Corona Virus Updates

The Tweet doesn’t translate well so I’ll give a summary below.

Twitter

The director of the Wuhan disease lab competed with 3 others for the job. He got the job despite having submitted only 2 research papers. The rest is calling into question his ability to manage the facility.

This is the norm in China for anything govt related, the nepotism is very real. No way to confirm this tweet but I’ll ask wife to dig around undo while I’m at work.

a reply to: redpassion

Supply and demand.

If this particular drug suddenly becomes a common one for the treatment of this disease, it will initially become expensive through lack of supply, but as production ramps up, there will be so many customers that each dose won't have to cost as much as it does when it's solely for AIDS treatment.

Really, the AIDS population is far more limited than the pool of patients for this.

It's limited need that causes such high prices on many drugs. Between the limited times on a patent and the limited pool of patients who need any one drug, that's where the high costs normally come from as companies attempt to recoup costs of R&D and turn a profit.

originally posted by: SpartanStoic
a reply to: musicismagic

A few reasons;

Censorship
Password retrieval and authentication
Face scan

In China these days, it’s very much your phone is your life,

Thanks so I really shouldnt have a twitter account then?

Just got this from the US Embassy.

Health and Travel Alert – U.S. Embassy Tokyo, Japan (February 3, 2020)



Location: Tokyo, Japan

Event: Coronavirus Outbreak -- Travel Restrictions, Safety Measures



The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is closely monitoring the novel coronavirus that was first detected in Wuhan, China and subsequently declared a Public Health Emergency of International Concern by the World Health Organization (WHO).

For current information and guidance regarding this disease outbreak, U.S. citizens in Japan are advised to consult the WHO and CDC websites.



U.S. Travel Restrictions and Presidential Proclamation

The U.S. Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services has declared that the coronavirus presents a Public Health Emergency in the United States. In accordance with the declaration, beginning 5 p.m. EST, February 2, 2020, the U.S. government started implementing temporary measures to increase its abilities to detect and contain the coronavirus proactively and aggressively. These measures include:

• All flights with travelers who have been in mainland China within the last 14 days will arrive at a select number of designated ports of entry.

• Any U.S. citizen returning to the U.S. who has been in Hubei province in the previous 14 days will be subject to up to 14 days of mandatory quarantine, to ensure they’re provided proper medical care and health screening.

• Any U.S. citizen returning to the U.S. who has been in the rest of mainland China within the previous 14 days will undergo proactive entry health screening and self-quarantine to ensure they do not post a public health risk.

• Additionally, the President has signed a Presidential Proclamation using his authority pursuant to Section 212 (f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act suspending the entry into the United States of foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the 2019 novel coronavirus.

• As a result, foreign nationals, other than immediate family of U.S. citizens and permanent residents, who have traveled in China within the last 14 days will be denied entry into the United States.

For additional information, please see the Presidential Proclamation.





Level 4 Travel Advisory for China – Do Not Travel

The United States advises U.S. citizens not to travel to China. If you do travel to China, you will be subject to additional screening and public health measures upon return the United States. The U.S. Department of State will continue to closely monitor the situation in China and will revise our travel advisory as conditions warrant. For additional information, refer to travel.state.gov.



Japanese Government Actions, Cabinet Order, Entry Restrictions

A Government of Japan (GOJ) Cabinet Order designating the novel coronavirus as a Designated Infectious Disease took effect February 1. The law allows local authorities to compulsorily test and quarantine individuals. Under the Order, Japan will impose an entry ban on people infected with the novel coronavirus. The Immigration Services Agency of Japan announced that effective February 1, 2020, foreigners who have travelled to Hubei Province in China within 14 days before arriving in Japan, and foreigners who have a Chinese passport issued by Hubei Province are not permitted to enter Japan. Residents who develop symptoms in Japan are advised to wear a mask and contact a medical institution as soon as possible, and to declare if they have stayed in Wuhan. The Japan National Tourism Organization offers a 24/7 multi-lingual (English, Chinese, Korean) call service that can provide coronavirus-related information and assist in case of emergencies (accident or sickness) at 050-3816-2787.

Other countries are also imposing travel restrictions to prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus. The U.S. Embassy advises checking with destination government officials in advance of commencing travel, particularly if you have recently been in China.



Actions to Take:

· Consult the CDC website, for the most up-to-date health information.

· Check with the airlines regarding any flight cancellations and/or restrictions on flying. Be aware that airline schedules are changing rapidly.

· • Wash your hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds. Use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer if soap and water are not available.

