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posted on Jan, 17 2020 @ 07:28 AM
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Almost every single thing Trump does to help the country is either met with a Obama era judge lawsuit to put it on hold or Dems fight it tooth and nail and/or the media runs negative stories on it 24/7.

I'm amazed at how much he has got done despite the unprecedented levels of obstruction he's faced.




posted on Jan, 17 2020 @ 08:25 AM
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originally posted by: jjkenobi
Almost every single thing Trump does to help the country is either met with a Obama era judge lawsuit to put it on hold or Dems fight it tooth and nail and/or the media runs negative stories on it 24/7.

I'm amazed at how much he has got done despite the unprecedented levels of obstruction he's faced.



Exactly..

I can understand why its not an option to get involved with courts and judges, but that level of obstruction exists across government sectors as well. Its not just the top guys but middle management , actively working to remove an elected president.



posted on Jan, 17 2020 @ 09:02 AM
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Another problem Trump has with balancing impeachment and the swamp is that he needs to keep at least 34% of the senators on board or else he is fired. Any charge can be used for impeachment, what is important is how much support Trump has in the Senate.



posted on Jan, 17 2020 @ 11:06 AM
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originally posted by: Agit8dChop
I don't mean for this to be a political plop fight, but genuinely one question that puts a lot of doubt into my mind about Trump and the goals here, is
''what is causing their inability to stamp out Obama era corruption, that still exists in government agencies?''

Why cant trump just walk in in his capacity of the President with his office behind him, take over and expose/investigate? put new people in charge kind of thing and change the direction of the FBI, CIA, NSA, DOJ etc...

A few examples..

Retired General Michael Flynn.
Following the news reports of him withdrawing his confession, i note its the ''Government'' prosecutors and DOJ who are pursuing this ugly kind of justice. The government... ?... how is Trump and/or Barr not putting a stop to this if its Government prosecutors?

Apple phones
If it were true (and I'm not sure it is) that Apple are refusing to unlock the devices - why cant the US Government force them too in the name of National Security?... if the US Government can compel phone companies, ie ATT to tap phones and logs.. why cant they here?

Clinton Emails and the FBI
Why hasn't trump picked 10 VIP and DC respected people, named them all special investigators and march them into the FBI's head office and declare "Everyone out, we're in charge and we're picking new management!"
Then looked into: a) Clinton's emails b) wiretap FISA logs c) Strzok and Page texts d) Crowdstrike Server e) interview notes for Flynn, Clinton etc etc

FAKE NEWS
Why haven't they started Investigating and exposing the DNCs financial transactions with corrupt media outlets.. CNN, MSNC, WP etc?

It can't all be a grand plan, I'm pretty sure that most of the restis ie epstein, iran, nk, cia...

He's still standing strong, but he takes a beating each and every day by a lot of people still in a government capacity...


I have felt similarly on these issues & facts.

As I understand it--it is very difficult to find quality people to fill the slots. Trump Admin has reportedly almost begged Christian groups to put forward honorable people to fill the slots.

Personally, I think the job slots would do better empty than to have them continue to be inhabited by Marxist globalist agents. Enough already yet.

And I think in some cases, Trump needs to lead the Marines into various offices, escort the office holder out to jail in GITMO & confiscate all the documents.

Let the gears of corruptocrats grind to a halt for however long. The Republic would be better off.

Maybe we need to go on Whitehouse.gov site and leave Trump msgs to such an effect by the thousands.

I understand somewhat the delay to arrest the evildoers because of needing to have iron-clad cases that cannot be lost on a technicality.

But we don't have forever to wait. The evildoers are continuing to destroy the USA day in & day out.

Thanks for your points.



posted on Jan, 17 2020 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: Agit8dChop

Because the democrats think investigating corruption is there job. Anyone else that does it is doing it for political gain. That's the way it seems to me anyway.



posted on Jan, 17 2020 @ 11:44 AM
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You haven't wondered why trump hasn't indited Hillary? I hope trump does take on the 3 letters.



posted on Jan, 17 2020 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Goedhardt
An American President does not have unlimited power to do all he wants. Also as a political figure he always has to be careful about optics. If he would get involved with an investigation against his former opponent, that would look terrible. Also the defendant would use that in a trial.

