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Bush Sr., Gannon and child sex slave network?

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posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 04:34 PM
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Read the following article which opens w. former CIA head William Colby saying that George Bush Sr. was involved in a sadistic pedophile network. The source is a reputable former government employee, a decorated veteran. www.davidicke.net...
Colby was found drowned in a river not long afterward. Colby reportedly described Warren Buffet and Bush Sr. as being part of the larger web of the Monarch Project, which is literally hideous, say other writers (child kidnapping, torture and mind control, a la MKULTRA for later activation and use as split personality sex slaves, assassins and, more importantly, drug couriers.) See: www.outpost-of-freedom.com... for details.

Definitely weird, but William Colby was a pro, and the Franklin case in Omaha is famous: a ritual child abuse story that Sherman Skolnick and one mother of a victim child suggest may involve Bush Jr.'s male prostitute Gannon, who Skolnick suggest is actually named Gosch (a boy kidnapped and tortured for use in a super-rich mens kind of child sex and S & M network of high level "operatives.") Ironically, Gannon is reported to have specialized in S&M torture methods. Is Gannon the Gosch who was kidnapped as a child? Was Bush Sr. part of the Monarch Program, an intelligence op to use children as split personality operatives? One of the documents above talks about how the monarch butterfly logo is used to identify the abused, then used child products of the program: it is the definitive symbol.

Ironically, in Disclosure, Steven Greer writes about Operation Monarch, the deep black government smuggling of huge quantities of narcotics for use in super secret reverse engineered programs. Question: Did abused Monarch Program children (abused to be sex and murder "slaves") get used also for Operation Monarch, because they were so easily controlled and eliminated if they became troublesome?

Read the two stories above. WARNING: they are shocking! The book, The Franklin Cover-up, by De Camp, describes the reported William Colby allegations about Bush Sr and Warren Buffet, among others. We know the CIA did sex related abuse of children for operative purposes, but the above stories show a larger network of children/teens and young adults used as slaves, allegedly.

I'm not alleging, either way, just throwing this subject out for your info sake. Gannon has been described as a Monarch Program child-turned-adult operative.

Imagine: power and control freaks (brutal big money players) being involved in prostitution and murder... Is that possible?

[edit on 9-3-2005 by gl2]




posted on Mar, 10 2005 @ 11:45 PM
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Nice post, GL2. In fact it gets even better. Apparently former FBI Senior Special Agent-in-Charge Ted Gunderson called into the "Mysteries of the Mind" radio show on March 8th and said that "Jeff Gannon" is actually kidnapped paperboy Johnny Gosch.


www.parapolitics.info...


Ted Gunderson, formerly the FBI Special Agent in Charde of the Los Angles, and for more than 25 years a private investigator, appeared on the "Mysteries of the Mind" radio program March 8 where he confirmed that he has "a credible, reliable source that says 'Jeff Gannon' is indeed kidnapped paperboy Johnny Gosch.

Gunderson claimed that "Gannon" has scar on right cheek; and Noreen Gosch has looked at the mark on "Gannon" in photographs and said it was the same as that as on her son.

Gunderson agrees with analysis on the Internet that a birthmark (Gosch's is said to be in the "shape of South America") looks to have been removed from Gannon's chest.

Gunderson said, "I think Jeff Gannon is Johnny Gosch, and I think he planned this to get even with them for screwing up his life from age 12 on." Gunderson suspects Gannon's planned book, as reported by the Russian press, "will be truthful and he will expose these people."

Later in the program, host Alex Merklinger, a long time correspondent of Mrs. Gosch, received an email from Noreen Gosch wherein she said that "Jeff Gannon" is living in the Dupont Circle area of Washington, DC and is not in hiding. She asked Gunderson's opinion of "Gannon"'s safety.

They have links to the audio on the site. This is a huge link because if true, it connects the Franklin scandal with the current administration.

I suggest anybody who cares about children to watch the banned video "Conspiracy of Silence". If you can't download it off a file-sharing service then ask a friend to get it for you. This is a massive piece of information and if Jeff Gannon comes forward to confirm it, the spin-doctors should be out in full force.

Ted Gunderson's website www.tedgunderson.com...

The Johny Gosch Foundation www.johnnygosch.com...





