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One can, nevertheless, envision different and unusual circumstances that might justify a more searching review of impeachment proceedings. If the Senate were to act in a manner seriously threatening the integrity of its results, convicting, say, upon a coin-toss, or upon a summary determination that an officer of the United States was simply " 'a bad guy,' " ante, at ____ (WHITE, J., concurring in judgment), judicial interference might well be appropriate.
The Court is of the view that the Constitution forbids us even to consider his contention. I find no such prohibition and would therefore reach the merits of the claim. I concur in the judgment because the Senate fulfilled its constitutional obligation to "try" petitioner.
It should be said at the outset that, as a practical matter, it will likely make little difference whether the Court's or my view controls this case. This is so because the Senate has very wide discretion in specifying impeachment trial procedures and because it is extremely unlikely that the Senate would abuse its discretion and insist on a procedure that could not be deemed a trial by reasonable judges.
Respect for a coordinate Branch of the Government forecloses any assumption that improbable hypotheticals like those mentioned by Justice WHITE and Justice SOUTER will ever occur. Accordingly, the wise policy of judicial restraint, coupled with the potential anomalies associated with a contrary view, see ante at ____, provide a sufficient justification for my agreement with the views of THE CHIEF JUSTICE.
originally posted by: muzzleflash
It just feels too much like school age drama and forced theatrics.
The whole impeachment debacle just creates an even deeper layer of personality clashes and everyone gossiping about whatever.
I can't believe anyone takes anything in the news seriously at this point. All people want is to control each other and milk them for profits, I guess, whatever the hell you want to call it.
I dream of a greater future where people actually want to help each other rather than devoting themselves to using others for personal gain. That requires a good education system which we coincidentally don't currently have.
So really in the whole scheme of life on Earth, no it doesn't matter much. The truth is we could have spent all this time and energy on something of value but it's been squandered over pointless bickering.
I do think we need a much stronger Constitution and we as a people ought to be more seriously devoted to it's study.
I don't even recognize this govt anymore, it's filled with vultures and snakes and it's been abused and eroded. Everyone's partying on the govt dime making inside deals to embezzle all our way too high taxes, and they really don't care what normal people feel or think.
We are going to have to start over soon I'm pretty sure. Not sure how long this whole charade can last. Y'all do realize this is all BS to distract us from how we're being robbed right?
originally posted by: scrounger
a reply to: Fallingdown
I gave you a star because your OP is an interesting intellectual discussion/topic.
it is worth looking at and IF it were done the democrats fits would make everything done so far taken as a whole look like a letter to the editor in a HS paper.
but in reality it is not even in the realm of possibility much less probability
as the last two impeachment (I dont count nixon because he resigned before anything could become of it) show there is no shame in being "impeached" if you aint removed from office.
in reality it would be a PR BOOM to trump (and anyone who supports him) and a nightmare to democrats (not just the liberals since ALL FLAVORS of democrats with few exceptions supported this) .
why would he (except for the shlits and giggles of them exploding) waste precious time he has that is needed for more wins for the US citizens .
Here’s something to think about. After acquittal in the Senate which which is virtually a certainty. Will trump ask for his impeachment to be overturned by SCOTUS ?