Watching cnn and MSNBC. Why is Joe Biden still "leading" the Iowa caucus?

originally posted by: BrianFlanders
Because Trump is just that bad. People see Joe Biden as a sensible alternative. I shouldn't have to say that but there it is.

could you please explain just how bad is trump i live overseas and even i can see he's doing a good job for america so why is he so bad

originally posted by: drewlander
a reply to: Scepticaldem
Check the iowa caucuses thread. I already went through this. :-p

No one likes Biden around my parts. No one.

I don't like him anywhere NEAR my parts. That's for damn sure.

Has he been bothering your parts, lately?

Has he come sniffing around, caressing your family members?

If he was broadcast on the evening mews to be heading for my parts, I'd remind the Mrs. of what sleepy Joe told his wife is the ultimate in home security: step out on the balcony with a 12 gauge side-by-side, and unload both barrels!

Delayed rigging in action !!!

Maybe they botched up the birth certificate check points !! 😆

If I HAD to vote for a Democrat it would be Tulsi Gabbard. Besides her ideas about the 2nd amendment she is pretty rock solid...and the establishment hates her.

Being that I dont have to vote for a Democrat I'm 100% all in on Trump again.

Not sure why Dem voters arent giving her a chance

originally posted by: Steveogold

originally posted by: BrianFlanders
Because Trump is just that bad. People see Joe Biden as a sensible alternative. I shouldn't have to say that but there it is.

could you please explain just how bad is trump i live overseas and even i can see he's doing a good job for america so why is he so bad

MSM sees him as bad because he talks to the People directly. He also exposes them as fake news.

Dem Swampers see him as disrupting their death grip on controlling the narrative. Trump matches them, if not exceeds them, in aggressive nature. No other Rep would attempt this.

Deep State sees him as a threat as he’s shined a bright light on the swamp. He can’t be influenced or controlled by their normal tactics.

Average liberal Americans? Likely finding POTUS Trump more appealing than candidate Trump. That’s what has MSM, Swamp, DS scared.

The “App”

Iowa caucus results delayed by apparent app issue

www.foxnews.com...

- company called Shadow
- based in DC and self identifies as ‘progressive’
- app cost $125k
- Iowa DNC has not publicly ID’d app creator
- Cyber security pros were concerned
- not only is the app failing, the telephone backup plan failed too.
- Iowa DNC refused to allow app to be open tested for cyber security
- Dept Homeland Security cyber branch offered to test the app; Iowa DNC refused.
- key senior managers at Shadow worked for HRC campaign.

Yeah, nothing to see here. Bernie and others are so screwed. The DNC isn’t waiting or risking momentum by Bernie. They plan to sink this boat early so they can pull off the ‘long con’.

Bloomberg + Hillary or a Kerry.

- Bloom has the $$ the DNC can use their $ on House/Senate races.

- DNC can avoid a Socialist ticket.

Oh yeah, the fix is in. The current Dems just haven’t realized it yet.

originally posted by: Gothmog
Biden is and always has been "the pick"
Blessed and sanctified by the DNC.

American voters will make the pick.

originally posted by: Sillyolme

originally posted by: Gothmog
Biden is and always has been "the pick"
Blessed and sanctified by the DNC.

American voters will make the pick.

As long as the DNC agrees

originally posted by: Sillyolme

originally posted by: Gothmog
Biden is and always has been "the pick"
Blessed and sanctified by the DNC.

American voters will make the pick.

They "appear" to make the pick.

originally posted by: Sillyolme

originally posted by: Gothmog
Biden is and always has been "the pick"
Blessed and sanctified by the DNC.

American voters will make the pick.

Looks like a rigged primary by desperate and jealous Democrats 😆😆

a reply to: xuenchen

I’m starting to think the Iowa App Debacle isn’t as much about “who” won but the turnout results for the Dems.

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: TheLieWeLive
They have to keep Biden a front runner because of the impeachment quid pro quo farce. They just can't abandon him while the hearings are on going.

I'm guessing once we learn who his running mate is it will all make sense who they really want as president.

He is going to pick Hillary for VP.

He's going to take Warren's advice and pick a 9 year old transgender as VP.

Plenty of Woke votes for the taking and he gets some quality hair-sniffing time in meetings!!!

Lew Black had a great, effective and totally honest plan over ten years ago;

Take an adolescent chimpanzee and suit him up.
Have him throw a dart at a map of CONUS and drop him at that spot
500ft. static line to avoid getting blown off da zone. Adios Herc.
Geronimeee... hey just me this sortee COOL.
Just let him tuck, roll and walk around on his own.

