46 Presidents and the astrology of Sirius and Alnilam.

I am going to go through all the Presidents with Birth Charts and Death Charts using two methods being projected fixed star measure and paran measure.
Parans in birth charts use the start of the day which can be ancient Greek day marker, which is sunset previous to date, modern midnight, or ancient Egyptian day marker being sunrise.
Astrologers do have heated debate regarding the use of projected fixed stars or parans, i like parans as it is the oldest form of astrology and is accurate to astronomy, the debate can be shown below:-
astrologeratlarge.com...
Next i will start posting about George Washington, please ask questions as we go along, i have no wish to post too much jargon to start with, i'll be back soon.

I'm going to list all U.S. Presidents that have a connection to Sirius and Alnilam, either by birth or death, and in doing so, will be using Astro Databank, so will have connections to Lois Rodden.


George Washington's Birth Chart shows no connection to these stars, however when he died he left a will that stated he wanted his grave in a new tomb on his estate of Mount Vernon.


Washington DC politicians wanted him to be buried in the Capitol, and it took a long time to build the new tomb in Mount Vernon, eventually he was taken out of the old tomb and placed in the new one on 7th October 1837, where he is now:-
www.georgewashington.org...
George Washington has an interesting pair of obelisks outside his tomb, very Egyptian!
www.mountvernon.org...



Astronomy graph below, as Sun set on day Sirius was on the Nadir or I.C.,
He was probably buried as the sun set.

Flagg dad...But no astrology round these parts.....Yes it's valid....but we are told to say no in Scripture.....astronomy....now there you have something

a reply to: GBP/JPY
Hi GBP?JPY,
I'm an Archaeoastronomer really but i have studied astrology, parans are accurate to fixed stars in astronomy, but Projected onto the ecliptic measure isn't for fixed stars, all stars would have to be in a line following the apparent path of the Sun through the Zodiac for this to be accurate, which clearly isn't the case, the night sky is full of stars.
However i will use both measures as i progress, below for John Adams the next President is using the inaccurate astrology measure, but many believe in the measure, so lets not knock it but for any measure, the margin is one degree or with parans 4 minutes of time.
The second and third Presidents died on the same date, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson died on 4th July 1826, the 50th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence????
en.wikipedia.org...
The I.C. is 10*43' Cancer and Sirius was at 11*41' Cancer using midnight day marker.
Using midnight day marker John Adams death chart is below:-

a reply to: Astronomer62

The second and third Presidents died on the same date, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson died on 4th July 1826, the 50th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence????

I always found that fact interesting. Do you think it means anything?

And that chart you posted is uber cool.

Please keep them coming!

John Adams oath of office to become America's second President happened on 4th March 1797, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Egyptian sunrise day marker was used, while Alnilam was on the Nadir or I.C.
en.wikipedia.org...
Paran astronomy graph is below:-

a reply to: Riffrafter

Hi Riffrafter, there are options to how to think about 2 president's dying on 4th July, which i will get to soon, but really, out of the first five President's, THREE died on 4th July, which is spooky!
Thomas Jefferson's birthchart on astro database hasn't a time and on date there are no parans to Sirius and Alnilam.
Thomas Jefferson's oath of office was in Washington DC on 4th March 1801, link below:-
en.wikipedia.org...
Using ancient Egyptian day marker being sunrise, we find the I.C. at 20*51' Gemini and Alnilam at 20*41' Gemini, by projected measure.
Graphs below:-





Probably the biggest mystery regarding the 2nd and 3rd presidents is that they both died on the same date being 4th July 1826, being the 50th Anniversary of the Declaration of Independence!
Thomas Jefferson died in Charlottesville, Virginia and using ancient Egyptian day marker being sunrise we find Alnilam rising with the Sun, graph below.
We also find an alignment at midnight where the I.C. is 10*45' Cancer and by projected measure we find Sirius at 11*41' Cancer, graphs above:-

great thread I'll be reading and following along thanks

a reply to: toysforadults
Hi Toysfor adults,
Thanks for remarks!
We have a time and date for president James Madison, the 4th President of the strange time of 23:59pm on 16th March 1751, in Port Conway, Virginia, however i don't have a fix, so have used Port Royal that is on the other side of the river and makes no difference:-
en.wikipedia.org...
Astro Databank chart below:-
www.astro.com...
At time of birth given by Lois Rodden, James Madison had Sirius setting in the West, astronomy paran graph below:-

a reply to: Astronomer62

Very interesting!

Reading... and waiting (with typical Arien impatience) for your interpretation of it all...

Nearly all presidents have been inaugurated on 4th March up to 1933, when it changed to 20 January in 1937:-
en.wikipedia.org...
This means that all presidents by using Sunrise Day Marker would have Alnilam on the Nadir by projected measure on 4th March in Washington DC, until when time zones appeared in 1880's
We are getting spooky now, i can't believe it, the 5th President died on 4th July, which means 3 of 5 presidents died on this day???
en.wikipedia.org...-presidency
Perhaps it would be good to leave links:-
www.bu.edu...
constitutioncenter.org...
I can not find any parans to James Monroe's Birth but the time is suspect, being 01:52:18 AM, who counts seconds?
www.astro.com...
When James Monroe died on 4th July 1831 in New York, if using midnight day marker we find the I.C. at 10*32' Cancer, Sun Conjunct Sirius by projected measure and Sun at 11*25 Cancer????
Information below, it is enoegh today soon i'm getting tired!





