Sander's Field Organizers Talk About Militancy And Violence Towards Property

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originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: pexx421

The best way to judge Bernie would be by what he done while in office. Anything? Anything at all?

He has accomplished becoming a millionaire despite never having held a job in the private sector.

And according to the list provided to you by pexx, he also "accomplished" a lot of failed presidential campaigns and voted a few times on bills that passed, despite him voting "no".

He has managed to also provide his wife with a hefty amount of that campaign money he raised (you know, the money he raised without wall street donations) as he made his wife his media consultant and she was paid millions out of the donations he received (not from wall street and giant corporations).

He also accomplished buying a nice lake house after his last failed attempt at running for president in 2016.

Those are some big accomplishments.

originally posted by: toolgal462

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: pexx421

The best way to judge Bernie would be by what he done while in office. Anything? Anything at all?

He has accomplished becoming a millionaire despite never having held a job in the private sector.

And according to the list provided to you by pexx, he also "accomplished" a lot of failed presidential campaigns and voted a few times on bills that passed, despite him voting "no".

He has managed to also provide his wife with a hefty amount of that campaign money he raised (you know, the money he raised without wall street donations) as he made his wife his media consultant and she was paid millions out of the donations he received (not from wall street and giant corporations).

He also accomplished buying a nice lake house after his last failed attempt at running for president in 2016.

Those are some big accomplishments.

Senator Bernie Sanders has had 3 laws passed (Signed by a President), 340 bills reported to committee, 13 bills reported by committee, 1 only to just pass the House.

-Veterans' Compensation Cost of Living Adjustment Act of 2013
-A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 35 Park Street in Danville, Vermont, as the "Thaddeus Stevens Post Office" enacted: November, 2014
-A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1 Marble Street in Fair Haven, Vermont, as the "Matthew Lyon Post Office Building" enacted: August, 2006

A congressman from 1991-2007. A senator from 2007-today. So he gets a bill passed about once for every 10 years in DC.

And 2 of those bills renamed post offices! That is a MAJOR accomplishment.

a reply to: pexx421

Actually I was fishing for the Bills he authored himself and pushed through. I found a list but they all seem to be Bills where he simply endorsed them and did not author them and others with more clout pushed them through.

His claim to fame seems to be making promises he knows he can't keep.

People also need to factor in he's 78 and has had a heart attack.

I can't imagine voting for him to be honest. He's so far Left, he can't be good for our future. He attracts loony toons like moths to a flame.

originally posted by: Gojira54

originally posted by: toolgal462

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: pexx421

The best way to judge Bernie would be by what he done while in office. Anything? Anything at all?

He has accomplished becoming a millionaire despite never having held a job in the private sector.

And according to the list provided to you by pexx, he also "accomplished" a lot of failed presidential campaigns and voted a few times on bills that passed, despite him voting "no".

He has managed to also provide his wife with a hefty amount of that campaign money he raised (you know, the money he raised without wall street donations) as he made his wife his media consultant and she was paid millions out of the donations he received (not from wall street and giant corporations).

He also accomplished buying a nice lake house after his last failed attempt at running for president in 2016.

Those are some big accomplishments.

Senator Bernie Sanders has had 3 laws passed (Signed by a President), 340 bills reported to committee, 13 bills reported by committee, 1 only to just pass the House.

Veterans' Compensation Cost of Living Adjustment Act of 2013
A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 35 Park Street in Danville, Vermont, as the "Thaddeus Stevens Post Office" enacted: November, 2014
A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1 Marble Street in Fair Haven, Vermont, as the "Matthew Lyon Post Office Building" enacted: August, 2006

A congressman from 1991-2007. A senator from 2007-today. So he gets a bill passed about once for every 10 years in DC.

And 2 of those bills renamed post offices! That is a MAJOR accomplishment.

Wow, what an impressive list! Thanks for adding to it...

I will give the guy credit for the Veterans' Compensation Cost of Living Adjustment Act of 2013.

If it helps veterans, I am all for it. I don't care who wrote the bill or what party they are in.

So... in 30 years in DC, Bernie did ONE good thing!

a reply to: Gojira54

That's what I was looking for.

a reply to: toolgal462

I give credit where credit is due.

originally posted by: Gojira54
a reply to: toolgal462

I give credit where credit is due.

