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Sander's Field Organizers Talk About Militancy And Violence Towards Property

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posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 04:35 PM
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Half of them don't even know what gender they are so i'm not worried.




posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 04:37 PM
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a reply to: PurpleFox

What's gender anyway, all we have is gentrification.

Keep em coming, I'm on a roll today.



posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 04:38 PM
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Militancy and violence toward the citizens is why there is a second amendment. There will be little of that after the first efforts of the Comrades.

I believe that Bernie is not capable of leading anything at any level and that he really doesn't want to. He opted to let Hillary have the aggravation of being POTUS as long as her platform contained some of his ideas. He preferred another beach house and an $80,000 Audi sports car to the work of a President. Congress wouldn't give him what he wanted and could override any Veto by him. Remember, he has never worked before, in or out of Congress. At best, he had a couple of post offices renamed and is essentially a lazy blowhard.



posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

Sanders biggest liability is that many of his supporters are just plain nuts.

It's going to really bite him in the ass unless he distances himself from them right away.

The average American simply won't vote for a nut - whether or not he's a Dem nut or a GOP nut.

Some Trump voters notwithstanding, of course...



posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: pteridine

I don’t know why y’all think Bernie had a choice. He lost, fake or true, and he wasn’t going to be able to do anything about it in that environment, other than try again in a few years, like now.

As to “spending money on a house and car”, well, homes and cars cost money. He’s a middle class American. Either you are being intentionally dishonest, or you really have no clue about his message and platform. I do, so I can tell you that his problem is not with people having a million dollars. His problem isn’t with people buying cars or homes. If you think that’s what his problem is, then go to his site. Listen to his podcast on rogan. Watch a few interviews or talks he gives. Cause otherwise you sound like someone who has never smoked weed, telling other people what it’s like to smoke weed. “You’ll be out there sucking dks and turning tricks for your weed addiction!” That’s how far off you are.



posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: Riffrafter
a reply to: shawmanfromny

Sanders biggest liability is that many of his supporters are just plain nuts.

It's going to really bite him in the ass unless he distances himself from them right away.

The average American simply won't vote for a nut - whether or not he's a Dem nut or a GOP nut.

Some Trump voters notwithstanding, of course...






And yet he’s the most popular US representative period. He’s the candidate with the largest amount of popular support in this election and last. He’s the candidate who has had the most donations by far. All this flies in the face of your statement.
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posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: pteridine




Militancy and violence toward the citizens is why there is a second amendment. There will be little of that after the first efforts of the Comrades.


Reads more like Amazon workers starting to destroy Amazon property.

Go ahead and shoot them for taking back the means of production from Jeff on Benzos? Whatever, we have robots anyway. All we need to figure out is how to make them order stuff on Amazon. It's perfect!




posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: pexx421
a reply to: pteridine
I don’t know why y’all think Bernie had a choice. He lost, fake or true, and he wasn’t going to be able to do anything about it in that environment, other than try again in a few years, like now.
As to “spending money on a house and car”, well, homes and cars cost money. He’s a middle class American. Either you are being intentionally dishonest, or you really have no clue about his message and platform. I do, so I can tell you that his problem is not with people having a million dollars. His problem isn’t with people buying cars or homes. If you think that’s what his problem is, then go to his site. Listen to his podcast on rogan. Watch a few interviews or talks he gives. Cause otherwise you sound like someone who has never smoked weed, telling other people what it’s like to smoke weed. “You’ll be out there sucking dks and turning tricks for your weed addiction!” That’s how far off you are.


Y'all? I guess if you count my evil doppelganger, you could use that colloquialism. I liked that cute good 'ol boy thing about smoking weed. It's not original but cute, anyway. Are you addicted?

