Pelosi's "Don't Mess With Me" rant

a reply to: TheRedneck

President Trump is impeached for "high crimes". Those crimes are constitutional crimes, like obstruction of Congress, whose powers of oversight and checks and balances are constitutionally endowed. Abuse of power, is a crime because Article II doesn't, in fact, allow the president to do anything he wants, and no, the president and his administration do not enjoy "absolute immunity", and are not above the law.

The Constitution provides a remedy, through impeachment and removal from office for a president who would abuse their power and commit high crimes, that only a person in a high and powerful place can commit.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

President Trump is impeached for "high crimes".

No, ma'am, he is not. He is impeached for "Obstruction of Congress" and "Abuse of Power." That's what the Articles of Impeachment say, and the Articles of Impeachment are the charges. The Constitution mandates that such charges are to be "high crimes and misdemeanors," and we have yet to see a determination if the charges alleged do indeed fall into that category. That decision will be made by the US Senate. Your... I'm trying to be nice here... amateurish attempts at defining such category of crime mean less than nothing.

Those crimes are constitutional crimes, like obstruction of Congress, whose powers of oversight and checks and balances are constitutionally endowed. Abuse of power, is a crime because Article II doesn't, in fact, allow the president to do anything, and no, the president and his administration do not enjoy "absolute immunity", and are not above the law.

I suggest you actually read the US Constitution. You obviously have not.The President is the Chief Executive, meaning he has the authority to enforce the laws of the United States of America. The President is the Commander in Chief of the military, which means he makes the final decision on military matters. He is not beholden to Congress as you seem to believe; Congress has oversight, yes, but not the power to demand the President perform any specific actions without enaction of a law that withstands Constitutional scrutiny. Congressional overrule may be imposed either by legislation as mentioned, by withholding funding, or by impeachment and removal. Removal requires 2/3 of the Senate to agree with the charges made by the House.

Congress does not rule the United States as a monarchy. I'm tired of hearing "The President is not above the law." Nancy Pelosi is not above the law either!

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

No, ma'am, he is not. He is impeached for "Obstruction of Congress" and "Abuse of Power." That's what the Articles of Impeachment say, and the Articles of Impeachment are the charges. The Constitution mandates that such charges are to be "high crimes and misdemeanors," and we have yet to see a determination if the charges alleged do indeed fall into that category.

Obstruction of Congress and Abuse of Power are high crimes. Those are the high crimes for which Trump was impeached, and now must stand trial for removal from office.

Trump is an elected short term Executive Chief. He is not a king. He doesn't have absolute immunity. He is not above the law, nor is he above Congress. They share the powers endowed by the Constitution equally, through the 3 branches of government. Checks and balance and oversight are powers and duties particularly assigned to Congress.

Impeachment and a Senate trial for removal from office for high crimes is a constitutional duty.

Pelosi, in my opinion is to old, and definitely to sheltered, been in politics to long, to make proper decisions. Been playing politics for to long. Hell look at her district. Horrible politician. As far as this impeachment farce, lol the democrats are doing what trump, wants. Trump, is 5 moves ahead, I am also gonna bet the senate republicans, will drag, the proceedings to hurt the senators running for potus, it is hilarious. In the end of this crap show, the democrats will be fighting themselves BEGGING for an impeachment vote. This impeachment farce has to be one of the worst political moves I have seen, not only was it instigated by the sitting potus, it was received with hatred and excitement. Yea pelosi, has gotten played.


Don’t think so... just watch how this plays out in the senate..

You guys/gals are in for a big surprise.

Nancy gave the White House a full month to prepare for the Impeachment Trial.

That, in addition to also helping Joe Biden, by keeping Warren/Sanders off the campaign trail for a few weeks.

The most strategy-oriented Speaker we've had in a long time!

a reply to: carewemust

Yep can’t wait for the warren and sanders camp, to turn on the democrats in November.. PELOSI, is brilliant.