· • Avoid touching your eyes, nose, or mouth with unwashed hands.

· • Avoid close contact with people who are sick.

· • Cover your mouth and nose with a tissue or your sleeve (not your hands) when coughing or sneezing.

· • Seek medical care right away if you feel sick or were exposed to someone who has a fever, cough, or difficulty breathing

originally posted by: loam
A week from now, I predict we won't like what we see.

Isn't that what you were saying last week?

Hello all

I just found this on Sky News. It would appear that someone on the 2nd UK repatriation flight from Wuhan fell ill and has been taken to hospital.

SKY NEWS

Rev

originally posted by: revmoofoo
Hello all

I just found this on Sky News. It would appear that someone on the 2nd UK repatriation flight from Wuhan fell ill and has been taken to hospital.

SKY NEWS

Rev

Man, that's heavy stuff going on in the UK.

originally posted by: sapien82
# I forgot and just ordered something from amazon coming from shanghai.

It doesnt appear to be in the quarantine zones

it should be ok eh

Im going to have to blast the box with chlorine or something

With all the lockdown of cities and no one going to work until mid February, will anyone be at work over there to fulfill your order anyway?

Hey, China says we are overreacting - it's all good, whew!

originally posted by: fleabit
Hey, China says we are overreacting - it's all good, whew!

Translation --

No! You take our plague victim. You take our plague victim and you die!

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Big surprise.

Have you ever heard a "psychic" predict a bunch of positive stuff is coming soon?

originally posted by: fleabit
Hey, China says we are overreacting - it's all good, whew!

In Hong Kong, the bars and dining joints are jam packed. No worry there.

17489 Cases
362 Dead
530 Confirmed recoveries

That's just about 2% mortality rate

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Power_Semi

You're looking at past performance as an indicator of future results and that simply isn't how it works. I'm not looking at anything in china other than how they botched this and how other countries are not. I don't think china botched it on purpose but the rest of us have seen what happened in china and are taking steps to avoid that happening here. That's the whole point. We know more of what we're dealing with than what china did, that's not an assumption, it's a fact.

China was unlucky enough to be the guinea pig while we all watched. For sure there will be more cases, but the measures taken to keep it from spreading outside of china will be more drastic because of what we've seen in china. This isn't a prediction, it's a fact. We have already taken more drastic steps to contain it at lower levels of infected cases than china did.

We've cut off all flights from the affected area. We are quarantining anyone who flies in and shows flu symptoms. We have 11 confirmed cases, all in quarantine. It's not a numbers game, one doesn't beget two, two doesn't beget four, at least not if we take steps to ensure it does not. Which is what we are doing.

Then there are the treatment methods. Seems a couple of places have had success with anti-virals and HIV med cocktails. Better treatment means less time ill and less time contagious which results in less spreading.

I'm not sure why you think I'm being overoptimistic. I'm just surveying the field. It's going to spread to more people. But we are better equipped to deal with it and have a better understanding of what measures need to be taken when it does.

On Jan 19, china had 280 cases. Two days later they were over 500. Two days ago there were 157 cases outside china, today there are 183. We are doing a much better job because of the knowledge gained from china.

No I'm looking at current performance as a likely indicator of current performance.

It's you who has decided that in China it's the past, and everywhere else is the future.

And that somehow, magically, in the middle we've solved the problem so it isn't an issue any more.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

That's is crazy with the infection rate of that virus ! even with the official numbers from China ! this beat all the lastest flu virus that got that medias scare.

Update:

Maybe in Chinese,Japanese or English, not sure what will show in your computer.

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a reply to: new_here

I dont think shanghai is affected

Who knows , it will probably take an extra month

hopefully the stuff is sitting in a chinese owned warehouse in Europe and isnt coming from shanghai

a reply to: beyondknowledge

Interesting proposition whatever it is Id say this is some social experiment gone very,very wrong

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
17489 Cases
362 Dead
530 Confirmed recoveries

That's just about 2% mortality rate

NO IT ISNT - if you're going to comment you can at least TRY to educate yourself.

The mortality rate can't be calculated until ALL cases are resolved, there's a delay between getting it, testing positive, and then the outcome.

From the first 100 patients (so the ones nearest to resolution) 31 were released from hospital, 11 were dead, and 58 still ill.

If the 58 follow the same pttern as the first 42, then you're looking at a mortality rate of c.25%.

a reply to: Power_Semi

Well said.

Also would caution any latecomers that numbers from China not correct. They’ve said outright they can only test 300 kits per day per city if they are even doing that many. And that’s only what they’ve admitted.