[edit on 10-3-2005 by smallpeeps]



posted on Mar, 11 2005 @ 11:27 AM
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Here's a portion of the conversation between Ted Gunderson and Alex Merklinger on March 8th:



MERKLINGER: Let's for a minute, Ted, get back to this Jeff Gannon. This is an interesting situation even before we compare and look at the possibilities as to who he really might be, but Gannon has spent as I understand it, from sources that I have too, quite a few, let's say, nights, in the White House.

GUNDERSON: Yes.

MERKLINGER: And interestingly enough, one of those, --I think Tony Blair was over there during the same time. Now, unless this Jeff Gannon has some other... [laughs] other talents, like taking shorthand or reporting for this, uh news company that he works for, why would he be spending nights in the White House up with George Bush and whomever else?

GUNDERSON: Well, let me just answer you in this regard...

MERKLINGER: Okay.

GUNDERSON: ...first of all, I have a credible, reliable source who advises me, that Jeff Gannon is in fact Johnny Gosch.

MERKLINGER: Right, okay.

GUNDERSON: Okay?

MERKLINGER: Yeah.

GUNDERSON: Now Jeff Gannon, there are pictures of him on the Internet and he has a scar under his right cheek the size of a nickel. Noreen Gosch has looked at that and she says it appears, --that's the same scar that Johnny Gosch has. He also has, --Gannon has what appears to be the, --a birthmark on his left chest and it's shaped like South America, and in the pictures of Jeff Gannon it appears there's been an attempt to get rid of that or remove it...

MERKLINGER: Yes. Right.

GUNDERSON: Now, there's one of the kids that I talked to, I forget his name offhand. Jim something, who was one of the kids in the Franklin case that had been branded, --they branded these kids back in the eighties. He told me that Johnny Gosch was branded on his hip. Now I haven't seen any pictures of Jeff Gannon's hip, but it's not likely that he's gonna get rid of a brand-mark. They brand them just like cattle.

MERKLINGER: That's right.

GUNDERSON: And so he has the birthmark, he has the scar on his lower right cheek, and plus I have a very reliable source, confidential source, who says it is in fact Johnny Gosch, and what I think has happened is, --I personally think that Jeff Gannon is Johnny Gosch and I think that he had planned this all along to get even with them for screwing up his life from age twelve on.

MERKLINGER: Well, okay, let's talk about that for a minute because if indeed that's the case, then I have to feel that somewhere within the psyche of this Jeff Gannon, the soul of Johnny Gosch is still there and he's still holding on to some portion of reality and what life should be about. I've also heard that Jeff Gannon is supposedly writing a book about his life.

GUNDERSON: Right.

MERKLINGER: If that's true, what is he going to say? Is it going to be a truthful book as to who he is and if indeed he is Johnny Gosch, or is it gonna be some, you know, some political makeover where it's gonna look like, "Oh no, this guy's not Johnny Gosch at all'?

GUNDERSON: Uh, I don't have the answer to that right now. I rather strongly suspect that it's going to be a truthful book, and he's going to expose these people in Washington DC, because I rather suspect he despises them, --I think he's had this planned for years. You know, right after he was kidnapped he was taken to a place in hiding, a house in Sioux City, Iowa...

MERKLINGER: Right, right.

GUNDERSON: ...and then he was shipped to Colorado and that where [it's] reported that Michael Aquino caught up with him. And then later on I heard that Johnny had escaped with another kid, they stole a car and escaped...

MERKLINGER: Yeah.

GUNDERSON: ...but apparently, --I don't know if they caught up with them or if he voluntarily came back and decided to go after them, but in 1997 Johnny showed up at Noreen Gosch's house at 2:30 in the morning with another young man...

MERKLINGER: That's correct.

GUNDERSON: ...and at that time, he told her that he had been kidnapped for project Monarch, a government program [that] trained him as a prostitute/pornographer, drugs and special government covert operations.

MERKLINGER: Right.

GUNDERSON: So I really think that Johnny Gosch is gonna end up being a hero because I think he planned this all along, and I think, --I undertand he has receipts and pictures and I don't think that there's any question. I think that this is smart, shrewd, and he outfoxed them.

MERKLINGER: If that's the case I sure hope he's in hiding and that's he in a very safe place.

