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originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: MaverickLRD
The majority of scientific beliefs point to on or around December 1 for the first confirmed case
I’m good going back a couple weeks to mid November. Putting us at 3 months
The US it’s been around confirmed for 3 weeks
Which, since there was unrestricted travel from China/WuHan for many weeks in the first month, combined with the report of at least 5 million[/ WuHan natives who fled before the lockdown... means that if this thing was going to hit us hard, we'd already be well on our way. But we are not.
originally posted by: Mateo96
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: MaverickLRD
The majority of scientific beliefs point to on or around December 1 for the first confirmed case
I’m good going back a couple weeks to mid November. Putting us at 3 months
The US it’s been around confirmed for 3 weeks
Which, since there was unrestricted travel from China/WuHan for many weeks in the first month, combined with the report of at least 5 million[/ WuHan natives who fled before the lockdown... means that if this thing was going to hit us hard, we'd already be well on our way. But we are not.
While I still think this should have hit the entire world hard by now, most of those 5 million escapees must have traveled to other mainland China regions.
originally posted by: MaverickLRD
originally posted by: Mateo96
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: MaverickLRD
The majority of scientific beliefs point to on or around December 1 for the first confirmed case
I’m good going back a couple weeks to mid November. Putting us at 3 months
The US it’s been around confirmed for 3 weeks
Which, since there was unrestricted travel from China/WuHan for many weeks in the first month, combined with the report of at least 5 million[/ WuHan natives who fled before the lockdown... means that if this thing was going to hit us hard, we'd already be well on our way. But we are not.
While I still think this should have hit the entire world hard by now, most of those 5 million escapees must have traveled to other mainland China regions.
Data collected shows they went worldwide
www.eg24.news...
originally posted by: tennisdawg
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: JSpader
Tennis, any material movement by elements of Federal ?????
Actually, this is a very good question...
Would be interesting to start hearing reports from those in the know about any federal military equipment and/or troop movements that seem out of the ordinary.
I agree with you guys on this. I was not involved in the phase 1 (air force base) quarantines. I was involved in secondary and tertiary locations (not operated by the military) aka Phase 2 and Phase 3. I am sure there are numerous people on the website that can speak to the happenings at those bases in Phase 1. If this situation gets to the the locations in Phase 2 and 3, then their will be no hiding those projects from the media or public.
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: NxNWest
As an FYI, China has nearly the entire world’s supply of vitamin C (estimated at 95%).
I would never buy a nutritional product knowingly sourced from China. NEVER. And that has nothing to do with the CV scare right now.
originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: new_here
the "24-day incubation period" is likely cases where someone gets infected once, then reinfected a 2nd time.
Those doing the testing assume its the one lifecycle for a single infection when in fact it could be 2. That's what the MedCram CoronaVirus episode 15 discussed on Youtube anyway. I'd check it if you haven't already (can't post it at the moment, sorry but if you can't find it let me know I'll PM you the link in a bit)
originally posted by: logicsoda
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: Tukota
Fox News just did a live shot about the quarantined group from the 1st plane. The reporter, William La Jeunesse, stated that all 195 citizens from the 1st flight have completed their 14-day quarantine. He said that these people were monitored closer than any group of people in the U.S. and the military spokesperson said that they need to be able to return to their lives, and should be welcomed back into their neighborhoods.
Again with the lack of details...
But reading between the lines, apparently NONE of them ever tested positive?
Lack of details is pretty common around here. A lot of it is wild conjecture, references to questionable sources, etc (one tried to link me to express.co.uk, which is highly dubious at best)
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Advantage
This one is completely new, and our immune system will go all hands on deck with it and because we don't have the right antibodies because our systems have never seen anything like it, we get completely sick at the same time.
originally posted by: Mateo96
originally posted by: MaverickLRD
originally posted by: Mateo96
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: MaverickLRD
The majority of scientific beliefs point to on or around December 1 for the first confirmed case
I’m good going back a couple weeks to mid November. Putting us at 3 months
The US it’s been around confirmed for 3 weeks
Which, since there was unrestricted travel from China/WuHan for many weeks in the first month, combined with the report of at least 5 million[/ WuHan natives who fled before the lockdown... means that if this thing was going to hit us hard, we'd already be well on our way. But we are not.