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a reply to: TomLawless

Oh my.... did she really show that much cleavage ? Looks like she forgot her cami that morning. At least AOC stays fully dressed.. I think anyway.
Love Candice!!!

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: TheRedneck

No, ma'am, he is not. He is impeached for "Obstruction of Congress" and "Abuse of Power." That's what the Articles of Impeachment say, and the Articles of Impeachment are the charges. The Constitution mandates that such charges are to be "high crimes and misdemeanors," and we have yet to see a determination if the charges alleged do indeed fall into that category.

Obstruction of Congress and Abuse of Power are high crimes. Those are the high crimes for which Trump was impeached, and now must stand trial for removal from office.

Trump is an elected short term Executive Chief. He is not a king. He doesn't have absolute immunity. He is not above the law, nor is he above Congress. They share the powers endowed by the Constitution equally, through the 3 branches of government. Checks and balance and oversight are powers and duties particularly assigned to Congress.

Impeachment and a Senate trial for removal from office for high crimes is a constitutional duty.

Neither is Congress above the law! Enough of their overreach in usurping the powers of the Executive Branch! The bunch of Narcissistic tyrannical Marxist bullies!
Oh yah and we’ve all seen their “ solemn” walk through the halls! Hypocrites!

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: BoscoMoney

Thread isn't about religion, it's about being a good person and Pelosi aint it.

Religion aside then. Can one be a "good person" and still harbor hatred for another?

Pelosi is a Marxist Progressive and an elitist. Marxists have a historical hatred of God and God-fearing individuals. She uses her so-called Catholic upbringing to bolster her authoritative power over others. It looks to me like a classic case of rebellion.

It appears to me that she just isn't good at communicating. Her and Trump have that in common. LOL

Seems like they're all working with a pretty thin script and they have to just keep repeating the same old stuff over and over to make it seem like they have anything to say.

It worries me because this really seems like some kind of distraction.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Obstruction of Congress and Abuse of Power are high crimes. Those are the high crimes for which Trump was impeached, and now must stand trial for removal from office.

There will be no removal from office. And as for the charges being "high crimes," as I already said, you do not make that judgement. The Senate will tell us both whether they are high crimes or not. Just because you want them to be high crimes does not make them so.

Trump is an elected short term Executive Chief. He is not a king. He doesn't have absolute immunity. He is not above the law, nor is he above Congress. They share the powers endowed by the Constitution equally, through the 3 branches of government. Checks and balance and oversight are powers and duties particularly assigned to Congress.

Nancy Pelosi is an elected official as well. You seem to think she is some sort of Queen.

Read the Constitution sometime instead of letting those idiots at CNN/MSNBC read it for you. The President is above the law as long as he is sitting! He cannot be charged with a crime in a criminal court. He can be impeached and removed from office should he be found to be guilty of an impeachable offense, and after he is out of office he can again be charged like anyone else. Congressmen as well are immune from most prosecution (although there are exceptions for them). That is all in the Constitution you seem so eager to follow when you like what (you think) it says.

There is no requirement for the President to comply with anything Congress says or does, unless it passes both houses and is signed by the President, or passes both houses with a 2/3 supermajority. Then it's a law which the President is sworn to uphold. Until it is a law, the President is completely within his power to tell Congress to go jump in a lake. So can Congress tell the President to go jump in a lake. They are equal. You said as much, but you seem to not understand what equal means.

The President is required to obey decisions from the Supreme Court. Pelosi could have asked the Supreme Court to rule that the President must turn over the documentation she wanted... but you might remember her telling you that would take too long. Then it won't take too long for her to hold on to the impeachment for a month. Face it, she lied to your face (again!) and you're still sitting there toeing her line like a good little peasant. No, she knew that her request wouldn't hold water in light of the measly case she had thrown together with Schiff's help.