It is not the job of a president to micromanage the entire government, thats why he has secretary’s on all departments.

The media picture President Trump as a dictator. Your OP points out nicely why he is not. He knows what he can/cannot do, also what he should/shouldn’t do.


But he said he was going to drain the swamp.

Three years and the same allegations we heard about in 2016 and, if anything, the swamp got deeper with the guys Trump brought along.

Trump is not a powerful leader. He postures and preens but hasn't come up with the goods.


Draining the swamp doesn't remove the critters. It only exposes them.



posted on Jan, 17 2020 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: jjkenobi
Almost every single thing Trump does to help the country is either met with a Obama era judge lawsuit to put it on hold or Dems fight it tooth and nail and/or the media runs negative stories on it 24/7.

I'm amazed at how much he has got done despite the unprecedented levels of obstruction he's faced.


Every President has had opposition. There's nothing special or different about the opposition Trump has received.

He just whinges more on public forums.



posted on Jan, 17 2020 @ 07:39 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: jjkenobi
Almost every single thing Trump does to help the country is either met with a Obama era judge lawsuit to put it on hold or Dems fight it tooth and nail and/or the media runs negative stories on it 24/7.

I'm amazed at how much he has got done despite the unprecedented levels of obstruction he's faced.


Every President has had opposition. There's nothing special or different about the opposition Trump has received.

He just whinges more on public forums.


You are clearly not a historian. This opposition now actually ís unprecedented...



posted on Jan, 17 2020 @ 10:13 PM
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originally posted by: Goedhardt

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: jjkenobi
Almost every single thing Trump does to help the country is either met with a Obama era judge lawsuit to put it on hold or Dems fight it tooth and nail and/or the media runs negative stories on it 24/7.

I'm amazed at how much he has got done despite the unprecedented levels of obstruction he's faced.


Every President has had opposition. There's nothing special or different about the opposition Trump has received.

He just whinges more on public forums.


You are clearly not a historian. This opposition now actually ís unprecedented...


Remember the impeachments of Nixon and Clinton?
Remember the "lock her up" stuff?
Remember the Obama birth certificate stuff?
Remember Carter, and the Bush's (both of them), and Reagan, and literally every President?

Each instance of these things was investigated and argued in the news and opinionated over and some even prosecuted.

The word "unprecedented" means that there was no precedent - that it has never happened before.

The idiot who used the phrase in regard to Trump obviously didn't know what the word means or was ignorant of history and clearly neither do those that ape it like it was true.

I mean, some of the 'push-back' against previous Presidents and political rivals came from Trump himself! How 'stable genius' is that!



posted on Jan, 17 2020 @ 10:36 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

There's nothing special or different about the opposition Trump has received.

He just whinges more on public forums.


you're kidding, right?

edit on 17/1/20 by Agit8dChop because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 17 2020 @ 11:58 PM
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originally posted by: Agit8dChop

originally posted by: chr0naut

There's nothing special or different about the opposition Trump has received.

He just whinges more on public forums.


you're kidding, right?


No, of course not. Not kidding.



posted on Jan, 18 2020 @ 01:28 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

Every President has had opposition. There's nothing special or different about the opposition Trump has received.

He just whinges more on public forums.


WRONG WHOLESALE.

96% 24/7/365 SHRILL HOSTILITY by the Marxist globalist satanist Main Stream Media is UNPRECIDENTED by several orders of magnitude.

I don't know what planet you are living on but it's clearly not the same one I'm living on.



posted on Jan, 18 2020 @ 01:34 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
you're kidding, right?

No, of course not. Not kidding.


