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originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: pexx421
The best way to judge Bernie would be by what he done while in office. Anything? Anything at all?
originally posted by: toolgal462
originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: pexx421
The best way to judge Bernie would be by what he done while in office. Anything? Anything at all?
He has accomplished becoming a millionaire despite never having held a job in the private sector.
And according to the list provided to you by pexx, he also "accomplished" a lot of failed presidential campaigns and voted a few times on bills that passed, despite him voting "no".
He has managed to also provide his wife with a hefty amount of that campaign money he raised (you know, the money he raised without wall street donations) as he made his wife his media consultant and she was paid millions out of the donations he received (not from wall street and giant corporations).
He also accomplished buying a nice lake house after his last failed attempt at running for president in 2016.
Those are some big accomplishments.
originally posted by: Gojira54
originally posted by: toolgal462
originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: pexx421
The best way to judge Bernie would be by what he done while in office. Anything? Anything at all?
He has accomplished becoming a millionaire despite never having held a job in the private sector.
And according to the list provided to you by pexx, he also "accomplished" a lot of failed presidential campaigns and voted a few times on bills that passed, despite him voting "no".
He has managed to also provide his wife with a hefty amount of that campaign money he raised (you know, the money he raised without wall street donations) as he made his wife his media consultant and she was paid millions out of the donations he received (not from wall street and giant corporations).
He also accomplished buying a nice lake house after his last failed attempt at running for president in 2016.
Those are some big accomplishments.
Senator Bernie Sanders has had 3 laws passed (Signed by a President), 340 bills reported to committee, 13 bills reported by committee, 1 only to just pass the House.
Veterans' Compensation Cost of Living Adjustment Act of 2013
A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 35 Park Street in Danville, Vermont, as the "Thaddeus Stevens Post Office" enacted: November, 2014
A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1 Marble Street in Fair Haven, Vermont, as the "Matthew Lyon Post Office Building" enacted: August, 2006
A congressman from 1991-2007. A senator from 2007-today. So he gets a bill passed about once for every 10 years in DC.
And 2 of those bills renamed post offices! That is a MAJOR accomplishment.
originally posted by: Gojira54
a reply to: toolgal462
I give credit where credit is due.
originally posted by: pexx421
So I’m guessing you guys ignored the part of the article where he personally helped people get medications they needed. Or the part where he set up land trusts that helped people get homes they needed. Or the parts where he established and funded nationwide cancer registries. Helping victims of white collar crimes receive restitution. Establishing energy efficiency programs. Banning imports from companies in other countries using child labor. Funding meals for poor. Funding community health centers, aiding struggling farmers. As well as numerous amendments to fund aid to veterans, including a 16 billion investment to reform the va.
originally posted by: pexx421
So I’m guessing you guys ignored the part of the article where he personally helped people get medications they needed. Or the part where he set up land trusts that helped people get homes they needed. Or the parts where he established and funded nationwide cancer registries. Helping victims of white collar crimes receive restitution. Establishing energy efficiency programs. Banning imports from companies in other countries using child labor. Funding meals for poor. Funding community health centers, aiding struggling farmers. As well as numerous amendments to fund aid to veterans, including a 16 billion investment to reform the va.
originally posted by: Gojira54
originally posted by: pexx421
So I’m guessing you guys ignored the part of the article where he personally helped people get medications they needed. Or the part where he set up land trusts that helped people get homes they needed. Or the parts where he established and funded nationwide cancer registries. Helping victims of white collar crimes receive restitution. Establishing energy efficiency programs. Banning imports from companies in other countries using child labor. Funding meals for poor. Funding community health centers, aiding struggling farmers. As well as numerous amendments to fund aid to veterans, including a 16 billion investment to reform the va.
Again... 30 years in DC... 3 bills passed.. 2 of the 3 were to rename post offices.
The guy has accomplished NOTHING as a congressman or senator except for padding his own wallet.
originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: pexx421
I'm not against cutting the military budget in certain areas. But I prefer the United States stay LIGHTYEARS ahead of everyone else, period.
43% is not a relative number. You need to look into this a bit more. It's far more than just numbers on a screen.
originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: pexx421
I'm not against cutting the military budget in certain areas. But I prefer the United States stay LIGHTYEARS ahead of everyone else, period.
43% is not a relative number. You need to look into this a bit more. It's far more than just numbers on a screen.
originally posted by: ketsuko
Metaphorically speaking, no one in Bernie's preferred system can hypothetically say they own the sandwiches because the government owns them for everyone.
But whoever is in control of the government or has power in government has the power over the sandwiches and who gets them and when.
Of course you are correct, such systems seem to always be chronically short of the necessary sandwiches, but I guess the idea is that if no one has enough sandwiches but everyone has sandwiches, then everyone is in paradise. And if you are angry at your lack of sufficient sandwiches, then we have wonderful camp for you to be taught why you are wrong or die learning.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: ketsuko
Metaphorically speaking, no one in Bernie's preferred system can hypothetically say they own the sandwiches because the government owns them for everyone.
But whoever is in control of the government or has power in government has the power over the sandwiches and who gets them and when.
Of course you are correct, such systems seem to always be chronically short of the necessary sandwiches, but I guess the idea is that if no one has enough sandwiches but everyone has sandwiches, then everyone is in paradise. And if you are angry at your lack of sufficient sandwiches, then we have wonderful camp for you to be taught why you are wrong or die learning.
You had me at sandwiches
It's like Government cheese...kind of looks like cheese, its called cheese, but tastes and smells like hell, but hey it is cheese because the Government says it is. Just remember a Sh!t sandwich is a sandwich....
Cheese and sandwiches for ALL!
originally posted by: pexx421
originally posted by: Gojira54
originally posted by: pexx421
So I’m guessing you guys ignored the part of the article where he personally helped people get medications they needed. Or the part where he set up land trusts that helped people get homes they needed. Or the parts where he established and funded nationwide cancer registries. Helping victims of white collar crimes receive restitution. Establishing energy efficiency programs. Banning imports from companies in other countries using child labor. Funding meals for poor. Funding community health centers, aiding struggling farmers. As well as numerous amendments to fund aid to veterans, including a 16 billion investment to reform the va.
Again... 30 years in DC... 3 bills passed.. 2 of the 3 were to rename post offices.
The guy has accomplished NOTHING as a congressman or senator except for padding his own wallet.
So how many bills do most people get passed? Hell, I’m happy if a rep just does no harm. Some of our most “successful “ congress members have passed numerous bills that are extremely detrimental to us all. Billy tauzin single handedly exploded medical costs for all of us. Joe Biden removed our bankruptcy protections.
Sanders has apparently created numerous amendments, more than anyone else apparently, which have contributed in many ways to improve millions of people’s lives, apparently. And he’s been on the right side of every vote where everyone else was wrong. Our wars, the patriot act, things like that.
And don’t we know someone else who has never had a job? Oh, yeah, y’all favorite president!