He’s a middle class American worth $2.5 million and that has at least three Dachas. His wife has her own psychological problems. She was apparently not prosecuted for bank fraud after she tanked the college she was president of after lying about loan collaterals. Very socialist of her.
Yep, he's nothing but the common-man, middle-class American Communist who seems to like being enriched by Capitalism. May he keep campaigning and force the DNC to again reveal their true character.



posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 05:32 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: pteridine




Militancy and violence toward the citizens is why there is a second amendment. There will be little of that after the first efforts of the Comrades.

Go ahead and shoot them for taking back the means of production from Jeff Bezos.


I thought Jeff was a leftist. Maybe he's not as far left as Bernie. If the Comrades destroy their workplace, then they won't have one to be employed and will just have to wander around, raging. Who will they take out their frustration on then? Will we see Antifa-like attacks on those who just happen along?



posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 05:33 PM
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originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: pexx421
a reply to: pteridine
I don’t know why y’all think Bernie had a choice. He lost, fake or true, and he wasn’t going to be able to do anything about it in that environment, other than try again in a few years, like now.
As to “spending money on a house and car”, well, homes and cars cost money. He’s a middle class American. Either you are being intentionally dishonest, or you really have no clue about his message and platform. I do, so I can tell you that his problem is not with people having a million dollars. His problem isn’t with people buying cars or homes. If you think that’s what his problem is, then go to his site. Listen to his podcast on rogan. Watch a few interviews or talks he gives. Cause otherwise you sound like someone who has never smoked weed, telling other people what it’s like to smoke weed. “You’ll be out there sucking dks and turning tricks for your weed addiction!” That’s how far off you are.


Y'all? I guess if you count my evil doppelganger, you could use that colloquialism. I liked that cute good 'ol boy thing about smoking weed. It's not original but cute, anyway. Are you addicted?

He’s a middle class American worth $2.5 million and that has at least three Dachas. His wife has her own psychological problems. She was apparently not prosecuted for bank fraud after she tanked the college she was president of after lying about loan collaterals. Very socialist of her.
Yep, he's nothing but the common-man, middle-class American Communist who seems to like being enriched by Capitalism. May he keep campaigning and force the DNC to again reveal their true character.


Y’all because you’re not the first person to toss out that particular accusation.
At any rate, yes, he’s worth $2.5 million, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. That doesn’t make him the wealthy elite. He’s among the lowest wealth across our congress and senate, and he’s been doing it for a long long time. His value only went up that high recently, after writing a best seller apparently. I’ve also never seen him criticize or attack Stephen king, Raymond feist or Noam Chomsky. Because people who do good work and make good money are not the group he’s critical of, no matter how much y’all keep trying to pigeonhole him into that role. His targets are oligarchs. You think he’s an oligarch?

I don’t know what a dacha is, I’m guessing it’s something you don’t think middle class people should own.

And his wife has issues. That doesn’t preclude one from having integrity or from running for president.



posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 05:33 PM
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Honestly, the right acts like the world will end if Bernie gets elected.
Queue the Red Dawn theme.
Keep in mind that the house and senate aren't going anywhere, and even a supermajority doesn't guarantee any president's wish list. Even with all the levers of power in Washington, there's still a finite amount of political capital any president gets.

It wouldn't be the end of capitalism, but we could see some reasonable checks on it.
Just like the Nordic countries, the US wouldn't be a socialist democracy, per se, but there could be more of a safety net.
Sometimes capitalism works a little too well; it does tend to create massive disparities.

Why shouldn't we focus on the health and education of our citizens?
Why shouldn't we insist on clean air and water?
Why shouldn't we insist that corporate interests get out of politics?
It's not crazy to oppose the plutocracy.

It's ironic because for all the BS about draining the swamp, you'd think Trump supporters would see the sense in a number of Bernie's proposals. Maybe some do...


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posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 05:42 PM
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Right now we lead the world in CO2 reduction and we are well on the way to renewable energy. No need to bankrupt a nation and send the money to other countries. He's wrong on that and it's just hate and scare tactics like they all use.

