Corona Virus Updates Part 2

originally posted by: checkmeout
Japanese researchers are again saying that the virus is transmitted during asymptomatic phase...although it seems the period is shorter than the 14 days we are currently aware of?

english.kyodonews.net...

Oh wow. Thanks for sharing that..... even though it's terrible news

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: checkmeout

I have to ask again - is that asymptomatic as in no symptoms apparent to an outside observer, none felt at all by the host, or are people capable of shedding virus for a period of time before developing symptoms like you can with the flu?

Just saying asymptomatic doesn't tell us much. Right now, every one of us is asymptomatic.

One if the strangest notes i read during my project was that super spreaders can have no symptoms at all. It stood out to me because I had to research the term 'super spreader' to confirm it was what it sounded like.

It was noted in reference to the thermal cameras at the entries. basically telling me that they would be ineffective for rare super spreaders with no symptoms

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: AngelsDecay

Tell her what we may think of her government in no way reflects what we think of Chinese people in general. So she shouldn't think that at all. I feel badly for those stuck in Wuhan right now. They're getting the short end of the stick because their government in busy trying like mad to save face when there is obviously a massive problem.

My sentiments exactly.

a reply to: AngelsDecay

It has been talked about openly by Chinese dissidents with connections inside the party and by Chinese people inside and outside China. I didn’t think that up.

My wife is Chinese and was not offended by this. She is angry at CCP and scared of this whole thing.

My wife’s uncle, under lockdown in Shenzhen, will openly discuss this.

Before you question it - watch what they do. Think about it. How many people are the condemning to death?

Hey ho,

I'm off to bed.

Not sure I really want to see what tomorrow brings.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: checkmeout

I have to ask again - is that asymptomatic as in no symptoms apparent to an outside observer, none felt at all by the host, or are people capable of shedding virus for a period of time before developing symptoms like you can with the flu?

Just saying asymptomatic doesn't tell us much. Right now, every one of us is asymptomatic.

I don't know Ketsuko, it seems to be they are saying completely asymptomatic. Yet in other reports (re the cruise ship) I read about people being asymptomatic 'except for a cough'. I think people do have symptoms but they are so mild that they wouldn't think it could be something serious. And of course for many it might not be. But for some reason it affects some very seriously (and to me it doesn't just seem to be the elderly with news of doctors dying etc).

originally posted by: SpartanStoic
a reply to: AngelsDecay

It has been talked about openly by Chinese dissidents with connections inside the party and by Chinese people inside and outside China. I didn’t think that up.

My wife is Chinese and was not offended by this. She is angry at CCP and scared of this whole thing.

My wife’s uncle, under lockdown in Shenzhen, will openly discuss this.

Before you question it - watch what they do. Think about it. How many people are the condemning to death?

Also ask yourself where Xi Jinping has been at this entire time. Is he even showing face over there. Or is he in hiding?

originally posted by: SpartanStoic
a reply to: AngelsDecay

It has been talked about openly by Chinese dissidents with connections inside the party and by Chinese people inside and outside China. I didn’t think that up.

My wife is Chinese and was not offended by this. She is angry at CCP and scared of this whole thing.

My wife’s uncle, under lockdown in Shenzhen, will openly discuss this.

Before you question it - watch what they do. Think about it. How many people are the condemning to death?

No worries my friend... Maybe some over reaction here right now from her... But all calm now... Peace, and o hope and still positive

a reply to: ketsuko

Thank you for your clarification. Am I wrong in my reading that this is spread (actively shed) without any noticeable symptoms?

Is this right? And is this normal? Much like people who have recovered are gonna have seriously long-lasting and disturbing disabilities, perhaps for the duration of their life

I’m not trying fear monger here; I want to make sure if these are indeed facts, I’ve got them straight. Still unsure about 14-day quarantine vs. 28-day contagion in body. Or it’s ability to sterilize males in a population. I understand it may be too soon for a simple confirm/deny. Or rather there may not be a readily available answer just yet.

But. Then it begs the question why would a vector try to limit the offspring capabilities of its host? Whether it’s viral, bacterial, fungal, or parasitic.... is my line of thinking way off course?

a reply to: checkmeout

No, if it's truly a novel strain, it won't be just the elderly who are at risk for very serious illness. That will be the hell of it. There will be plenty of people who do only get mildly ill, and then there will be people who get flat out laid out by it but won't need to seek medical attention, but then you'll have the critical cases, and there will be no rhyme nor reason to who goes critical and who doesn't, not really.

So it's scary, really scary.

a reply to: SpartanStoic
What do they mean by "sacrifice" ? And how would they do it?

a reply to: ketsuko

I will second that notion, and further, this virus only has the ability to bind the ACE receptors (and maybe also CD4) on cells, and those receptor types are completely lacking in the testicles. The only virus I know of that can hit the testicles per se is Mumps, and that also hits the salivary glands, because the receptors are similar / shared. Please anyone else feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but that is it the way I understand it. *shrug*

originally posted by: AngelsDecay

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: AngelsDecay

Tell her what we may think of her government in no way reflects what we think of Chinese people in general. So she shouldn't think that at all. I feel badly for those stuck in Wuhan right now. They're getting the short end of the stick because their government in busy trying like mad to save face when there is obviously a massive problem.

Unfortunately in that very text I must, correction, we, shall agree everything...

it's exactly like that. whenever someone criticizes China, you can be sure they are criticizing Chinese government, NOT Chinese people.

we are all f..king pissed about the situation in China and the way Chinese people are being treated. it's inhuman. on top of that, the government lies to save face instead of doing everything possible to help people, still trying to pretend it's under control. this is complete BS and Chinese people are paying with their lives for that.

i guess we're just more open about saying what we think CCP is capable of, since it's not like they can put us in jail or kill us for that.

tell your girl not to worry. easier said than done, but worrying didn't help anyone yet.

stay safe.

a reply to: tennisdawg

I know you aren’t implying this.... but is there ANY way we could make a virus DO THAT.

Like that thing in particular

And if it’s novel, and still is naturally occurring with THAT particular quality as it’s sole distinguishing quality/characteristic, did we just hit the most unlucky lottery Nature has devised in a millennia?

a reply to: AutomateThis1

Scant appearances, as I posted previously rumor persists he’s in deep sh$t and may get “disappeared” soon. Some rumors mention specifically end of Feb. Don’t know why.

a reply to: slatesteam

1st question


Yes Camp Ashland is a National Guard Facility

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Plane to land 6 pm Central Time in Nebraska coming in from San Antonio TX


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originally posted by: hiddenNZ
a reply to: SpartanStoic
What do they mean by "sacrifice" ? And how would they do it?

Wall them off, isolate them using the PLA, kill any that try to flee, and let the live or die as their genetics dictate. Wait a while, go in, mass graves and burns, and perhaps leave that area as a no go zone for a while

a reply to: AngelsDecay

Please note specifically I say CCP not China or Chinese people.

There is a difference.

We can have a beer.

a reply to: SeekingDepth

Omg thank you. 1 down...

originally posted by: slatesteam
a reply to: tennisdawg

I know you aren’t implying this.... but is there ANY way we could make a virus DO THAT.

Like that thing in particular

And if it’s novel, and still is naturally occurring with THAT particular quality as it’s sole distinguishing quality/characteristic, did we just hit the most unlucky lottery Nature has devised in a millennia?

He said waaaay back in the thread that it was manmade.