GUNDERSON: Well I don't know if he's in hiding or not but I know this: He better be in hiding if he isn't.

MERKLINGER: You betcha.

GUNDERSON: But also he was on a radio show out of San Diego, here, two days ago.

MERKLINGER: Really? Okay.

GUNDERSON: That's what I heard. Now he's got a website and it's www.jeffgannon.com. And also, he has pictures of him with George Bush and with other people, I understand, and those pictures are on a website called www.americablog.com, and those are the pictures where you can see the tattoo-- not the tattoo but the birthmark on his chest...

MERKLINGER: Right, yes.

GUNDERSON: ...and the scar on his lower right cheek.

MERKLINGER: Yeah. I've seen those. I heard that the brand was on his buttocks, but it could be the same thing as on his hip couldn't it?

GUNDERSON: Yeah, yeah.

MERKLINGER: And I've seen other pictures that he had had on his site, where he's nude but it doesn't show the side where this brand might come through.

GUNDERSON: Well he might be holding that back for the last minute. Drama. Who knows, you know?

MERKLINGER: [laughter] Could be. Could be.

GUNDERSON: Well you know, I think this is an amazing development. I believe this is the break we've been waiting for to expose this evil element in Washington DC, and if you notice that the mainstream media isn't picking up on it...

MERKLINGER: Not one bit. My gosh.

GUNDERSON: No. Now there's a story, --I think Skolnick out of Chicago claims that Valerie Plame, --who was running seventy-some CIA operatives under the guise of being Coca-Cola executives around the world, that her husband made an uncomplimentary remark about George Bush and that Bush gave, --exposed these people through Jeff Gannon, to Novak. What's Novak's first name?

MERKLINGER: Oh yeah, uh...

GUNDERSON: Robert, is it?

MERKLINGER: Robert Novak. Right.

GUNDERSON: Robert Novak, you remember, I think here [in the] last month or so they'd been after Novak to expose his sources. His source, now I believe reportedly, is Jeff Gannon.

MERKLINGER: Really?

GUNDERSON: That's what I believe, yeah.

MERKLINGER: Interesting. ...I just got an email from Noreen... And she says that Jeff Gannon is living in DC, in the Dupont Circle area. He's not in hiding, as we once thought. And I'll hold off, rather than read on the air some of the other stuff that Noreen says but she asks if you think that Gannon, or whomever, is in danger of being killed.

GUNDERSON: Well yes, I'm very concerned about it.

MERKLINGER: Yes me too. Me too.

To connect the Franklin child abuse scandal to Jeff Gannon would be amazing. I hope we get more coverage and clarification about this in the weeks to come.





[edit on 11-3-2005 by smallpeeps]



posted on Mar, 11 2005 @ 01:00 PM
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Can't get the son, so now you try and trash the father.

Despicable.

(on you)



posted on Mar, 11 2005 @ 02:14 PM
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Can't get the son, so now you try and trash the father.

How am I being despicable, Centurion? Don't you care about children? I guess you have to heartless to be a true Roman, eh? If a few kiddies need to be sacrificed to preserve the Empire, I guess it's worth it. All those little kids are just mortar for the walls that defend Rome?

Do you really think George Bush is at risk from some dudes on the Internet? Wow. I always thought he was pretty much the most powerful guy on the planet. You know? Head of the CIA, President, father of the current President, etc.

I guess you're right. We should let up on the old guy. He's had a tough life. Not tough like being chained to a bed as a sex slave, mind you, but tough in its own way.



posted on Mar, 11 2005 @ 02:18 PM
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smallpeeps; I was working on the same piece but put it away for a later date I'm glad you posted it below is the Media links to listen to the interview

Well I still don’t know if there is any truth in Gannon/Guckert being Johnny Gosch
At first I thought the Bush Administration was using it to some how deflect attention from them selves, but now it seams that it has backfired. Gannon is now supposedly writing a book about his life I wonder if it will be a whitewash, or will he claim to be Johnny Gosch and mention the Finders and the DOD.


Noreen Gosch has seen a scar on Gannon’s right cheek and a birthmark ; she claims her son Johnny has them as well. Certainly not much to prove Gosh and Gannon are one in the same.
Ted Gunderson an X-FBI agent had called into a talk show “ Mysteries Of The Mind hosted by Alex Merklinger .
Mr. Merklinger and Mr. Gunderson both claim to know Noreen Gosch very well in one email she sent to Merklinger in it she says Jeff Gannon is living in the Dupont Circle area of Washington DC.
How would she know where Gannon is living?

