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Capture of Saddam was staged says ex-US Marine

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posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 06:36 PM
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What about the other 19 members of his team that he claims was apart of Saddam's capture?

How about the Army Special Forces that the media says was responsible?

The bottom line is: This ex-Marine is a liar and a disgrace to the Corps!




posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 06:56 PM
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Here we go again, turdblossom bait in full bloom, and whats funny is some actually believe it!




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posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by Intelearthling
What about the other 19 members of his team that he claims was apart of Saddam's capture?

How about the Army Special Forces that the media says was responsible?

The bottom line is: This ex-Marine is a liar and a disgrace to the Corps!


You make some very valid points. I also find it Odd that they would not be saying the very same thing. No doubt if any of them come forward he will call them liars, who knows?



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
I would sell my story too if somebody will make me the right offer.


Many would change their story too if someone made them the right offer



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by Frith
Anyway, we know straight from Jessica Lynch that the government version of events surrounding her rescue were fabricated. Why couldn't the capture of somebody be fabricated for propoganda purposes as well?


Exactly. Who's Jessica after all, a decorated soldier or a disgrace to teh Army? Somebody help me.

I believe the Saddam-in-the-hole story could be a psy-op. If the news broke that he put up a fierce gunfight, that would garner him some unwanted respect. So we got the spider hole instead.



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 07:32 PM
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odd since an ARMY unit captured him, not any marines.



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by namehere
odd since an ARMY unit captured him, not any marines.


And how do you know that?

I'm not saying this new story is true at all, and yet... It automatically explains the discrepancy.



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 07:38 PM
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IMHO the theory of him being captured by the Kurds and being handed over to the US makes more sense than the Marines claim.

www.correspondences.org...



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 07:42 PM
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as posted by Ritual
Why would someone with a billion trillion dollars, an army under his control, and a whole country to hide in , live in a low tech 10 foot deep hole?

For simply the reasons that you have just stated: it would be the least of all places to go looking for him. Perhaps, if he had been captured at a nice pool-side resort motel in Syria or in Basra, it would have been more convincing?



as posted by Marg
Actually we will know more and more of the truth when more people start spilling the beans for money.


Would that be the same as selling your soul?
As has been mentioned previously, money is a great motivator for changing the actual happening and vice versa. What I do find a bit ironic about this, is that he is one of a number of groups who were involved in capturing Saddam, but no Marine units. As such, he is the only one to spill the beans while none of the others have? Major suspicion here.

Siberian Tiger, how many times does someone have to tell you that Joe Vaills is bunk? Shame, shame.



as posted by dgtempe
This government wouldnt lie, would they?

Sure they would, dgtempe.
They lie like any other government on the face of this earth.
Again,the irony is as I have mentioned above when I made comment to Marg (points up).


And Anok, that is a claim that may have some validity for the Kurds. In the end all though, Saddam was captured. DNA tells no lie.




seekerof



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 07:57 PM
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I did a quick search, and could not find any other source for this story. I also went to United Press International and could not find the article.

about.upi.com...

Why would only a local news station (WHAM13) have the first break in this story? Hmmm...

Maybe someone else can find another source.



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 08:04 PM
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Saddam was captured by an Army unit, so the first question is why is this Marine attached to an Army unit? It's not impossible, but the US Army has plenty of Arab-speaking members. It is unlikely that they would have to borrow one from the Corps, but it's possible.

It is also possible the event was staged. Psy-Ops are an important part of warfare, but let us also remember all those imbedded reporters. Do you think such an elaborate scheme would have escaped the notice of any reporter worth his salt or that he would have remained silent for longer than this individual.

As of now, no one here knows the truth and there is little, if any, corroboration.

And by the way, there is no such thing as an ex-Marine.

[edit on 05/3/9 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by Partyof1 He also was allowed to meet with red cross personel and others who I'm sure examined him and talked with him about his capture and how he was treated during the ordeal.


Actually the red cross personnel who examined him at the time said they were not allowed to ask him questions like you are saying. Pretty much nothing more than "how many fingers am I holding up? does this hurt? how about this?"

Also how many months was it before he was allowed to speak to a lawyer? Why was that? Perhaps the Actor needed more time to rehearse his lines.



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by Legalizer


Also how many months was it before he was allowed to speak to a lawyer? Why was that? Perhaps the Actor needed more time to rehearse his lines.


What about the 'Sadam' that was in front of the Judge? We all saw him and heard him. Was he an actor as well?

If so, that was a damn good actor. IMO



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 11:10 PM
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Well i cant say this story cant be true, as it does have some good points, but their is plenty of holes in it.
But it annoyes me with all these conservatives come on here and rather believe FOX news over a soldiers word.



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 11:19 PM
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Sadaam's wife certainly knew the truth. She was allowed a visit and they dragged her out later as she was screaming "That man is not my husband..." Just a wild guess here, but I'd say the woman would know her husband if she saw him. Of course the trial of Saddam was supposed to be left to the Iraqi people, but that plan changed pretty quick once the American military was well established. Just a few months ago I saw an item on the local broadcast news that military legal specialist were flying out of Fort Brag to Iraq to help violate our agreement and prosecute Saddam through American entities.



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by twitchy
Sadaam's wife certainly knew the truth. She was allowed a visit and they dragged her out later as she was screaming "That man is not my husband..." Just a wild guess here, but I'd say the woman would know her husband if she saw him.


I've never heard this. Do you have a link, or know who reported on it? This certainly would raise some questions. For sure a woman would know her own husband.



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 11:29 PM
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Lots of info on it, hang on lemme look...
english.pravda.ru...
www.rense.com...
www.thetruthseeker.co.uk...
www.cloakanddagger.ca...
www.prisonplanet.tv...
www.cleveland.com...
That should get you started...
www.google.com...

Edit:
Here's another interesing angle...
www.sundayherald.com...


[edit on 9-3-2005 by twitchy]



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 11:33 PM
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That's crazy! How did I miss this? It'll take me a while to read through the links, but they sure seem interesting. (Now, back to reading.)


Edit: After reading through all the links provided, I've realized they are all from the same source and are all the same article. Are there anymore reports of her claiming he is not her husband? I'm not immediately discrediting the source, but I do like to read several sources prior to making an opinion or believing something to be fact.

[edit on 9-3-2005 by SourGrapes]



posted on Mar, 10 2005 @ 12:05 AM
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Yeah I apologise for some of the sources, the story vanished from the mainstream media pretty quick. You can still find it on alot of Islamic publications and I think it is still on Asia Times somewhere, I'm digging...



posted on Mar, 10 2005 @ 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by Seekerof

as posted by Ritual
Why would someone with a billion trillion dollars, an army under his control, and a whole country to hide in , live in a low tech 10 foot deep hole?

For simply the reasons that you have just stated: it would be the least of all places to go looking for him. Perhaps, if he had been captured at a nice pool-side resort motel in Syria or in Basra, it would have been more convincing?


seekerof


For someone who runs ATS you are pretty dumb Seeker.

Dont quote me out of context.

And use common sense before replying. Did you see anyone else making dumbass rebuttals? No. Takes a two year old to understand my original post. Dont try and make a post akin to spam reaffirming common sense logic.



It is known the US has infrared and XRAY. Why would he make himself stand out in a 10 foot hole? He wouldnt. They arent that dumb.

He would be in a city. It is alot harder logistically for the US to find a person in a city. And he would have his army there to fight if ever there was a chance he would be found.

So whatever I dont buy it, but who knows. They could of gambled.


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