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US Infrastructure's Report Card - "D"

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posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 01:28 PM
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WASHINGTON - Crowded schools, traffic-choked roads and transit cutbacks are eroding the quality of American life, according to an analysis by civil engineers that gave the nation’s infrastructure an overall grade of D.
www.msnbc.msn.com...


What will it take to fix all of this? How about $1.6 trillion spent over the next 5 years according to a report by the American Society of Civil Engineers released Wednesday. Unfortunately I'm afraid that all that money is being used up to rebuild a few other countries (or tear them down). I wish that for once this country would stop and see that things here in the States are not as Solid Gold as they seem to be, and will only get worse unless we focus an unprecedented amount of energy into fixing the problems.




posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 01:39 PM
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Exactly we spend all this money we need to keep here in the US. Reinvest in ourselves our future the future of our children instead of trying to govern other countries all over the world effectively destroying the future of both our nation and theirs.

Phae



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 01:45 PM
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We are now starting to see what the last 4 years of budget cuts and outrageous defend spending is doing to our nation.

Littler by littler we are going to see more and more of the damage to our inner cities and our states.

And the deficit keeps growing, like a monster that needs to be fed without stopping.

See it's starts on the top and it takes a while to hit the states so finally is catching up.

Very soon the states will have to hit the residents to tried to come out with what is needed to run the local governments with smaller budgets.

Very well said Phaethor.



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 01:53 PM
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there's a county in NY that is having 100% of their property tax revenue going to medicaid, and well, then they still owe over a million. They've laid off a whole mess of people, and they've closed down their parks.
gee, how much money do you think they have to fix up the county roads? Every county in the state is cutting back hard, just to meet their obligation to medicaid....
well, it's been an ongoing problem for at least the past three years, everytime, they say next year will be worse.....
but, they have done next to nothing to fix the problem...so.....ya, our roads are a mess, they don't plow them nearly as often as they should when the big storms come (thank god for light winters!!)...and continue on their merry way, both the state and the federal government....finding new and improved ways to waste our tax dollar!! Why change the medicaid scam, hey, that's the perfect waste of tax dollar now, as it is!!!

Can you imagine some of these guys coming home from a long tour of Iraq, and well, demonstrators are penned like animals, and all the other crap that has gone down in the last year or so....democracy......ya, sure!!!



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 02:23 PM
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...a report by the American Society of Civil Engineers...


Classic - spook people to get you and your professional brethren more work....



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 02:39 PM
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Uhh North America's infrastructure is old and decaying. I would say they are lowballing the estimate IMO. Remember the Northeastern Blackout?



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by UofCinLA


...a report by the American Society of Civil Engineers...


Classic - spook people to get you and your professional brethren more work....


I'm guessing that you are implying that the American Society of Civil Engineers just made up the report and it's serious state??? All you have to do is look around a bit to see that this is not some ploy to get engineers more work.



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by UofCinLA


...a report by the American Society of Civil Engineers...


Classic - spook people to get you and your professional brethren more work....


EXACTLY!

Everyone does this, from the military to the medical proffession. If everything is fine, they get no money - its as simple as that.



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 03:22 PM
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Jeez how short peoples memories are these days...

www.answers.com...



NOAA satellite image of northeastern US
and Canada taken before blackout on
Aug. 13, 2003, at 9:21 p.m. EDT.


Satellite image during blackout taken on
Aug. 14, 2003, at 9:03 p.m. EDT.

That should never have happened if our power infrastructure was as people say "Up to snuff". It isn't. Same goes for alot of different things as well...



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 03:34 PM
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I think some people here must live in that Walgreens comercial location 'Perfect'.

In 'Perfect' theres enough funding to allow every school child to have a Grade 'A' Education.

In 'Perfect' bottled water sales are the lowest in the nation due to tap water that is crystal clear and pure.

In 'Perfect' roads and bridges are always kept to the highest standards, with no potholes or erosion.