While I still think this should have hit the entire world hard by now, most of those 5 million escapees must have traveled to other mainland China regions.
Data collected shows they went worldwide
www.eg24.news...
I stand corrected then, thanks. I do remember somebody posting a long page with multiple sources and graphs and it showed that 10 out of 11 of those 5 million had stayed within China.
It is quite baffling then.
originally posted by: Whenever82828
If there really is a risk for other countries to be effected as badly as China right now, and 14 days quarantine is what is being suggested.
What would be some arguments against putting the majority of the population into say a months quarantine now
originally posted by: Oppenheimer67
originally posted by: Mateo96
originally posted by: MaverickLRD
originally posted by: Mateo96
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: MaverickLRD
The majority of scientific beliefs point to on or around December 1 for the first confirmed case
I’m good going back a couple weeks to mid November. Putting us at 3 months
The US it’s been around confirmed for 3 weeks
Which, since there was unrestricted travel from China/WuHan for many weeks in the first month, combined with the report of at least 5 million[/ WuHan natives who fled before the lockdown... means that if this thing was going to hit us hard, we'd already be well on our way. But we are not.
While I still think this should have hit the entire world hard by now, most of those 5 million escapees must have traveled to other mainland China regions.
Data collected shows they went worldwide
www.eg24.news...
I stand corrected then, thanks. I do remember somebody posting a long page with multiple sources and graphs and it showed that 10 out of 11 of those 5 million had stayed within China.
It is quite baffling then.
I think I'd need more proof than that article. It was based on an article from The Sun newspaper and looks like fear porn. Using words like 'fleeing' Wuhan at a time of year when millions of Chinese go home, not just from around the world but from one part of China to the other.
"This mass migration is the largest annual movement of humans in the world."
india.uitp.org...
Proving millions left China does not prove they all came from Wuhan or anything out the the ordinary.
originally posted by: SpartanStoic
a reply to: kwakakev
I don't agree with tanstaafl. We don't have anywhere near the correct numbers from CCP to determine if it's a pandemic.
originally posted by: MaverickLRD
originally posted by: Oppenheimer67
originally posted by: Mateo96
originally posted by: MaverickLRD
originally posted by: Mateo96
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: MaverickLRD
The majority of scientific beliefs point to on or around December 1 for the first confirmed case
I’m good going back a couple weeks to mid November. Putting us at 3 months
The US it’s been around confirmed for 3 weeks
Which, since there was unrestricted travel from China/WuHan for many weeks in the first month, combined with the report of at least 5 million[/ WuHan natives who fled before the lockdown... means that if this thing was going to hit us hard, we'd already be well on our way. But we are not.
While I still think this should have hit the entire world hard by now, most of those 5 million escapees must have traveled to other mainland China regions.
Data collected shows they went worldwide
www.eg24.news...
I stand corrected then, thanks. I do remember somebody posting a long page with multiple sources and graphs and it showed that 10 out of 11 of those 5 million had stayed within China.
It is quite baffling then.
I think I'd need more proof than that article. It was based on an article from The Sun newspaper and looks like fear porn. Using words like 'fleeing' Wuhan at a time of year when millions of Chinese go home, not just from around the world but from one part of China to the other.
"This mass migration is the largest annual movement of humans in the world."
india.uitp.org...
Proving millions left China does not prove they all came from Wuhan or anything out the the ordinary.
It’s interesting that people need more proof on travel itineraries but then believe recycled social media videos creating hysteria about conditions in infected areas of China, or believe that numbers outside of China are inaccurate
Many people leaving were traveling during the Chinese New Year.
I do agree, it’s not the greatest source...and we need more reliable fact base evidence on every aspect. But can only work with what’s being put out there
58 million people live in that province. Surely they have family traveling or living abroad also. There’s 1,000 people in LA self quarantined from travel to China, 200 in Atlanta. The list goes on.
Furthermore those numbers were from 6 weeks after the alleged outbreak began, after 6 weeks it’s doubtful the virus was still isolated to Wuhan
I don’t think it’s far fetched to say that there are many individuals from the region that are no longer in the region
Maybe not 5 million, but enough to spread infection