Gunderson said, "I think Jeff Gannon is Johnny Gosch, and I think he planned this to get even with them for screwing up his life from age 12 on." Gunderson suspects Gannon's planned book, as reported by the Russian press, "will be truthful and he will expose these people."


Here's the audio; Gunderson calls in about 29:40 into the program

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centurion this is for you see the date 1989
this is not about Republicans or Democrat's it's about pedohiles, and gay prostitution that is all through your government.




Source: The Franklin Coverup Scandal
The Child sex ring that reached Bush/Reagan Whitehouse



posted on Mar, 11 2005 @ 06:39 PM
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Sauron, I'm with you: This is about helpless children, not any partisan politics. I loathe Dems and Repubs equally just for the sheer sheeplike behavior displayed by both sides. I voted Green Party in the last election just to give the finger to the system.
(not THAT finger..)

It is utterly shocking how few Americans will even move their fat-arse to look under this rock. I guess we've become so satisfied and complacent that it has to be OUR kid who gets stolen before we'll get up and do something about it. Why worry about thousands of kidnapped and tortured kids when my riding mower needs an oil change?



posted on Mar, 11 2005 @ 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by centurion1211
Can't get the son, so now you try and trash the father.

Despicable.

(on you)


This is hardly new Cent. Where you been? The Bush 41 White House sex ring was well exposed during his term (as quickly as it was all covered up).

As the Moonie Times kept digging is when Bush Sr. started working for Moon on the global circuit as well, and then the whole thing *died.*

I ask you, why would an already rich man, former CIA Director, President and soon to be ex-President, go about associating with the Reverend Moon that had just trashed him unless he had too?

For the money? The $100K Bush Sr. gets for his *dedication ceremonies* on behalf of Moon is rather paltry to an oil tycoon wouldn't you say?

So if it's not the money, then what? He's a Moonie?
Well could be. But it's more likely his CIA life has hooks some string pullers have found.

And what of his kids? The *Dynasty* ... Nasty is more like it. Neil Bush?
And little Georgie and Jeb aren't great parents either are they?



[edit on 11-3-2005 by RANT]



posted on Mar, 15 2005 @ 12:09 AM
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This thing is snowballing and I can't be more happy, shout it from the rooftops. It's now or never!

--

(a must listen to! that is if you can handle it it might make you sick!)



Elite Sex Slave Rings: The Gannon-Thompson Connection

Alex Jones interviews Tom Flocco on his latest story, Photographer for White House child sex ring arrested after Thompson suicide, and is also joined by former Senator John DeCamp to discuss the evidence of high level government pedophile rings and how they tie into the Jeff Gannon and Hunter S. Thompson stories.

Problems listening to the audio? Play the audio directly in Real Player or download the video using the following link -

www.prisonplanet.tv...


and a link to the tom flocco article (a must read)

tomflocco.com...



posted on Mar, 15 2005 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by RANT

Originally posted by centurion1211
Can't get the son, so now you try and trash the father.

Despicable.

(on you)


This is hardly new Cent. Where you been? The Bush 41 White House sex ring was well exposed during his term (as quickly as it was all covered up).



I took this as simply and purely character assassination before, and I still feel that way. How to tell? It's all aimed in only one direction. With guys like Clinton, he got a pass on all his crimes with women, even from NOW because they shared an ideology with him. Selling out your sisters for political gain. Guess for some the ends do justify the means.



posted on Mar, 15 2005 @ 03:47 PM
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IF IF IF the allegations are true, and I believe they are..

Centurion
Are you comparing the cigar disappearing act and a few polishings of the presidential knob to the systematic kidnapping, brainwashing, rape, torture, and in some cases MURDER of small children? I think there is a line between the two..it's about as wide as the Grand Canyon.

I understand you hold partisanship dear the way most people cradle their racism, but if these allegations are true, your beloved party will burn to the ground, and if you make any attempt to apoligize for them, nobody will be able to protect you from the legions of fathers and mothers who WILL have their vengeance.