In 'Perfect' no housing projects are built ontop of hidden Hazardous waste dump sites, and the total number of children cases of leukemia due to the hazardous waste is zero.

In 'Perfect' National and State parks are kept maintained and allow the public full access to cultural, historic and natural resources.

In 'Perfect' Transit and public transportation is affordable, clean, safe and reliable.

I don't live In 'Perfect'.

Phae


[edit on 3/9/2005 by Phaethor]



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 03:38 PM
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A black out of similar magnitude hit the socialist workers' paradise of Europe about the same time.

cnnstudentnews.cnn.com...



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77
A black out of similar magnitude hit the socialist workers' paradise of Europe about the same time.

cnnstudentnews.cnn.com...


So what.. I dont know what you're trying to get at... I would say europes infrastructure isn't much better, but I havn't been there in a long time. How was that around the same time, they were separated by a month. One happened in August the other in September. You saying it is somthing else that caused it or are you just trying to deflect attention to the degrading infrastruction of NORTH america. Canada has alot of the same problems and if you remember we got hit too....



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 03:47 PM
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Yeah well some people discussing this (not you sardion) seem to be trying to make this a U.S. problem only and blaming it on George Bush. I just wanted to point out the problem is not confined to the U.S. or the Bush administration.

[edit on 3/9/2005 by djohnsto77]



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77
Yeah well some people discussing this (not you sardion) seem to be trying to make this a U.S. problem only and blaming it on George Bush. I just wanted to point out the problem is not confined to the U.S. or the Bush administration.

[edit on 3/9/2005 by djohnsto77]


Ahh okay. Understood then heh. What do you think may "cure" some of the problems that ails us collectively in western society?



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by sardion2000
Uhh North America's infrastructure is old and decaying. I would say they are lowballing the estimate IMO. Remember the Northeastern Blackout?


I would say that the blackout was caused by a computer virus. Remember that the same thing happened in italy and the UK I believe. A single felled tree in the US and in Italy supposedly caused both major blackouts within months of each other. Do you think the Government is going to say that a computer virus brang down its electric grid?

Italy recovering from big blackout

Blaster blackout?



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by cryptorsa1001

Originally posted by sardion2000
Uhh North America's infrastructure is old and decaying. I would say they are lowballing the estimate IMO. Remember the Northeastern Blackout?


I would say that the blackout was caused by a computer virus. Remember that the same thing happened in italy and the UK I believe. A single felled tree in the US and in Italy supposedly caused both major blackouts within months of each other. Do you think the Government is going to say that a computer virus brang down its electric grid?

Italy recovering from big blackout

Blaster blackout?


If that is true then the state of our infrastructure may be worse then thought. I guess you're right, if it was this bad they wouldn't tell us to avoid a panic. Still it highlights the need to upgrade...



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 05:50 PM
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Hmm...and just who benefits if the gov't spends the kind of money being proposed? Why, could it be these same civil engineers?



As always, consider the source when studies are published.



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by vor78
Hmm...and just who benefits if the gov't spends the kind of money being proposed? Why, could it be these same civil engineers?



As always, consider the source when studies are published.


Ah so we should just stick our heads in the sand and ignore this latest warning(it has not been the first you know..)?
[sarcasm]I mean Engineers are so hard done by they so desperately need the work.[/sarcasm]

Complacency is the biggest danger to our way of life then terrorism ever will be...

EDIT: And who benefits if we do nothing? China and India... The longer we wait to modernize our infrastructure the more it will cost...

[edit on 9-3-2005 by sardion2000]



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 05:59 PM
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Most companies consider IT an expense and have cut IT expenditures to the bone, especially security.

BTW, cool avatar.



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by cryptorsa1001
Most companies consider IT an expense and have cut IT expenditures to the bone, especially security.

Yeah I know that for a fact
I still do not know what to believe about what happened. I am still going to err on the side of caution and call for upgrading our infrastructure. Better safe then sorry, and just imagine how many jobs it would create.



BTW, cool avatar.


Thanks! JAK's work of course




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