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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Ahabstar
The house dems and their forced partisan impeachment vote is in no way fair.
Dont even try that.
Fair would have been going to court to get testimony.
That is fair.
Due process.
originally posted by: Admitted
Even more so if we don't see all the evidence. The House failed. I don't want the Senate to fail.
originally posted by: Admitted
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Admitted
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Admitted
a reply to: DBCowboy
I would think you would want him to. But ok. If you don't care, you don't care.
Why would I care?
This is purely political.
It is an attack from democrats to oust a sitting president.
That's all this is.
So, the withholding of aid for an investigation into a political rival is just bupkus? A farce? Completely false?
Aid was not withheld, Ukraine received it.
The many people to have attested to such are just bipartisan and want the President out?
Yes.
That's what you believe?
Lets look at facts.
Ukraine got their aid.
The president, if he so chooses, can ask any nation a question surrounding corruption.
these two items are facts.
Indisputable.
They got their aid AFTER a whistleblower said why it was being withheld.
The president can ask any nation a question surrouding corruption but he didn't. He said ZERO about corruption. Read the transcript, as you like to say. He asked about Biden and his son.
And I don't care about Biden or his son. They can be investigated and burned at the stake...what is wrong here is that the president is using his power to influence a foreign gov't to help his re-election.
I'm aware that the house got the witnesses they could get without long court battles.
The White House prevented many from testifying.
Those are who I want to hear from.
originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: Admitted
Biden and his Son was in reference to Corruption.
Just because you're running for President doesn't shield you from investigations based on the premise that a President is trying to interfere with political rivals you dolt, lmfao.
That's the fallback excuse, ignore the corruption and focus on the political soundbite because why not?
You had the Hosue investigation for that, beyond that is the failings of the Houses ability to govern.
originally posted by: Admitted
originally posted by: Arnie123
Judging by your OP and perspective, I'm not so sure you'll recognize Truth if it reached up and bit you on your arse.
originally posted by: Admitted
a reply to: shooterbrody
That's the truth.
I would love to hear from some too.
The math does suck here. But mostly the partisanship.
No offense, but you're trying to approach this through an emotional appeal and quite frankly, that doesn't work in hyper partisan environements, see CNN, MSNBC for examples.
You mimic the same language and it's nauseating.
So hearing the truth from direct witnesses would be too emotional to be credible?
Give me a break.
originally posted by: Admitted
originally posted by: burntheships
originally posted by: Admitted
I want the whole truth. I want firsthand witnesses.
You had them already.
Like an election, you can't stop the process because
you do not like the results.
No. I haven't. No firsthand witnesses. No Bolton, Pompeo, Trump himself, Mulvaney.
Not one. The senate can provide that. The house should have.