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originally posted by: ChesterJohn
Disraeli, just a reminder, you are claiming things that are clear in the preserved English Bible of the Authorized Version. If any of these things do come true you will be a false prophet.
The Temple is clearly said to be rebuilt in the book of Revelation. to say it wont means you are saying something Gd did not say and therefore you are a false teacher/prophet.
Just be careful, from what I can tell, anyone who teaches the exact opposite of what is found in the Holy Bible is not a saved individual. I am not judging you but the word does.
originally posted by: DISRAELI
The full title of this theme ought to be “Things that won’t happen in the end-times”.
I’m referring to those anticipated events, featuring in speculations about the end-times, which are based on misinterpretations of what the Bible says.
In this case, I’m looking at “the destruction of Damascus”.
This expectation is based on a genuine prophecy;
“Behold, Damascus will cease to be a city, and will become a heap of ruins”- Isaiah ch17 v1.
So any critique of the theory needs to be based on a better understanding of the way the prophecy should be applied.
We need to recognise, in the first place, that prophets are normally speaking to the people of their own time, and prophecies with a genuine reference to the end-times are few and far between.
Other prophecies of the fall of Damascus can be found.
. . .
We need not attach too much significance to “never to be occupied again”, which is the common hyperbole of the prophetic voice. Damascus was probably deserted long enough after the Assyrian conquest to make the prophet’s point.
The destruction of Damascus appears in this prophecy as a detached event, which has no sequel. An enemy of God’s people comes to a bad end. That’s it. In other prophecies, other enemies of God’s people come to a bad end. But we’re not shown any narrative links which connect these things to later events.
When prophecy talks about the end-times (which is not very often),
Only the weaker faith needs the re-assurance of an elaborate and comforting timetable.
originally posted by: JON666
When will the temple be rebuilt? Prior to the millennium or after when the kingdom is set up?
originally posted by: JoseGarcia
originally posted by: JON666
When will the temple be rebuilt? Prior to the millennium or after when the kingdom is set up?
To me, a logical, rational, congruent, Biblical understanding of that issue is easy enough to work out.
1. In order for various GREAT TRIBULATION prophecies to be fulfilled involving the Temple, there MUST be a new TEMPLE for them to occur in.
2. The Abomination of Desolation of satan's abuse of the altar & Holy of Holies would, in my mind, render THAT Temple unalterably polluted.
3. Therefore, I believe there will be yet another Temple built AFTER Armageddon for use during Christ's Millennial Reign as other prophecies indicate.
I don't think the matter is a lot more complex than that outline.
originally posted by: JON666
That is your interpretation. My interpretation is is that the abomination was the continuation of the Jewish priesthood making animal sacrifes for 40 years (time of testing) after Jesus the spotless lamb gave the final sacrifice for sin.
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: JoseGarcia
I think the premise "Prophets are talking about the end-times when they say they're talking about the end-times" will carry us a long way. I see generalised statements that God's enemies will attack, and that he will overcome them, and about the state of things after all his enemies have been overcome. I did a series last year about the New Testament take on the "final state" prophecies.
I don't believe the Bible intends to provide a more detailed narrative of events before the final battle. For one thing, we don't need one. The whole project of trying to identify a detailed narrative is a comparatively recent doctrinal innovation.
originally posted by: JON666
a reply to: JoseGarcia
Why would God setup system again this side of the millennium that He destroyed in 70AD? The millennium temple will be for a memorial. God does not dwell in temples made of stone. God used the Romans to destroy the temple then used them to spread the gospel.
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: JoseGarcia
Next time- the return or otherwise of the Genesis giants.
originally posted by: JON666
a reply to: JoseGarcia
Then let's just forget the redemption of Jesus and we can all just start sacrificing animal again. Same outcome?
originally posted by: makemap
I'm pretty sure it already happened long time ago.
Mongol civil war of Damascus
Karamanid flag looks close to Isreali flag
. . .
The 21st century war in Syria has nothing to do with this bible verse. It is the mark of the beast we are worrying about under corporate influence(microchip, nano warfare coming up)