I don't like Democrats, but I REALLY don't like pedophiles, rapists, and murderers. I'm stunned you feel the way you do, especially considering the fact that the democrats will likely be implicated as well. They are most certainly culpable, everyone knows Clinton was the CIA's baby.

That being said..there is a chance this is the final, most extreme blackmail possible, reserved for when nothing else will do. Perhaps Bush is a great crusader against evil, but he sure doesn't come off that way... I guess we'll just have to wait and see, cover your eyes and wear a poncho, because the # is about to hit the fan.



posted on Mar, 15 2005 @ 07:02 PM
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Question:

What is the link to the Washington Times article?

Question #2:

Is this an ongoing court case? If not then this is purely anti American BS. If there was evidence and William Colby, ec head of the FBI had evidence of it and told the public, then I would expect that someone would of been charged with something and there would of been a court case.


So can someone U2U me the answers because all it takes is a little common sense to end the 1,000 posts on the subject. Im sick of reading about it.

And if there is evidence that is not obfuscated into all the BS and uncredible sources, please present them clearly.


gl2

posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 06:58 PM
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I mis-stated one aspect. It was John De Camp who told Colby that Bush Sr. and others were glancingly implicated in the Franklin case. David Icke aside (I haven't looked at much of his stuff), the forward to De Camp's book is posted on Icke's site. I didn't mean to get into a discussion about Icke. I just ordered The Franklin Cover-up on Amazon and will check it out, directly.

So, a Nebraska state legislator, De Camp, who worked with William Colby, is quoted talking w. Colby about The Franklin case. The Finders case and numerous others substantiate the general pattern. Maggie's story is heart-breaking. The weirdest aspect is that, according to De Camp, the sadistic, child slave aspect (i.e. MKULTRA-which was based on Nazi torture experiments, believe it or not, to run robotic Cold War operatives) is quoted as involving big money people in Omaha and elsewhere. For anyone who has investigated ANY major city in the US, the story may sound plausible. Prostitutes are routinely kidnapped, beaten, then trapped into their work, shipped in from Taiwan and elsewhere. Once the usual subcultural (physical culture) circles in a city use such women, which they do on a regular basis, and once the CIA and other mass criminal bodies use such people for cold blooded assignments, the Monarch story is just one small step away, in terms of plausibility. I personally think that the story may be true. Maggie would be but one person stifled by a typically corrupt city structure, from finding out about the ugliest details. Indeed, in all human history, ghastly crimes of the sort have occurred: remember Rome, the aristocracies of Europe abusing commoner women, the crimes of Rafael Trujillo Molina in Santo Domingo, and more? It happens. In the richest, most efficiently corrupt nation on earth, it can be hidden all the more effectively. Black budget programs kill many and use others like animals.

In short, rather than be implausible and inconsistent with the evidence, the Monarch story appears to be continuous with both the character and the crimes of such offenders.

I just read about the child sex/murder story having a link in the Sacramento area, just 15 years ago (a reported child sex/snuff murder driving from Sacramento to Bohemian Grove, where it was reportedly done on camera--unspeakable details. See: portland.indymedia.org...

Also, here's a quote by Noreen Gosch, the woman whose young son was stolen, then he returned, years later to tell his mom what had been done to him (abducted by a group that tied themselves into a black budget program of child sex/filming project that targeted government officials w. lavish come-ons for blackmail purposes).

On the link above, Noreen, founder of a child kidap prevention organization, says this:

"You also had a mysterious visitor from Washington. Are you still in touch with this person?

Nobody has been able to find him. I have had people looking for him for the last 10 years. He knew a tremendous amount and he was part of the CIA. I think he was sent here to do a job, find out what I knew and how I was proceeding on the case. He was also right by my side when I testified in Washington. About three or four months later he vanished.

Do you think he had a connection with former CIA Director William Colby who helped his longtime protegee, John DeCamp, in the Franklin affair?

Yes, I think he did have a connection with Mr. Colby.

He had with him--and this is what convinced me--a complete dossier on every member of my family, even those who were deceased. He had information about their lives that could have never been public.

The key to this whole scandal involving Johnny and the Franklin affair and all of this child kidnapping and molestation is the very scary story of "mind control" experiments conducted by our own government agencies and those of foreign intelligence agencies.

