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originally posted by: Pommer89
Is this thread still for updates or just a muzzleflash thread. Youve contributed nothing mate, just spouting the same rubbish as WHO
originally posted by: toysforadults
I just checked outside the window at work and it looks like everyone is in panick mode, shops are being burned to the ground and loot, cars turned over in the streets, gun shots.... bodies piled sky high and they are burning them and everyone is screaming
originally posted by: Adphil28
a reply to: Power_Semi
Already have a decent supply of food and masks ( hospital connected so they ain’t an issue! Have all meds I need for about a 6 months ( kinda screws after that I’ll have to go out with the hoard then and fight my way through the crowd ) but until then the rooftop apartment far from average sick joe walking around in the street is far below cock sure ? No but defensible and stocked up for the mid term 🤷🏽♂️
originally posted by: muzzleflash
originally posted by: Power_Semi
originally posted by: muzzleflash
originally posted by: Adphil28
a reply to: muzzleflash
Pure speculation here( should change my nick😉) but if China was given a s# trade deal by trump would shutting down all manufacture not cripple America too? In a no win scenario do you think that might be the goal of this? - pure conjecture and speculation on that one though🤷🏽♂️
It will affect the entire world's economy dramatically if it keeps going for a few more weeks.
We could enter a recession far deeper than the 2008 fiasco.
We simply need to lift the quarantine and have everyone go back to their normal lives. That's the only viable solution.
A few thousand deaths is a small price to pay for saving the economy, because that economy keeps the 7 billion of us fed and alive. Without it (a good economy) most of us will not survive. They gotta end the quarantine asap.
Theoretically however, it is plausible that Europe and the US can survive the loss of China's manufacturing and cheap labor. We will need to change our habits and alter our economic policies however to mitigate all of the problems. It would be very difficult and challenging, and we would have to claw our way out of a very deep recession, but it is doable and we could survive without them. Our population can't keep exploding though, and we can't keep borrowing money to pay for everything either.
So yes we can overcome the worst case scenario (complete economic collapse), but it will be a very difficult and challenging road. China's predicament is far worse than ours however, they could go into revolution and end up in complete chaos.
That's why I am baffled by their decision to call the biggest quarantine in history after the (mild) virus was already global. Why would they shoot themselves in both feet?
Wow President Xi is an idiot.
I bet it hasn't even occured to him that quarantining practically the entire country will effect the economy.
I'm going to ring him up right now and tell him muzzle flash says he's a big dumb ass and muzzle flash says he needs to end the quarantine right now because muzzle flash says it's no worse than a cold and muzzle flash says hardly anyone dies and muzzle flash clearly knows far better than the actual people on the ground in China.
Thanks muzzle flash, you've just saved the world with your amazing insight and knowledge.
Hip hip hussar.
My posts are getting through, I won an ad hominem reply!
To respond so condescendingly to me without being able to combat the points I'm making is sort of an admission that I gotcha. You just dislike me for challenging your preconceived notions and paranoia.
That's ok though, I'm not posting in here challenging you guys "to be the cool guy". That's lame anyways. I'm willing to be the guy none of you can stand if that's the price I gotta pay to tell you the TRUTH. I will always choose the TRUTH over any persons opinion of me.
Shoot the messenger all you want, I'm feeling bullet proof today.
Don't care what anyone thinks of me, I only care about the TRUTH.
originally posted by: Power_Semi
originally posted by: muzzleflash
originally posted by: Power_Semi
originally posted by: muzzleflash
originally posted by: Adphil28
a reply to: muzzleflash
Pure speculation here( should change my nick😉) but if China was given a s# trade deal by trump would shutting down all manufacture not cripple America too? In a no win scenario do you think that might be the goal of this? - pure conjecture and speculation on that one though🤷🏽♂️
It will affect the entire world's economy dramatically if it keeps going for a few more weeks.
We could enter a recession far deeper than the 2008 fiasco.
We simply need to lift the quarantine and have everyone go back to their normal lives. That's the only viable solution.
A few thousand deaths is a small price to pay for saving the economy, because that economy keeps the 7 billion of us fed and alive. Without it (a good economy) most of us will not survive. They gotta end the quarantine asap.
Theoretically however, it is plausible that Europe and the US can survive the loss of China's manufacturing and cheap labor. We will need to change our habits and alter our economic policies however to mitigate all of the problems. It would be very difficult and challenging, and we would have to claw our way out of a very deep recession, but it is doable and we could survive without them. Our population can't keep exploding though, and we can't keep borrowing money to pay for everything either.
So yes we can overcome the worst case scenario (complete economic collapse), but it will be a very difficult and challenging road. China's predicament is far worse than ours however, they could go into revolution and end up in complete chaos.
That's why I am baffled by their decision to call the biggest quarantine in history after the (mild) virus was already global. Why would they shoot themselves in both feet?
Wow President Xi is an idiot.
I bet it hasn't even occured to him that quarantining practically the entire country will effect the economy.
I'm going to ring him up right now and tell him muzzle flash says he's a big dumb ass and muzzle flash says he needs to end the quarantine right now because muzzle flash says it's no worse than a cold and muzzle flash says hardly anyone dies and muzzle flash clearly knows far better than the actual people on the ground in China.
Thanks muzzle flash, you've just saved the world with your amazing insight and knowledge.
Hip hip hussar.
My posts are getting through, I won an ad hominem reply!
To respond so condescendingly to me without being able to combat the points I'm making is sort of an admission that I gotcha. You just dislike me for challenging your preconceived notions and paranoia.
That's ok though, I'm not posting in here challenging you guys "to be the cool guy". That's lame anyways. I'm willing to be the guy none of you can stand if that's the price I gotta pay to tell you the TRUTH. I will always choose the TRUTH over any persons opinion of me.
Shoot the messenger all you want, I'm feeling bullet proof today.
Don't care what anyone thinks of me, I only care about the TRUTH.
I'm not countering your specific points (such as they are - they mainly consist of "this is no worse than the cold because I say so") because:
a) I can't be bothered;
b) You're not listening nor willing to contemplate any opinion other than your own erroneous one;
c) I've already done my own research, and maths, and observation of what's going on and it's clear - this is FAR worse than ANY of the authorities will have you believe;
The idea you have in your head that you - a keyboard warrior have it all figured out, and that the Chinese are idiots for shutting down cities and locking people in their apartments and building new hospitals because they're emotional fools who are susceptible to knee jerk reactions for no good reason.
I think you have the 2 sides of the equation mixed up with regards to who knows what they're doing and who doesn't have a clue.