As you should!

So I’m guessing you guys ignored the part of the article where he personally helped people get medications they needed. Or the part where he set up land trusts that helped people get homes they needed. Or the parts where he established and funded nationwide cancer registries. Helping victims of white collar crimes receive restitution. Establishing energy efficiency programs. Banning imports from companies in other countries using child labor. Funding meals for poor. Funding community health centers, aiding struggling farmers. As well as numerous amendments to fund aid to veterans, including a 16 billion investment to reform the va.

originally posted by: pexx421
So I’m guessing you guys ignored the part of the article where he personally helped people get medications they needed. Or the part where he set up land trusts that helped people get homes they needed. Or the parts where he established and funded nationwide cancer registries. Helping victims of white collar crimes receive restitution. Establishing energy efficiency programs. Banning imports from companies in other countries using child labor. Funding meals for poor. Funding community health centers, aiding struggling farmers. As well as numerous amendments to fund aid to veterans, including a 16 billion investment to reform the va.

We don't want no commie, socialist scumbucket who helps people in need, screw those people they should have tried harder instead of needing old bern to help em out.

originally posted by: pexx421
So I’m guessing you guys ignored the part of the article where he personally helped people get medications they needed. Or the part where he set up land trusts that helped people get homes they needed. Or the parts where he established and funded nationwide cancer registries. Helping victims of white collar crimes receive restitution. Establishing energy efficiency programs. Banning imports from companies in other countries using child labor. Funding meals for poor. Funding community health centers, aiding struggling farmers. As well as numerous amendments to fund aid to veterans, including a 16 billion investment to reform the va.

Again... 30 years in DC... 3 bills passed.. 2 of the 3 were to rename post offices.

The guy has accomplished NOTHING as a congressman or senator except for padding his own wallet.

originally posted by: Gojira54

originally posted by: pexx421
So I’m guessing you guys ignored the part of the article where he personally helped people get medications they needed. Or the part where he set up land trusts that helped people get homes they needed. Or the parts where he established and funded nationwide cancer registries. Helping victims of white collar crimes receive restitution. Establishing energy efficiency programs. Banning imports from companies in other countries using child labor. Funding meals for poor. Funding community health centers, aiding struggling farmers. As well as numerous amendments to fund aid to veterans, including a 16 billion investment to reform the va.

Again... 30 years in DC... 3 bills passed.. 2 of the 3 were to rename post offices.

The guy has accomplished NOTHING as a congressman or senator except for padding his own wallet.

So how many bills do most people get passed? Hell, I’m happy if a rep just does no harm. Some of our most “successful “ congress members have passed numerous bills that are extremely detrimental to us all. Billy tauzin single handedly exploded medical costs for all of us. Joe Biden removed our bankruptcy protections.

Sanders has apparently created numerous amendments, more than anyone else apparently, which have contributed in many ways to improve millions of people’s lives, apparently. And he’s been on the right side of every vote where everyone else was wrong. Our wars, the patriot act, things like that.

And don’t we know someone else who has never had a job? Oh, yeah, y’all favorite president!

a reply to: pexx421

I'm not against cutting the military budget in certain areas. But I prefer the United States stay LIGHTYEARS ahead of everyone else, period.

43% is not a relative number. You need to look into this a bit more. It's far more than just numbers on a screen.

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: pexx421

I'm not against cutting the military budget in certain areas. But I prefer the United States stay LIGHTYEARS ahead of everyone else, period.

43% is not a relative number. You need to look into this a bit more. It's far more than just numbers on a screen.

We are not detailing finalized plans and reports here. You’re fixating too much, and ignoring the main point. We can get by just fine on a much more streamlined, efficient military. China and Russia have far smaller budgets but seem to be able to do just fine at coming up with tech that’s not rendered obsolete by ours. They seem to be handling the expenditures much better than we are. We can shrink the budget considerably, and still stay ahead of the game. Hell, if we just stopped our adventurism and wars for profit, the money we save on paying for veterans injuries and disabilities alone would be a nice chunk. The point is, we don’t have a huge, powerful nemesis like the USSR to fight, the budget should have reflected this 30 years ago. Instead there’s trillions that have been wasted that could have made life in America much better for millions of people. Every bit that we spend on the military is money taken away from other programs and needs. The rest of the country is falling apart. We can’t afford it anymore.