I also don't think you even know what a king is. If Trump were a king, you and your head would likely be in different locations right now. Kim Jong Un is a "king." If he wants someone dead, they get dead. In North Korea, your rhetoric would have you disappearing pretty quickly. There is no check on Kim's power, unlike Trump. Were Trump a king, there would be no impeachment trial! He could just decree that. Trump has followed every law to the letter, from declaring a National Emergency to coordinating an investigation into Burisma with Ukraine. That's his job, like it or not, and Joe Biden is not above any laws... he was until January of 2017, but he's not now. His butt will fit in a little concrete cell as good as anyone's.

Impeachment and a Senate trial for removal from office for high crimes is a constitutional duty.

Should there ever be a Democrat elected President again, I will remind you of that... and demand that he be impeached! Doesn't have to e a reason, even. No high crimes needed; we can make them up out of thin air, because it's then a Constitutional duty.

Bullsnap. It is a Constitutional ability. A duty must be carried out; an ability may be carried out if needed. Investigating allegations of corruption... now that's a duty. Even if it could implicate Joe Biden's boy.

Try reading the Constitution. It's not that long. Then you can come back and tell me how the President must bow to every whim of Congress and Congress is required to impeach every President as a duty. At least you might know what you're lying about.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

The Senate will tell us both whether they are high crimes or not.

Nope. The House told us that they are. The House of Representatives has the sole power of impeachment, and Trump has been impeached for the high crimes of obstruction of Congress and abuse of power. The Senate will tell us whether or not these crimes require Trump to be removed from office.

The President is required to obey decisions from the Supreme Court.

The president is required to uphold and execute the laws that Congress legislates, and the Executive signs into law.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Nope. The House told us that they are. The House of Representatives has the sole power of impeachment, and Trump has been impeached for the high crimes of obstruction of Congress and abuse of power. The Senate will tell us whether or not these crimes require Trump to be removed from office.

Hahahahaha! Oh, you've got it bad! Did Queen Nancy tell you that?

The House investigates and accuses (aka "impeaches"). The Senate tries the case. That includes determining whether or not Trump is guilty of the "charges" against him and whether or not he should be removed from office for being guilty. The Senate has sole power now. The House is finished... they did a mockery of a real investigation, threw together some half-brained scribbles that claimed Trump was guilty of doing his job, called them an impeachment, took a month to scream at the sky (and Queen Nancy to sober up enough), and sent them to the Senate. Now even they have figured out they did a lousy job and are wanting the Senate to open a new investigation in the middle of a trial.

And that ain't happening.

The Senate has full power to acquit Trump. That means declare him not guilty of the charges in the Articles of Impeachment. Did Queen Nancy not mention that? I bet she didn't mention it will take 20 Republicans to side with the Democrats in the Senate in order to convict or remove Trump, either.

Heck, the Senate can acquit Trump as soon as the House Managers and Trump's defense team get through with opening statements if they want to. If a majority call for a vote and less than 2/3 of the Senators vote to convict him, Trump is not guilty on all charges. Done.

Crow: it's what's for breakfast!

The president is required to uphold and execute the laws that Congress legislates, and the Executive signs into law.

Yes, I believe I said that. He also is required to uphold the decisions of the Supreme Court.

(Spoiler: So is Congress!)

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner every single day until re-elected in November. And then for four more years.

Crows just might go extinct, if the Democrats don’t first.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Blah, blah, blah.

The Senate can't unimpeach Trump. They can only choose to let his crimes ride, or remove him from office.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Strong with this one, the Dark Side is.

Hide and watch. You might learn something.

TheRedneck

a reply to: Ahabstar

Maybe we should go ahead and put crows on the endangered species list?

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Hahahahaha! Oh, you've got it bad! Did Queen Nancy tell you that?

Okay...So that means that you think that Bill Clinton has been exonerated and unimpeached?

Laugh all you want. It doesn't change the fact that Trump has been impeached for the high crimes of obstruction of Congress and abuse of power.

Now, he stands trial at the Senate, who will determine whether or not the severity of those crimes require his removal from office.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

You're an idiot.