Corona Virus Updates Part 2

When I think about this outbreak, the thing that scares me most of all , is the thought of overcrowded hospitals worldwide somewhere in the future, should this thing indeed become the worst case scenario... As I have a medical condition that requires minor surgery about once every two years, not being able to get access to medical care would mean my death, virus or no virus... so yeah, I'm pretty worried.
I heard ppl say that they have proof about the gov knowing more and preparations being made, or say that they have info directly from those in high places, ... At this point I can't decide if I believe it or not.

So thinking about this,
if it was true, if ppl in higher places know that this is going to get really bad, shouldn't we be able to pick up the signs in a change of the 'elite"s' behavior? In there whereabouts? Shouldn't some of them start disappearing from the public picture pretty soon?
I've been checking in Europe, Royals, politicians, known elite.... so far they are all still spotted in public, going on with their normal lives.... not seem to worry about a virus that could potentially be anywhere.
Not sure about the US since I have no idea how to keep track of these ppl

thoughts on this anyone?

I can't even get Staph Aureus to stay alive for more than a few days without nutrients in a sterile buffer sometimes.

21 days on a carrier? I doubt it...

Wuhan has 11 million people

China Death rate in 2019 was 7.21%

Of the 11 million people in Wuhan, 792,000 (or more) will die from causes other than the novel coronavirus.

On average that is 2169 deaths per day in Wuhan under normal conditions.

originally posted by: KindraLaBelle
When I think about this outbreak, the thing that scares me most of all , is the thought of overcrowded hospitals worldwide somewhere in the future, should this thing indeed become the worst case scenario... As I have a medical condition that requires minor surgery about once every two years, not being able to get access to medical care would mean my death, virus or no virus... so yeah, I'm pretty worried.
I heard ppl say that they have proof about the gov knowing more and preparations being made, or say that they have info directly from those in high places, ... At this point I can't decide if I believe it or not.

So thinking about this,
if it was true, if ppl in higher places know that this is going to get really bad, shouldn't we be able to pick up the signs in a change of the 'elite"s' behavior? In there whereabouts? Shouldn't some of them start disappearing from the public picture pretty soon?
I've been checking in Europe, Royals, politicians, known elite.... so far they are all still spotted in public, going on with their normal lives.... not seem to worry about a virus that could potentially be anywhere.
Not sure about the US since I have no idea how to keep track of these ppl

thoughts on this anyone?

Wouldn't worry unless the current Pope started keeping his mouth shut for once.

Lower increase than yesterday and yesterday was lower than the day before ...
Ah, sh!t...hErE We gO aGaiN!
“exponential increase” my arse... 😂😂😂

THE INCREASE IS NOT EVEN LINEAR.

a reply to: Necrose

CDC has calculated that multiplication factor is 2.1 = that is an infected person will infect 2.1 other persons

One specialist said may be as much 2.7

Anything over 1 means disease will continue to spread ………...

a reply to: AngelsDecay


Probably because it doesn't meet "standard operating procedure"

www.channelnewsasia.com...

With regard to mortality rates of this bug I'm bothered by the supposed stats. I've seen 1%, 2%, 10% etc but the fact remains those stats are based on a communist country and there is already speculation the infected and death counts are way higher then reported.

Just arguing with my girlfriend about the flu and the number of people that die from it and I asked her one simple question. "Has a huge country ever quarantined much of its people for just the flu?" Crickets..... was her answer.

To me if this is that bad we arent going to get the real truth until its too late!


a reply to: Adphil28

originally posted by: ragiusnotiel
Answers I need:

If I were to rent a car, what cleaners shouls I use to decontaminate it?
Should I avoid highways/major cities?
Route around confirmed infection locations?
Avoid hotel stays?

Thanks in advance.

You will still have to get gasoline and use that pump handle that who knows how many people handled it before you.

You will be having to use restrooms, that again, who knows how many people were in there right before you got in.

Hotel cleaning is hit or miss. They certainly don't swab down every surface you are likely to touch.

So if you were to pick up this virus along the way and infect your child, how would you feel about that?

I know it's just a slim chance, but there IS a chance.

originally posted by: neurosurgeon
I can't even get Staph Aureus to stay alive for more than a few days without nutrients in a sterile buffer sometimes.

21 days on a carrier? I doubt it...

Yeah, I linked it somewhere.. it was less than 5 minutes on a dry surface. Its not even worth disputing now. They seem to have a lot of folks bamboozled though.. with the claims of 21 days and then all the spraying and fogging... keeping everyone so safe.