The first person whose hand he grabs is the next President: done deal.
I knew there was a good reason I platonically love this guy: he's my
older brother from a different Jewish mother.
And if anything breaks the Internet for good it's likely to be stupid.

originally posted by: ColeYounger
a reply to: Scepticaldem

Because it's rigged.
I'm not a fan of Bernie Sanders, but I don't want to see his campaign get sabotaged by his own party. Again.

It appears it's already happening.
consortiumnews.com...

Biden is a center left white male, he is heterosexual, eats meat, and doesn't go off on crazy socialist rants while blaming everything on the patriarchy.

In short, the media recognise that he stands a far better chance of attracting swing voters away from trump than any of the other front runners.

There are a significant number of people who voted for trump because they disliked Clinton more, who could potentially be pursuuaded to vote for a moderate democrat.

originally posted by: PilSungMtnMan
a reply to: xuenchen

I’m starting to think the Iowa App Debacle isn’t as much about “who” won but the turnout results for the Dems.

Heard whispers of that as well watching Agenda Free on youtube

Funny too that turnout for the caucus was pretty low, about the same as in 2016 and that was around 30% less than in 2008. Where is all that enthusiasm? LOL

originally posted by: HalWesten
The Dems can't even find healthy candidates to be their front runners. Pathetic.

I'm sure there will be plenty of Russian created videos showing them all falling down or having seizures.
Right?
Along with plenty of false news reports about corruption.

Whatever it takes for the win.

Where is the head of the DNC? Where is Little Tommy?

mobile.twitter.com...

originally posted by: carewemust
Where is the head of the DNC? Where is Little Tommy?

mobile.twitter.com...

Very good question....

ROFL!

a reply to: Sillyolme

haha your still going on about the russians? why would the russians need videos when the dems cant even run a caucus?

www.salon.com... and re that russia BS

The debunked "Russian influence" nonsense is infantilizing liberals The Russian money spent to influence the election was negligible. Its persistence as an explanation is bad for Dems

that is the tile and it would behoove your to read the entire article

here is another snippit

To begin with, both the Russia Scare and the Brown Scare betray a profound contempt on the part of members of technocratic neoliberal national establishments for voters who support populist causes or candidates. These voters are assumed to be gullible dimwits who are easily manipulated by foreign propaganda or domestic demagogues. Even worse, attributing populism to the irrational impulses of maladjusted voters prevents embattled establishments on both sides of the Atlantic from treating specific grievances of those voters as legitimate.Worst of all, the myth that Russia swung the 2016 US presidential election from Clinton to Trump, and endlessly repeated comparisons of current events to the rise of the Nazis in Germany's Weimar Republic, provide the managerial overclasses in Atlantic democracies with excuses to increase their near-monopoly of political, economic, and media power by freezing out political challengers and censoring dissident media. If most opponents of neoliberalism are Russian pawns or potential Nazis, then mere disagreement with neoliberal policies on trade, immigration, taxation, or other subjects can be equated with rejection of liberalism or democracy, if not outright treason. Confronted with peaceful challenges via the voting booth to neoliberal orthodoxy from outsiders on both the populist right and the socialist left, the instinctive reflex of many in the besieged establishment is to call for censorship and repression.

but this covers the bulk of it and i mean come on you democrats have beaten the russian horse so badly its just a red mangled stain on the ground it used to stand on. you guys lost fair and square and are looking increasingly likely to loose again "bigly" to use a trumpism , as im typing this the final speaches of the sham impeachment trial are happening and it does not even look like it will be a close vote when they do at the end of the day.

dems have labled us "russian bots" "nazis" "fly over staters" "racists" and every other manner of foul untrue things but you democrats KEEP doubling down and not realizing that not only is your behavior alienating any republican from ever voting for even a moderate dem again but a large number of independents as well . and even worse as shown by constant attacks and "crying wolf" even if trump were to do something so terribly illegal at this point a good deal of the country would not even belive it due to all the failed attacks by the dems over the past three years.

and now you guys cant even run a state Caucus and you expect the voters to trust your side with anything? its been a complete poop show per cnn and nate silver and makes you guys look incompetent when you had THREE years to prepare for this exact moment ,Millions spent campaigning to build up momentum to attempt to defeat trump all evaporated over night.

Multiple dems claiming victory with so far no results out and snapping at each other like angry dogs and closely contested Cacus results being decided by literal coin tosses and pulling names out of hats. Is this the way you want to try to confront trump? with infighting and failures while he and the RNC laugh openly and often at the parody that is now the democratic party in the usa?

Because impeachment. If it’s election interface from trump to investigate corruption, the one investigated needs to be a presidential candidate. Apparently this grants immunity for joe, and legitimacy to the partisan impeachment in the house.

Can’t see any other reason why the dems are keeping biden around. Obama STILL did not endorse him, says everything that those who should be supporting him refuse.

a reply to: Scepticaldem