Yes, it is. In my book, I tell the story of Michael Aquino [head of the Satanic cult, the Temple of Set]. You see, when Johnny was taken away, he was taken to a farmhouse and kept there for two weeks. After those two weeks, Johnny was sold for a sum of money. A man they called "the colonel," came and took Johnny to Colorado. Paul Bonacci identified that man as Col. Michael Aquino.

Aquino was involved in "psy-ops" and "mind war" experimentation for the U.S. government. He had a hand in developing mind control.

Unfortunately they began to experiment on men in the services--this is the concept of "The Manchurian Candidate"--one that could be turned into a killing machine and never remember, programmed by key words and phrases. Then they decided to experiment on prisoners in prisons.

Then along came Michael Aquino, who was already a pedophile. He and others thought that it would be financially beneficial to them, somehow, to begin to experiment on children. That's when they began taking children.

Imagine the tremendous power of mind control using pornography and drugs.

According to what Paul Bonacci and others have stated, after they used the techniques they did with Paul (using him during the day and then returning them to their homes), the children wouldn't remember what had happened because of the mind control. Then they decided to take children out of their stable home situations. They now wanted to see if it would work on kids who had stable family lives.

They already knew that it would work with runaways and with kids in controlled situations like Boys Town in Omaha.

That's right. That's when, in the early 1980s, there was a rash of kidnappings of young boys across the country. Many were deemed "runaways." There were only a handful who were taken who actually made the national headlines. Johnny was one of them.

That was in part because you were so persistent.

Two years after Johnny was taken, they came back to this city and took another paperboy named Eugene Martin, who is still missing and never found. But Johnny and Paul Bonacci (and a third witness who is too afraid to come forward) have told me that the same people who took Johnny also took Eugene.

John DeCamp has helped bring the photographer, Rusty Nelson, out into the open. He's the photographer who took the pictures that were part of this pedophile ring's operations.

Nelson was the photographer who took the pictures of Johnny being molested. He was also the photographer they used in Washington for all the parties that Lawrence King had where prominent people were in attendance."

Last, but not least, see the Tom Flocco story about this subject. ONE OF THE BEST MAINSTREAM NEWS STORIES ON THIS, TO DATE: tomflocco.com... old=0

What can we do? Raise the awareness, beat the drum loudly so that others know. Spread these stories. Talk to law enforcement people who have the guts to go after such cases. Investigate privately, if you can, but watch out: the suspects are murderous. Keep your cover and avoid exposures, if you do so. Help us expose the larger network of corruption into which this kind of nightmare feeds. Michael, above, is correct: rich, super-rich drones of the philosophy of complete selfishness get caught up in schemes of who's got what on whom (who owns whom) in their power circles. The Monarch crime are but one small step away from what they do, as long as they keep their mouths shut. Humans under the influence of mind control can do atrocious things, i.e. the reports on the links in this posting. In the Milgram experiments of the 50's, test subjects pressed buttons to deliver ostensibly fatal electrical jolts to unseen test subjects (not actually shocked w. the fatal jolts). It's a famous experiment.



posted on Mar, 18 2005 @ 07:33 AM
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I wonder if this is somehow connected :

www.abovetopsecret.com...

What do you guys think?



posted on Mar, 23 2005 @ 07:29 PM
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Yep Bush sr. is a sicko it appears. But so are several others in power.

www.infowars.com...

www.topekadiy.com...

www.propagandamatrix.com...



posted on Mar, 24 2005 @ 04:09 AM
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For more info about what's been happening to the 20,000 childern who "dissapper" in America every year, check out the book
"The Biggest Secret" by David Icke. The chapter Where Have All the Childern Gone?

You can find it at any Barnes & Noble bookstore, or other bookstores. Most of them allow you to read it for free (they even have chairs and tables for customers who want to read for free.) Or if you can afford it, buy it and read it anytime.

He lists sooo much evidence, and cases, and all his sources. There's one case in which tunnels were later found underneath some nursery/boarding home. Years after the kids there told tales how they were led through the tunnels to meet with people who'd take them to specal places to do training, mind control stuff, and sicko sex stuff. Icke pulls no punches, so make sure your stomach is empty while you read that chapter!

[edit on 24-3-2005 by OpenSecret2012]




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