Urgh...

Australia, the official update;

As of this morning, 7 February 2020, 15 cases of 2019-nCoV have been confirmed in Australia: 5 in Queensland, 4 in New South Wales, 4 in Victoria, and 2 in South Australia.

All of the cases in Australia have come from Wuhan except one in NSW who had contact in China with a confirmed case in Wuhan.

Of the previously reported cases, 5 have recovered. The others are in a stable condition.

Australian health authorities are testing another 165 people who show symptoms of the virus.

Linky and bolding by me.

My personal opinion about Australia now is that the opportunity for containment has passed, if it ever actually existed.

originally posted by: Mateo96

Wouldn't worry unless the current Pope started keeping his mouth shut for once.

the pope huh? Guess you didn't see this one, only now occurred to me that it is an Asian woman in that pic from Jan 1st.

Pope Francis apologizes for losing patience with woman who grabbed him

originally posted by: Pommer89
a reply to: AngelsDecay


Probably because it doesn't meet "standard operating procedure"

www.channelnewsasia.com...

Tanx... Maybe they are acting more rational and less emotional than others far away...

originally posted by: AngelsDecay

originally posted by: Pommer89
a reply to: AngelsDecay


Probably because it doesn't meet "standard operating procedure"

www.channelnewsasia.com...

Tanx... Maybe they are acting more rational and emotionless than others far away...

originally posted by: neurosurgeon
I can't even get Staph Aureus to stay alive for more than a few days without nutrients in a sterile buffer sometimes.

21 days on a carrier? I doubt it...

Every virus is different. Most flu viruses can survive 7 days on a non porous surface and Heppatitis can survive for months on a non porous surface. I'm not saying coronavirus can go 21 days, that seems to be speculation (same as 99% of what we're officially being told seems to be), but it's not impossible to believe.

originally posted by: AngelsDecay

originally posted by: Pommer89
a reply to: AngelsDecay


Probably because it doesn't meet "standard operating procedure"

www.channelnewsasia.com...

Tanx... Maybe they are acting more rational and emotionless than others far away...

Chinese military is about to take control of newly built Vulcan hill hospital

Translation: Army stationed at Vulcan Hill Hospital, next ... 😱😱😱 Think for yourself! !!

twitter.com...

originally posted by: tennisdawg

originally posted by: Necrose
Lower increase than yesterday and yesterday was lower than the day before ...
Ah, sh!t...hErE We gO aGaiN!
“exponential increase” my arse... 😂😂😂

THE INCREASE IS NOT EVEN LINEAR.
*yawn*

****gets down on knees****

please God, do not let them start the math debate again. I will do anything you ask of me.

***gets down all fours*****

I echo this. Please nooooooooooo!

originally posted by: puzzled2
So as anyone heard any more on this?

Global Times

7:29 pm Feb 6

A type of herbal medicine soup has proved effective for 90% of the 2019nCoV patients, clinical observation shows: Chinese TCM authority

Not seeing a recipe to help anyone else.

hey puzzled2: It's been discussed on this thread and other places that because of binding genomes, heavy metal concoctions and lithium, as well as HIV cocktail drugs may be beneficial. I am finding the HIV cocktail drugs particularly interesting in terms of what will cure, also may indicate what may be making you sick.
regards,
tetra

a reply to: Necrose

Just waiting for that graph to come out again

originally posted by: KindraLaBelle
When I think about this outbreak, the thing that scares me most of all , is the thought of overcrowded hospitals worldwide somewhere in the future, should this thing indeed become the worst case scenario... As I have a medical condition that requires minor surgery about once every two years, not being able to get access to medical care would mean my death, virus or no virus... so yeah, I'm pretty worried.
I heard ppl say that they have proof about the gov knowing more and preparations being made, or say that they have info directly from those in high places, ... At this point I can't decide if I believe it or not.

So thinking about this,
if it was true, if ppl in higher places know that this is going to get really bad, shouldn't we be able to pick up the signs in a change of the 'elite"s' behavior? In there whereabouts? Shouldn't some of them start disappearing from the public picture pretty soon?
I've been checking in Europe, Royals, politicians, known elite.... so far they are all still spotted in public, going on with their normal lives.... not seem to worry about a virus that could potentially be anywhere.
Not sure about the US since I have no idea how to keep track of these ppl

thoughts on this anyone?

Ok this is expected to last around a year and rebound for about 2 years once tapering off, I’d imagine the worst of it will be over in 6 months

So plan around that