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My new idea on Shanksville

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posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 01:56 AM
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We ALL have questions as to where the bodies and parts and aircraft parts in Shanksville PA is.


what if the what really happened that day is at the same time the aircraft that would eventually be over shanksville a military fighter or fighters fired off a long range cruise weapons(there are a few you could pick from, and god knows what we dont know they have) that would trade places with the aircraft via a shutdown or some other subterfuge.

We KNOW there were a TON of US aircraft in the air that day, how hard would it be to load a few with some cruise missiles and maybe a few Air 2 air missiles, heck if Dick Chaney or who ever at that level is controlling things that nothing as far as the military is off the table except the most extreme.

maybe what got shot down was the long range cruise missiles by some of the vert people 'in' on it or maybe the ones who shot them had a crisis of conscience, and the shanksville scene is downed weapons and god only knows what happened to the real air craft

someone stopped something in the air of shanksville, the question who really pulled the trigger. i vote a usaf fighter that fr whatever was armed with real ordinance or even some good ol large caliber rounds


it would explane the ground and what the people said they saw as far as what came out of the sky and the lack of wreckage




posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 02:00 AM
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a reply to: penroc3

What lack of wreckage? Almost the entire aircraft was recovered and sent to Iron Mountain for storage.



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 02:17 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

but if you in a conspiracy this monolithic than you could bury that before hand, remember the people that found the same damage a year before 9/11 on google earth



you really dont think that was shot down? there was a large light field of debris , the aircraft that was)



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 02:26 AM
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a reply to: penroc3

No, the large debris field was light objects, such as seat cushions and paper. There weren't any aircraft pieces that were scattered over a large area.



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 03:33 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: penroc3

No, the large debris field was light objects, such as seat cushions and paper. There weren't any aircraft pieces that were scattered over a large area.


I thought the only thing left of Flight 93 was a big hole in the ground. Almost no wreckage to speak of.

Am I not remembering correctly?



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 03:38 AM
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My father was there for his job. One day I was digging around in his computer and found a journal thing he wrote about finding a woman's hand on the ground from the crash.



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 03:54 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: penroc3

No, the large debris field was light objects, such as seat cushions and paper. There weren't any aircraft pieces that were scattered over a large area.


I just found this image online. I don't remember there being an identifiable tail section though.

Does anyone else remember what the Flight 93 crash site looked like at the time?





edit on 1/27/2020 by Riffrafter because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 05:19 AM
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originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: penroc3

No, the large debris field was light objects, such as seat cushions and paper. There weren't any aircraft pieces that were scattered over a large area.


I just found this image online. I don't remember there being an identifiable tail section though.

Does anyone else remember what the Flight 93 crash site looked like at the time?






That isn’t it. The hole in the ground was deeper, scattered light debris. As if the plane had it the ground in a literally vertical orientation and more or less vanished. A bit like the Pentagon plane that more or less vanished. Still find it odd that there was CCTV of that event from multiple sources and just one of those released would halt much of the conspiracy talk. Yet nothing but the utterly inconclusive car park camera view has ever been seen by the public.



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 06:40 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: penroc3

No, the large debris field was light objects, such as seat cushions and paper. There weren't any aircraft pieces that were scattered over a large area.
wasn't there an engine a few miles away?



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 07:51 AM
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a reply to: network dude

there were items from passengers and the aircraft that were spread out for miles. kinda like it was # down at speed and altitude



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 08:20 AM
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originally posted by: ARM1968

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: penroc3

No, the large debris field was light objects, such as seat cushions and paper. There weren't any aircraft pieces that were scattered over a large area.


I just found this image online. I don't remember there being an identifiable tail section though.

Does anyone else remember what the Flight 93 crash site looked like at the time?






Still find it odd that there was CCTV of that event from multiple sources


I find it odd that people insist that things exist when they have no idea if they exist



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 08:46 AM
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a reply to: mrthumpy
I remember looking into all this at the time, and I still have pictures of the pentagon less than an hour after it was hit, showing multiple CCTV cameras still standing. Yet, never hearing an explanation for where their footage went.

I'm not saying it's all a cover up, just that some valid questions exist, that have yet to be answered.



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 08:55 AM
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Yep, I'm a pilot.........I call foul on the whole day.....and neutronflush agrees with me.....wait, I have to plug the prominent poster on 911 here at ATS in.....

So, to answer the 911 problems ....SOMEONE INVENTED a person here on ats....I call him neutronflush......

Did you see the smoke plume from this Shanksville......!?

That's why I said I'm a pilot......I was in the Air Force during the big one....the smoke was not unlike a barbeque getting going....in your backyard.

Shanksville had a lady really close claims a small little drone went over her car.....

Pilots say no to 911..

Just say noa reply to: mrthumpy


edit on 27-1-2020 by GBP/JPY because: IN THE FINE TEXAS TRADITION



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 08:58 AM
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Thats the tail from a BEECH HAWKER.........900


originally posted by: ARM1968

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: penroc3

No, the large debris field was light objects, such as seat cushions and paper. There weren't any aircraft pieces that were scattered over a large area.


I just found this image online. I don't remember there being an identifiable tail section though.

Does anyone else remember what the Flight 93 crash site looked like at the time?






That isn’t it. The hole in the ground was deeper, scattered light debris. As if the plane had it the ground in a literally vertical orientation and more or less vanished. A bit like the Pentagon plane that more or less vanished. Still find it odd that there was CCTV of that event from multiple sources and just one of those released would halt much of the conspiracy talk. Yet nothing but the utterly inconclusive car park camera view has ever been seen by the public.


If we all waited to continue this thread till neutronflush gets here.....that would show how contrived the situation is....Langley has to find his power cord to plug him in....like HAL 9000....911...a special problem for the powers in high places...huh! Lets see if neutronflush shows....he only replies to 911 threads.....tell me....!
edit on 27-1-2020 by GBP/JPY because: IN THE FINE TEXAS TRADITION

edit on 27-1-2020 by GBP/JPY because: IN THE FINE TEXAS TRADITION



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: Riffrafter

There wasn't much on the surface, but when they dug down they found almost all of the aircraft.



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 09:13 AM
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a reply to: network dude

No. There was part of an engine found in a catchment basin, but it was a few hundred yards away, in the direction the aircraft was traveling.



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: mrthumpy
I remember looking into all this at the time, and I still have pictures of the pentagon less than an hour after it was hit, showing multiple CCTV cameras still standing. Yet, never hearing an explanation for where their footage went.

I'm not saying it's all a cover up, just that some valid questions exist, that have yet to be answered.


Would you have expected any of them to capture anything of note?



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 09:52 AM
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posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: DerBeobachter

And he was right, there were no intact bodies found at the crash site. There rarely are.


The 44 people aboard were, for the most part, obliterated.

Small bits of their bodies were caught in trees, and more were found to have been driven through the windows of a cabin some 800 feet away, Somerset County coroner Wallace E. Miller told those attending the sixth annual forensic symposium, held Saturday at the Simon Kramer Institute, New Philadelphia.



Identifying the bodies was extraordinarily difficult; most had been vaporized by the impact and intense heat. Identifiable pieces were blown over acres.

Penn State arborists climbed the tall trees to recover remains.



He said his teams managed to recover only 8 percent of the bodies, none intact.

Miller sent one casket home to a victim's family holding only a quarter-sized piece of skull.

www.tnonline.com...



posted on Jan, 27 2020 @ 10:21 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

hitting the ground at what im sure was close to supersonic speed would do quite a 'blender' to the aircraft and everything in it.

my OP was one of early morning fantasy


i think the aircraft was brought down but by what is the real question



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