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originally posted by: oloufo
originally posted by: elDooberino
a reply to: oloufo
At the heart of the matter is the question "Is there a legitimate basis for requesting an investigation of Hunter and Joe Biden's behavior in Ukraine?".
The majority of reasonable people, no matter how they feel about the President, are able to see that the whole Biden/Ukraine escapade looks shady as hell. Keep in mind, to believe there is a legitimate basis, all that is required as that an APPEARANCE of impropriety exist. That's it.
If this legitimate basis can be shown, and I think the defense team did a great job of doing exactly that (you should watch it), it is almost impossible to prove that it was done solely for political gain.
Let's say, in the heat of an election campaign, the President hears from a foreign diplomat that the campaign from the opposing party is coordinating with...Russia. He knows that if it comes out it could benefit him and his party greatly. He also thinks that, with legitimate basis, it would be in the nation's interest to investigate what could possibly be going on. He decides to investigate. Should that President be impeached?
if he clearly violates the constitution by doing so, yes. i don't know your constitution. actually, constitutions are made for just such cases. the trial against trump is about something fundamental. he lies and lies. if the leader of a group is always lying, where will he lead the group to? into chaos. into nothing. he spreads fake news as if he were a second alex jones, that alone would be enough in germany to get a politician fired directly. trump abuses his office. that's what it's all about. but if you can't or won't prove it to him, he remains unpunished and can continue to cause trouble.
originally posted by: network dude
www.foxnews.com...
Democrats signaled in the runup to the looming conclusion of President Trump's impeachment proceedings that they'll simply refuse to accept his all-but-certain acquittal because his "sham" trial lacked proper witnesses and evidence.
Signaling how they will message the saga in the coming months on the campaign trail, top Democratic leaders in the House and Senate argued Trump can never erase the stain of impeachment because the trial wasn’t legitimate.
Schumer is trying to show just how stupid he really is. Pelosi won't accept an acquittal. Yet, they didn't call these witnesses when they were doing the house investigation. This is crazy town. It's like the left projects it's feelings on others only to have to accept their feelings in the end.
I wonder if someone will point out to them that they rushed the impeachment and did a poor job with it.
The house with a majority impeached. It's what they wanted to do. They have the power to do just that. The Senate has the power to try to impeachment. They don't have to listen to anyone else but the constitution, and they did. All the tears, and all the anger won't change those facts. So while impeachment is forever, so it Acquittal.
Dems won't accept acquittal.
originally posted by: cognizant420
a reply to: network dude
I still cant believe trump was impeached over hearsay and a secret whistleblower. Just dont seem right.
originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical
originally posted by: cognizant420
a reply to: network dude
I still cant believe trump was impeached over hearsay and a secret whistleblower. Just dont seem right.
He wasn't. Even some Republicans admit he is guilty as charged but don't think it worthy of being removed from office. They do need to write notes justifying their votes which will be part of the record. a good majority of the notes will say the same, Guilty, but not worthy of being removed from office. You all know if the tables were flipped you would be screaming bloody murder.
Plus the whole Biden thing is pretty easily disproved when looked at through the eyes of the Uk investigation going on at that time into Burisma which Shokin blocked from obtaining evidence while shutting down his own investigation.
That ain't lemonade you all are drinking.
originally posted by: Gojira54
The democrats have proven time and time again that they ONLY accept things when they get 100% of what they want.
They are like spoiled children. If they don't get 100% of their way 100% of the time, they throw temper tantrums.
Just look at how liberals are acting on social media today. The REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE is as loud as ever
originally posted by: game over man
Why are you being rude? What is the point of that besides getting stars from the Trump Cult. You know exactly what I said, you know the history of the US. You tried to be slick with you're wording and you contradicted yourself. I mentioned before it's a common and predictable trait of Trump Cultists to ignore things that are non-biased, such as the link listing countries and the date their current Constitution was created, it's not part of your agenda so you just write a weird post attempting to be condescending and judgemental.
The irony of a Trump cultists using the word flexible with the impeachment trial. 😂