I can not find any parans to James Monroe's Birth but the time is suspect, being 01:52:18 AM, who counts seconds?

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Astronomer62

Very interesting!

Reading... and waiting (with typical Arien impatience) for your interpretation of it all...

Sorry Boadicea, analysis will happen when i finish all 46 presidents!
John Quincy Adams died on 23rd Februry 1848 in Washington DC at the dubious time of 07:20 AM, this must have been fraud, as at that time the I.C. cut through Alnilam. I will continue tomorrow.
en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Astronomer62

Sorry Boadicea, analysis will happen when i finish all 46 presidents!

Argh! You're killing me!!!

But okay... I'll live... I always do. You get a good night's sleep and I'll console myself with something to look forward to.

I don't expect to find many alignments in this period as in 1826 the "Morgan Affair" sparked anti-masonic feelings, and hurt the organisation like no other during this period:-
www.history.com...
Andrew Jackson was a high ranking Freemason who become president in 1829, but we can see why that Sirius and Alnilam wasn't used, i can't find any alignments.
en.wikipedia.org...
I still marvel at Astro-Databank, i wonder who it was that gave Andrew Jackson a birth time of 07:35:57 AM?
www.astro.com...
Strangely he was born on the Ides of March.
Strangely the father of John Wilkes Booth, Junius Brutus Booth had threatened to assassinate President Andrew Jackson, in a letter dated 4th July 1835, while he was in Philadelphia, which is auspicious!
The family had a BRUTUS thing going on with patterns, i wonder what a forensic profiler would think?:-
news.utk.edu...

Marin Van Buren was the next President, Astro-Databank hasn't a time of birth for him, and i can't find any alignments of Sirius and Alnilam for birth or death.
en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: GBP/JPY
Flagg dad...But no astrology round these parts.....Yes it's valid....but we are told to say no in Scripture.....astronomy....now there you have something

Christins are oftern taught that astrology is bad. Simply because it gives you a greater understanding of some of the bibles teachings.

Keep em coming. Maybe only a short nap, yes?

a reply to: purplemer
Hi Purplemer,
I hope the bickering has stopped now with your thread, lets hope so!
As far as i know, William Henry Harrison's death was at 00:30 AM on 4 April 1841, as shown below on newspaper report:-


The Parans for the death of William Henry Harrison are interesting, by using Ancient Egyptian day marker being Sunrise on 4th April 1841, we find Sirius aligned to the Nadir.

I can not find any alignments to his birth, link below:-
www.astro.com...

a reply to: TheAlleghenyGentleman
Hi AlleghenyGentleman,
Sorry, i have to go to bed at 6pm as i have paraplegia, its a bit painful to sit in a wheelchair for long, but i'm back now.
I don't know how long i can write as i have relatives coming today!

William Henry Harrison only was president for one month before he died, on day of death, as Sun rose, Sirius clicked into place on Nadir or I.C.
en.wikipedia.org...
Obviously John Tyler become President on same day as William H. Harrison died, therefore the parans above also apply to him:-
en.wikipedia.org...
I can not find any alignments regarding John Tyler's Birth:-
www.astro.com...
John Tyler was involved in the "Annexation of Texas", by getting it through the Senate.
In Texas, we may wonder what the star is in the lyrics of the state anthem?
en.wikipedia.org...
Texas was admitted to the Union of the United States on 29th December 1845, the State Capitol was and is Austin.
en.wikipedia.org...
Ancient Greek day marker was used at location, being previous sunset to date, as Alnilam, Belt of Orion and Osiris star was rising, the astronomy graph will be the top picture below at end of thread section!

However if General Houston had not won the Battle of San Jacinto near La Porte, Texas, then there wouldn't have been a State of Texas, i have used La Porte as a fix to location.
It seems that General Houston was using astrology magic to start the battle, this started with the "Twin Sisters" Cannons blasting out cannon balls at 16:30 pm on 21st April 1836, 4 minutes later Sirius the Isis star was culminating at location!
Whether or not aligning Sirius helped General Houston, i can't say, however the Mexicans had approx. 1500 men and Houston had 800, so was an unlikely victory. Please scroll down link below to "San Jacinto":-
en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...
Astronomy graph is the lower picture below:-
I don't have any alignments to John Tyler's death.

I haven't found any alignments to James K. Polk
en.wikipedia.org...

The Next President was Zachary Taylor
en.wikipedia.org...

Zachary Taylor's death is interesting, it seems he died at approx 22:30 on 9 July 1850, slightly earlier at 22:22pm Alnilam was on the Nadir or I.C., however Jupiter was Setting which would have increased the orb and expanded the time of Alnilams influence beyond the orb of 1 degree.
books.google.co.uk...:30+am&source=bl&ots=Tepux1isml&sig=ACfU3U1Q 8ys3CqlPmw3Dss0Ug4HvuFqYMQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj09peXqJXnAhUKWsAKHSXXBiw4ChDoATABegQIChAB#v=onepage&q=death%20zachary%20taylor%209%20july%201850%201 0%3A30%20am&f=false
Astronomy/astrology paran graph below:-

originally posted by: purplemer

originally posted by: GBP/JPY
Flagg dad...But no astrology round these parts.....Yes it's valid....but we are told to say no in Scripture.....astronomy....now there you have something

Christins are oftern taught that astrology is bad. Simply because it gives you a greater understanding of some of the bibles teachings.

Really?

I find that really interesting. Can you point out a few examples?

Thanks in advance.