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: pexx421

I'm not against cutting the military budget in certain areas. But I prefer the United States stay LIGHTYEARS ahead of everyone else, period.

43% is not a relative number. You need to look into this a bit more. It's far more than just numbers on a screen.

Let’s phrase this another way. We are not at risk of being invaded. At all. We are very much at risk of societal unrest and collapse due to collapsing infrastructure, social division, fiscal insecurity and social conflict created by perceived inequality and lack of real opportunity. These are things that could have been addressed, but were neglected in order to fund our empire games.

originally posted by: ketsuko



Metaphorically speaking, no one in Bernie's preferred system can hypothetically say they own the sandwiches because the government owns them for everyone.

But whoever is in control of the government or has power in government has the power over the sandwiches and who gets them and when.

Of course you are correct, such systems seem to always be chronically short of the necessary sandwiches, but I guess the idea is that if no one has enough sandwiches but everyone has sandwiches, then everyone is in paradise. And if you are angry at your lack of sufficient sandwiches, then we have wonderful camp for you to be taught why you are wrong or die learning.

You had me at sandwiches

It's like Government cheese...kind of looks like cheese, its called cheese, but tastes and smells like hell, but hey it is cheese because the Government says it is. Just remember a Sh!t sandwich is a sandwich....

Cheese and sandwiches for ALL!

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: ketsuko



Metaphorically speaking, no one in Bernie's preferred system can hypothetically say they own the sandwiches because the government owns them for everyone.

But whoever is in control of the government or has power in government has the power over the sandwiches and who gets them and when.

Of course you are correct, such systems seem to always be chronically short of the necessary sandwiches, but I guess the idea is that if no one has enough sandwiches but everyone has sandwiches, then everyone is in paradise. And if you are angry at your lack of sufficient sandwiches, then we have wonderful camp for you to be taught why you are wrong or die learning.

You had me at sandwiches

It's like Government cheese...kind of looks like cheese, its called cheese, but tastes and smells like hell, but hey it is cheese because the Government says it is. Just remember a Sh!t sandwich is a sandwich....

Cheese and sandwiches for ALL!

I mean, that’s kind of America in general, not just the government. Sure, govt cheese is a disgusting, artificial mess. But is velveta any better? In fact, all American cheese is processed, pasteurized cheese food. It’s a fake, toxic imitation of European cheese, completely lacking in substance or culture. Even our bread is over processed and under nutritious. We can’t really claim hot dogs or hamburgers.... or pizza. Guess the point is, govt doesn’t have the monopoly on fake, culture less cheese.

a reply to: pexx421

It doesn't but I have the freedom to seek out the good stuff - real cheese, local butchers, artisan bread, etc. Give it all to the government and all anyone gets is fake, processed crap.

originally posted by: pexx421

originally posted by: Gojira54

originally posted by: pexx421
So I’m guessing you guys ignored the part of the article where he personally helped people get medications they needed. Or the part where he set up land trusts that helped people get homes they needed. Or the parts where he established and funded nationwide cancer registries. Helping victims of white collar crimes receive restitution. Establishing energy efficiency programs. Banning imports from companies in other countries using child labor. Funding meals for poor. Funding community health centers, aiding struggling farmers. As well as numerous amendments to fund aid to veterans, including a 16 billion investment to reform the va.

Again... 30 years in DC... 3 bills passed.. 2 of the 3 were to rename post offices.

The guy has accomplished NOTHING as a congressman or senator except for padding his own wallet.

So how many bills do most people get passed? Hell, I’m happy if a rep just does no harm. Some of our most “successful “ congress members have passed numerous bills that are extremely detrimental to us all. Billy tauzin single handedly exploded medical costs for all of us. Joe Biden removed our bankruptcy protections.

Sanders has apparently created numerous amendments, more than anyone else apparently, which have contributed in many ways to improve millions of people’s lives, apparently. And he’s been on the right side of every vote where everyone else was wrong. Our wars, the patriot act, things like that.

And don’t we know someone else who has never had a job? Oh, yeah, y’all favorite president!

Sorry, but if you think Trump never had a job, you're too deluded to take seriously.