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originally posted by: muzzleflash
There is more than one God.
If you are not referring to the Trinity, you just lost my interest in anything you say.
Purely by definition of the word God it infers there can only be "one who won", so therefore One.
God = Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Infinite and Eternal, the creative force behind all physical manifestation and it would be the underlying energy of the universe. It also likely exhibits consciousness and can manipulate the universe.
By this grand definition there is no logical way there could be more than "one God", because the word God means literally "the one and only one that encompasses all that is".
As a result I don't even see how a "Trinity" makes any sense because all 3 of those things are the same thing anyways, God.
It always reduces to The 1.
originally posted by: DISRAELI
I’ve also noticed how fervent believers in the Rapture are prone to attach a high value to belief in the Rapture, coming close to making it one of the conditions of salvation.
I’ve been told (on this site) that I was in danger of missing out on the Rapture, if I did not believe it was coming.
The Word is Jesus Christ.
1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
There are no opinions in the Holy Bible but you can find most of that in Commentaries and in Disraeli's posts.
John 1:1-2, 14 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. . . . And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
What is called the trinity is referred to in the Bible as the godhead and is clearly taught in 1 John 5:7 (one of those verse Disraeli believes is in error).
The Word is Jesus Christ.John 1:1-2, 14 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. . . . And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
There are no opinions in the Holy Bible but you can find most of that in Commentaries and in Disraeli's posts.
One of them, for example, is the “one is taken, the other left”, of Matthew ch24 vv40-41.
In fact this act of selection should be referred back to the ”gathering of the elect”, which was mentioned a few verses previously (v31).
It is another way of describing the final judgement, which appears in the next chapter as the separation of “the sheep and the goats”.
This event is “the coming of the Son of Man”, which is about the full and open Return of Christ and the Final Judgement even more clearly than is the case in Thessalonians.
Why the Sheep/Goat Judgment and Great White Throne Judgment Are not the Same Event
We are to judge people with spiritual judgement and in so doing I can conclude one of two thoughts, 1) you will have no be rewards at the Judgement seat of Christ, which takes place at the gathering. Or 2) you are unsaved.
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Deetermined
In my Revelation threads, I came to a different understanding of what the 1000 years means (essentially, I agree with Augustine), so I don't need that distinction.