen to Kenneth Copeland on Sunday (I tend to swing between whichever preacher is sounding most Biblical to me, and prefer TV to attendance so I insult less people). He said something one day that has stuck with me:

"The biggest problem God has getting people into heaven is religion."

True words. Damn true words.

TheRedneck



posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 10:20 AM
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What about the false faith of about 99% of the other elected officials? Why cherry pick 2?(I know it's because of the impeachment)

They are liars and will pretend to pray to whatever God their constituents worship.

That said, I would say Mitt Romney is one of the few who are genuine to their religion. The Mormon community would call him out if he was not. I applaud his vote against Trump. He was truly voting for what he thought was right, not what is popular with the Republican voters.
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posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 10:29 AM
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I find their lack of faith disturbing.


Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbor’s.


But what do I know...



posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: jrod

www.youtube.com...
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posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 10:33 AM
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a reply to: jrod


What about the false faith of about 99% of the other elected officials? Why cherry pick 2?

Because, as I explained, these are two who have vociferously voiced their support for anti-Christian organizations and who now have decided to profess the same "faith" they have spent a lifetime attacking without even acknowledging their previous attacks. I don't care what the political issue is; it probably was over the impeachment, because they both know that by trying to remove the votes of the American people, they are in desperate need of support.

There are probably many others who do similar; I have no doubt of that. But they're not in my face right now being complete hypocrites. If someone else does the same, I will call them out the same way. Being a Trump hater is not protection from being called out.


He was truly voting for what he thought was right, not what is popular with the Republican voters.

He voted to disallow Americans from electing their President.

Damn straight that's popular with Republican voters... it should be popular with all voters. Only a certain segment of Democrat voters apparently think they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

And from what I have seen, they may be right... for themselves anyway.

TheRedneck



posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

Making fun is just recounting that South Park episode.

Otherwise, i've never met a mormon i didn't like. Well adjusted, happy people that seem to have found peace in this crappy world. The same reason I support Christians, while not being a Christian myself....people should be allowed to find peace without being shamed for it.

My house is full of heathens, except my mom. And even she acknowledges the extreme shortcomings of the Christian church. We both spend plenty of time discussing how disgusting some of the behaviors of the church and their faithful can be. But i'd never want to stomp out someones faith, even bad people. Maybe it can be a road to peace for them one day.

For me...im fine being my own higher power. Its worked well for me for decades.



posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 10:53 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

Trump lost the popular vote in 2016...more than half of the country does not approve of Trump and his politics. In the past 50 years or so, it has been the Republican party who has done the most gerrymandering and stratagized other ways to suppress mostly minority votes, so it is ironic that you think the Democrats are the ones who want to suppress votes.
Top Trump adviser: Republicans have 'always' relied on voter suppression

Republican Voter Suppression Efforts Are Targeting Minorities, Journalist Says

Republicans escalate their strategy to repress voters

Furthermore his policies are far from Christian-like, and I am flabbergasted by the support he gets from evangelicals.

Hopefully this will motivate more voters to turn out in November. I feel like Trump's voter base is capped, that is almost everyone who supports him will vote in November, while the rest of us who want him out are less likely to be registered to vote.
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posted on Feb, 7 2020 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

If you ask most churches around here, I'm a heathen. I read the book and try to figure out what it means, instead of sitting the front pew and yelling "Amen!" when prompted. That's a good reason why I always look to my own inner guidance when someone shows themselves to be so hypocritical. Another statement Kenneth Copeland made that stuck with me: "When you get to Heaven, don't be surprised if Adolph Hitler is there. If he truly repented and begged Jesus for forgiveness the second before his death, he made it. That's all it takes."

Now, I don't think he'll be there, but the idea is that each person decides, not us... and our place is to accept that, because God's desire is for everyone to show up in Heaven.

TheRedneck




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