No need to bankrupt the country to give us better health care and his plans can't be paid for.

Bottom line, he's just making false promises he knows are impossible to do since there is no way to pay for them. His policies would lead to massive unemployment, but he dances around that.

When you place party and country above individual rights, you remove freedom altogether. He basically wants the US to be Cuba.

I don't think I've ever spoken with a Democrat I know who is for Bernie. He attracts the young and illiterate to the ways of the world crowd. It's the same as walking around saying I'll pay you to vote for me, only he would have no money to pay you with.
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posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 05:53 PM
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No need to bankrupt the country to give us better health care and his plans can't be paid for.


Spend less on the military and... voilà!

Anything goes. I dunno... adapt the whole mechanism of quantitative easing for some more direct measures, there's opportunities everywhere.



posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Gandalf77

Right now we lead the world in CO2 reduction and we are well on the way to renewable energy. No need to bankrupt a nation and send the money to other countries. He's wrong on that and it's just hate and scare tactics like they all use.

No need to bankrupt the country to give us better health care and his plans can't be paid for.

Bottom line, he's just making false promises he knows are impossible to do since there is no way to pay for them. His policies would lead to massive unemployment, but he dances around that.

When you place party and country above individual rights, you remove freedom altogether. He basically wants the US to be Cuba.

I don't think I've ever spoken with a Democrat I know who is for Bernie. He attracts the young and illiterate to the ways of the world crowd. It's the same as walking around saying I'll pay you to vote for me, only he would have no money to pay you with.


I don’t think any of your points can be demonstrated factually. Except for the co2, and the reason for that is we subbed out all our manufacturing (and co2) to China. Which I don’t necessarily consider a good thing.

Our healthcare system is on the brink of collapse, and it’s bankrupting the whole economy. Because of it’s out of control costs it’s pushed American workers out of the competitive world market for manufacturing. It’s an immense drain on the economy, coming in at twice per capita what the next most expensive nation pays, and for far worse statistical results. Why should I have to pay twice as much for far less care just because I live in the us? It’s not reasonable. The best nation in the world should have the best health system in the world for a better price.

You’re assuming we can’t afford it. You’re assuming he’s lying. Or you’re just saying those things because you disagree with him. I think the idea that Bernie is proposing these plans but doesn’t believe in them is idiotic. We can recognize liars. We have one for president. Bernie has never once flipped the script in his life, he’s been saying the same things for 40 years. It’s fatuous to pretend he’s lying.

At any rate, we will have massive unemployment in just 20 years, and I don’t see anyone doing anything about that. Our workforce will shortly collapse, with millions of our main employment fields completely disappearing. I’d like to have some good social safety nets set up for that time.

And I don’t see him placing party and country above individuals rights. That would be everyone who keeps voting to support and extend the patriot act, and the mass surveillance. Strangely that’s the vast majority of representatives OTHER than sanders, Cortez, and the handful of other reps you’ve been told to hate by the very people who keep supporting those programs. Hm.

At any rate, I’m no democrat. And I know the ways of the world just fine. Been around a lot of places, worked a lot of jobs, did my time in the service. I read copious amounts. Not sure what makes you assume your “way of the world” is any more legitimate than mine. Cept it appears to be a common failing on here.



posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 06:16 PM
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Let’s be clear. You need to recognize many of your ideas have been manufactured. “Where will the money come from?!” Plenty places. The military. The subsidies. Closing tax loopholes.

But I want to take a look at the logical dichotomy I think many labor under. We were told we needed to bail out the banks and do qe. What did they do with it? They bought up other failing banks, and washed the junk bonds from their fraud and bad bets, and destroyed the worlds economy in the process. Because they had to have the money. They were too big to fail. Where was “where will we get the money?!” Then?

