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Does Panspermia Caused By Earth Count For Anything

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posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 10:56 AM
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Panspermia is the hypothesis that life exists throughout the Universe, distributed by space dust, meteoroids, asteroids, comets, planetoids, and also by spacecraft carrying unintended contamination by microorganisms.

If one day it is determined that we either contaminated a planet or moon in our solar system causing life to form, would that move the bar in terms of finally accepting that life does in fact exists on other planet or, would it be more of a meh...we did it so it doesn't really count for anything.

I personally think it would move the bar quite a bit. It's not intelligent life but it would be fact life does and can exist / survive out there on its own. Life would be confirmed at that point even if we kinda helped it out even if by accident.




posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 11:23 AM
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What is life ? Something with a circulatory system ? Or able to grow, Crystalline. (more imagination needed) or another form of propagation or consumption capable abilities ? What is life?

en.wikipedia.org...
Life is a characteristic that distinguishes physical entities that have biological processes, such as signaling and self-sustaining processes, from those that do not, either because such functions have ceased (they have died), or because they never had such functions and are classified as inanimate.

Is that it ?



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 11:26 AM
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Certainly there would be collateral spreading of matter, if as we think there was any form of Blast/ Big bang or simply regional burst that propelled matter..... possible laden with 'life'



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 11:44 AM
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I don't think we need to split hairs over the meaning of life. If you need that, take a philosophy class. If it could be shown that we somehow spread life, intentionally or unintentionally, then it would provide proof of concept, but that does not mean that because we did it once, it always happens. Frankly, I suspect there is "life" nearly everywhere conditions are right. Eventually we'll figure out this is a moot point.



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
Panspermia is the hypothesis that life exists throughout the Universe, distributed by space dust, meteoroids, asteroids, comets, planetoids, and also by spacecraft carrying unintended contamination by microorganisms.

If one day it is determined that we either contaminated a planet or moon in our solar system causing life to form, would that move the bar in terms of finally accepting that life does in fact exists on other planet or, would it be more of a meh...we did it so it doesn't really count for anything.

I personally think it would move the bar quite a bit. It's not intelligent life but it would be fact life does and can exist / survive out there on its own. Life would be confirmed at that point even if we kinda helped it out even if by accident.


I think for anyone who understand the vastness of space they have already accepted life exists out there, it's extremely naive to think otherwise, hell it's naive to think there isn't other life in our galaxy alone... given billions of planets that's within it, and then there's the other trillions of galaxies with billions of their own planets. There's more planets out there than there are atoms on this earth.



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: LocalGenius

Not arguing with that at all. We are yet to find it though. If we cause life either on purpose or accident to form out there I think it's a big deal. It changes the argument from there likely is to there is life out there.



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
a reply to: LocalGenius

Not arguing with that at all. We are yet to find it though. If we cause life either on purpose or accident to form out there I think it's a big deal. It changes the argument from there likely is to there is life out there.


If WE? If anything it would be other lifeforms making US by accident, our solar system is a baby relative to others out there
Have a good day bud



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 01:58 PM
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originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
a reply to: LocalGenius

Not arguing with that at all. We are yet to find it though. If we cause life either on purpose or accident to form out there I think it's a big deal. It changes the argument from there likely is to there is life out there.


According to your argument, only if we put it there. But we are an active agent. Panspermia does not require an active agent. All you are saying is that if we, acting as an active agent, put life elsewhere, then it is more likely that another active agent did so as well, which presupposes an active agent. In other words, not particularly compelling.



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 05:45 PM
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Yeah but nah, nothing really
All it proves is life survives, life can travel.
Doesn’t explain where life originally came from outside of a region.

Irrespective we don’t see life travelling vast distances in extreme conditions, it can’t survive outside of a life support system, rocket, lab whatever



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 07:40 PM
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Great thread! (sf).

I think that Panspermia is the Modus Operandi of life in general.

It probably takes some very special (meaning sparse) environments to nurture and spawn life, but since catastrophic impacts affect all planets, spreading it to jump-start a lot of evolution is very efficient in that regard.

It is part of the plan, if there is one.

In addition, think of some of the big events on Earth like Chixulub and Chesapeake Bay... 65myo and 35myo respectively, that have blasted a lot of rock into solar orbit. Then interstellar objects like ʻOumuamua pick up pieces and take them to another star system...

Speculating on how it could get to other galaxies is a mind bender, if possible at all.

Love the subject.


edit on 21-1-2020 by charlyv because: spelling , where caught



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 09:27 PM
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Old sciefi movie . A scientist built a AI computer another person was standing there as the scientist explained how this Computer was AI and offered to let the other man ask questions .
The first question he asked the computer started giving him the LONG version of a answer .
So the scientist told the guy to ask a simple question .
The guy ask the Computer if there is LIFE on mars the computer answered YES . The Guy then laughed saying there is NO life on mars . So the scientist asked the computer why it gave a yes to life on mars question .
The computer answered ---- Despite NASA attempt of sterilize the Viking lander's some Bactria survived and are now adapting to mars .

During the moon landings the astronauts left every thing possible behind to decrees weight on one return the astronauts picked up a camera that had been left behind on a former trip and had been sitting there for a year or two and brught it back .
Once returned NASA scientist took it apart and Found Bactria that had survived for all that time . No air heat up to 280 F and cold down to - 280 f and Hard solar radiation and still some survived .
This is evidence enough that if there was not life on mars NOW there is and its been there for over 40 years .



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 09:37 PM
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a reply to: Stupidsecrets
panSPERMia is a good word for this phenomenon. Very fitting.



posted on Jan, 21 2020 @ 09:55 PM
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ALSO Back in the 1960s scientist did another experiment . They filled over a 100 Bottles with water and added living things .
Thye then tried every thing possible to KILL every thing in the Bottles .
A year later they checked them and found after every thing possible was tried some Bottles still had living things in them .

Also en.wikipedia.org...
I am sure this little critter has been posted a BUG that needs NO space suit .
yep Immange if you will a large comet hits earth ( say like the one that helped cause the death of large dinosaurs the hit in the Gulf of mexico 150 million years agaio or so .
It was so big the impact could have Lunched dirt water and dust into space its self and once in space say some mud had a
few Tardigrade in it then a 100 years later fall onto mars and once again mars got life .
By now many scientist believe mars and earth traded materials from impacts and have found metors from mars on earth that sure look like they have fossilized Bactria in them .
Honstly we really just need to send a ship to mars add water to soil near equator then see what happens . My guess things will be crawing around .



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