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originally posted by: EnhancedInterrogator
originally posted by: QuantumDisciple
Spring is coming. Has anyone answered if this can be spread by mosquitoes?
But, it won't matter, because (obviously) ....
Trump Claims Coronavirus Will "Miraculously" Go Away by April
originally posted by: MaverickLRD
originally posted by: logicsoda
originally posted by: sean
The incubation period is what makes this virus lethal. Each carrier infected without symptoms can just keep on spreading. Each person sick can last a week or more till fever breaks. Already have doctors getting sick and dying. A mask is just not good enough. Just so happens to be a level 4 bio lab in Wuhan and what are they cooking up down there? If that is where it came from then they are in some deep sh!t and infected themselves. No wonder they want to lie and keep it secret. How does a virus like that get out of lvl 4? Obviously a major failure in protocols.
In a way I am not surprised. I have been in lvl 3 and 4 containment area's and my duty was to enforce the protocols and constantly made sure that the equipment was tested, logged, tagged, bagged etc. A lot of the workers were foreigner Asian and I was constantly busting them for not following protocol. Even the "Smart" ones educated & schooled with degrees working in the labs still consciously breaking rules. Maybe 1-2 Caucasian American's might have accidentally done something wrong the entire time I was working there. That's what I saw from my observation anyway. I had one guy run past me in clothes not even suited up and then try to come back out because he forgot like a wallet or something. You can guess what happen to that guy. They just hated having to gown up I guess, they picked the wrong field to be in if that is the case. That guy was fired for sure and ID revoked. Never seen him working there again. I am sure my reports had a lot to do with it I had to that was my job.
Usually everything is running normal. However, there is those times the crazy train goes off the rail and you got yellow, blue, red, white flashers and sirens going off all over the place and I got to run and fully suit up, full face mask with vox, air tank, whole 9 yards. There is chemicals and gasses stuff in there that will happily kill you in a matter of seconds with the most agonizing death you could possibly imagine.
It's not just following gowning protocols, it's the containment equipment that has to be perfect and routinely checked, service dates etc. In some cases your safety suit serves no purpose with the really bad stuff like having a lethal dose of radiation. Your badges starts to turn dark or black you're a dead man walking if not dead already. The Chinese are a great people, but they got some sloppy quality control. Cheap labor paying some poor person a crappy wage who cares little about quality and health and well being even for his/herself. You can put a lot of the blame on the companies. If you made such a cheap wage you wouldn't care much about your job either. So all and all this is the sort of thing that happens as the result.
We have no evidence that this came from a bio lab and lots that it came from the seafood market. Don't let your imagination run too wild.
I haven’t seen any proof regarding it originating from the market. Any suggestions where to look? I’ve seen that it’s originated in Wuhan but no pinpoint as to where patient zero contracted it
– Notably, the first three known cases from early December had no contact with that market, and roughly one-third of the initial exposed cohort had no direct ties to Wusan’s wild meat market, the original presumptive source of the virus.
– Following the aforementioned bat coronavirus bio-engineering research that was critiqued for being too risky in 2015, in the paper from UNC eventually published the next year that describing their successful bio-engineering of a highly-virulent coronavirus derived from bats, researcher #8 is listed as one “Zheng-li Shi” attached to the “Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China.”
– Scientists have expressed concern about China’s ability to safely monitor this BSL-4 lab in Wuhan since it opened in 2017: “an open culture is important to keeping BSL-4 labs safe, and he questions how easy this will be in China, where society emphasizes hierarchy. ‘Diversity of viewpoint, flat structures where everyone feels free to speak up and openness of information are important.'” This lab is at most 20 miles from the wet market where the virus had been assumed to have jumped from animal to human. However the idea that a Chinese lab could have a viral sample escape is well-documented – as mentioned, one lab in Beijing has had four separate incidents of the SARS virus leaking out accidentally.
originally posted by: musicismagic
originally posted by: EnhancedInterrogator
originally posted by: QuantumDisciple
Spring is coming. Has anyone answered if this can be spread by mosquitoes?
But, it won't matter, because (obviously) ....
Trump Claims Coronavirus Will "Miraculously" Go Away by April
How sad for him to think that. I guess his friends on Wall Street now can sell their stocks, maybe not at a premium, but more likely now to be traded .
I really can't believe he said such a stupid thing. I've always said, politicians are full of trickery.
originally posted by: Agit8dChop
a reply to: burdman30ott6
And Senator Tom Cotton is pretty adamant the virus entered the market before it exited.
Does he have extra information that the public dont? I'm not sure..
originally posted by: toysforadults
Shanghai and Hang Seng are open and probably getting pumped again, Shanghai composite hasn't had a red day since the first day the market opened
they are pumping their markets hard and this is going to have a MASSIVE affect on the global economy, if they infinitely print money and pump their market this thing can pop the global bubble if the virus itself doesn't f*** us
man China is about to become the worlds biggest problem on multiple fronts, the CCPs days are numbered
originally posted by: MaverickLRD
The general reports state the first case in China was on or around December 1. They are up to 45,000 cases 10 weeks later (reported numbers)
After 3 weeks they announced a confirmed 29 cases and its ballooned from there
The US first confirmed case was January 21.after 3 weeks we are at 13 confirmed cases. I’ll be interested to see where we are April 1st
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: MaverickLRD
I haven’t seen any proof regarding it originating from the market. Any suggestions where to look? I’ve seen that it’s originated in Wuhan but no pinpoint as to where patient zero contracted it
They've actually said Patient Zero had no contact or association with the market at all.
www.express.co.uk...
According to Dr Paweł Grzesiowski from the Medical Centre of Postgraduate Education in Warsaw, Poland, the first person infected with the new coronavirus strain appears to have caught it elsewhere.
He said: “What is interesting, is that Patient X, that is, the first – as it is suspected – to be infected with this microorganism at the beginning of December 2019, did not have any contact with the fish market where the infection could have occurred.”
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: burdman30ott6
No it always came from bats. The strain itself originated in bats. The only question is what the intermediary was. At first, they speculated it was snakes, but now they think it may have been pangolins.
It's like the chain from Contagion. Bat spreads infection to pig. Pig spreads it to human.
Bat spreads infection to X. X spreads it to human. X in this case could be pangolin?
originally posted by: MaverickLRD
I know there’s some laughter about the parroting by trump about warmer temps
But we can only hope that it is the case. Most every other known strain of coronavirus dies out at temps above 85 degrees and in direct sunlight
So far we don’t have adequate case studies of this virus in a warm environment to prove the same. And if it is bio engineered who knows what changes have come about