Because it’s only stupid when it will benefit the people. Why wasn’t that money used to bail out the homeowners instead? It would have had a far greater effect. With the amount we spent we could have bailed out all the homeowners AND paid off everyone’s school debt. Instantly that money would have gone right from those debtors to the banks, so it would have gone where it was supposed to anyway. But it also would have left a massive part of the population with far more money, disposable income, which would have been spent on gidgets and gadgets, things and stuff, not just once but EVERY PAYCHECK, and that would have been a far greater economic stimulus. But then, we would have heard the cries of “how will we pay for it?!”



posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

If you do away with the military and tax the top 5% 100%, it still would not come anywhere near paying for it. He's just being a politician and making false promises.



posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: PublicOpinion

If you do away with the military and tax the top 5% 100%, it still would not come anywhere near paying for it. He's just being a politician and making false promises.


See, I think you’re missing something. I assume you mean healthcare. You are making the assumption, like most do when attacking the plan, that the costs for it are IN ADDITION to what we are already paying. It’s not. We’re already paying for all of it. It’s like you have a home, and it’s too expensive and doesn’t meet your needs, so you want to buy a cheaper, less bloated home, that meets your needs. And your wife keeps saying “how will we pay for it?!”. Easy. It’s cheaper than the home you’re replacing. Do us a favor, before ever saying “how will we pay for it?!” Again. Look up how much we will spend, as a society, on our current health system over the next 20 years, and look up how much we will spend on Bernie system over 20 years. And don’t forget to add in all the uncovered costs, copays, bankruptcies, workplace wage deductions etc that this one is costing us.



posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 06:25 PM
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You are assuming I don't want a clean environment and cheaper healthcare. You are wrong on that one, I do.

No pie in the sky politician making outlandish promises they can't keep will ever solve anything.

Sanders is bad choice. We need people who can compromise and solve those issues, not someone so far Left he tilts when he walks.

I agree about the Patriot Act and I'm very angry at both parties over that one. I'm also opposed to the FISA court.

I'm not a Republican or Democrat and nobody is telling me what to think or want to happen. Nobody.

AOC is an adult with an adolescent mind. She's irrelevant to anything IMO. Were I a Democrat I'd be very embarrassed about her.

I can't stand Trump, but I'm being forced to vote for him since the Dem's have gone full tilt Left and are no longer Liberals.



posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 06:29 PM
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originally posted by: pexx421

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: pexx421

I didn't attack. I asked you an honest question.

If you don't like it here, why not move there where you claim you do like it?

My comment about them not wanting you is because very often, countries with those types of economies are very strict about their legal immigration. If you do not have the skills they need, then they will not let you in because they have to be very careful in the balancing act of their social systems or else they get overloaded.

Perhaps you've tried to emigrate and were not needed there was what I was saying. If you think that's a personal attack, it says more about what you think of yourself than anything I said about you. Whatever skills you have may not be skills they need, and sometimes, those can be very good skills indeed.



You’re full of sht. It was a dick statement meant to be a dick statement, just like your attempted disparaging psychoanalysis of me in this post. Just be honest and engage in honest debate, don’t be a smug dick slinging sideways insults and acting innocent. And when you do, at least own it and don’t play the victim. My prepubescent kid has more balls and honesty.

.....and you seriously can't figure out why people can't have a civil debate with you? People are so sick of the left and the condescending and arrogant tone that people like yourself like to interject into their post. Such as the "Trumpeteer" comment you made in this thread. Typical lefty hypocrisy that's why ya'll are a pathetic joke to so many.

You do all of this unprovoked on this forum. So please spare us your condescending and hypocritical BS, at the least grow a pair and own it.



posted on Jan, 30 2020 @ 06:31 PM
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a reply to: pexx421

No matter what, you pay. Either you pay in taxes and the government gives it back or you pay yourself. The only money government has is what they take from us.

Bernie will have to hit the middle class so hard, they will wish they had their insurance back. 40% of the country pays zero in and only takes. The rich don't have enough money to take even if they take it all. Unemployment would skyrocket.

Bernie can't deliver on his promises. It's not possible.



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