OK. If you're not kidding, the other alternatives appear to be:

You're

1. Utterly & terminally Kool-Aid saturated clueless about complex political & cultural facts & goings on.
or
2. Living in a deep cave totally out of touch with current realities.
or
3. a Marxist globalist agent/shill spewing lying propaganda.
or
4. Extremely incompetent at observation, perception & analyses of complex data inputs.
or
5. a seditious treasonous agent deliberately trying to inject treasonous falsehoods into the public dialogue.
. . .
I don't have a lot of other explanations for such a stinking pile of nonsense.



posted on Jan, 18 2020 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: JoseGarcia

originally posted by: chr0naut

Every President has had opposition. There's nothing special or different about the opposition Trump has received.

He just whinges more on public forums.


WRONG WHOLESALE.

96% 24/7/365 SHRILL HOSTILITY by the Marxist globalist satanist Main Stream Media is UNPRECIDENTED by several orders of magnitude.

I don't know what planet you are living on but it's clearly not the same one I'm living on.


Why do you keep using the word "unprecedented"? There is precedent for a President to have opposition. It goes with the job.

You are simply repeating nonsense verbatim, and using the same words.

Every President has had opposition- every one!



posted on Jan, 18 2020 @ 12:07 PM
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originally posted by: JoseGarcia

originally posted by: chr0naut
you're kidding, right?

No, of course not. Not kidding.


OK. If you're not kidding, the other alternatives appear to be:

You're

1. Utterly & terminally Kool-Aid saturated clueless about complex political & cultural facts & goings on.
or
2. Living in a deep cave totally out of touch with current realities.
or
3. a Marxist globalist agent/shill spewing lying propaganda.
or
4. Extremely incompetent at observation, perception & analyses of complex data inputs.
or
5. a seditious treasonous agent deliberately trying to inject treasonous falsehoods into the public dialogue.
. . .
I don't have a lot of other explanations for such a stinking pile of nonsense.


No, I was saying that the President's opposition was not unprecedented. Trump himself has opposed previous Presidents, frequently, and in public (and often erroneously). That IS precedent.



posted on Jan, 18 2020 @ 02:37 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

Why do you keep using the word "unprecedented"? There is precedent for a President to have opposition. It goes with the job.

You are simply repeating nonsense verbatim, and using the same words.

Every President has had opposition- every one!


Uhhhh . . . it is mystifying, to this psychologist, that you seem to have a virtually total incapacity to distinguish between

say a 5lb level of opposition as President with many days, even weeks, if not months of relatively no significant flack

vs

what Trump has to face 24/7/365 with say a 25 TONS level of flack by the 96% Marxist globalist controlled media spewing brazen lies daily if not hourly.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT IS AN ISSUE OF THE DEGREE of OPPOSITION that is unprecedented.

I'm 73 years old. I've watched keenly how ALL the Presidents from Ike on have fared in the public square.

You are 1,000% off the wall brazenly WRONG to equate the hostility Trump has faced virtually from the time he decided to run until now--with anything remotely in the same galactic cluster as what the other Presidents have had to face--even as a total for the whole lot of them together.

There is absolutely no RATIONAL comparison.

That you keep insisting there is equality in the degrees of flack says tons about your perceptiveness, your awareness, your logic, reasoning, values, and probably your capacity to understand.

Maybe I just need to realize you are a Marxist globalist agent/shill & forget about it.

Sheesh.

edit on 1812020 by JoseGarcia because: double words

edit on 1812020 by JoseGarcia because: less hyperbole

edit on 1812020 by JoseGarcia because: trying to be clearer & less hyperbolic



posted on Jan, 18 2020 @ 09:28 PM
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originally posted by: JoseGarcia

originally posted by: chr0naut

Why do you keep using the word "unprecedented"? There is precedent for a President to have opposition. It goes with the job.

You are simply repeating nonsense verbatim, and using the same words.

Every President has had opposition- every one!


Uhhhh . . . it is mystifying, to this psychologist, that you seem to have a virtually total incapacity to distinguish between

say a 5lb level of opposition as President with many days, even weeks, if not months of relatively no significant flack

vs

what Trump has to face 24/7/365 with say a 25 TONS level of flack by the 96% Marxist globalist controlled media spewing brazen lies daily if not hourly.


Oh, does an insult have mass now? Or are you just making up a value to suit your opinion?

But surely, haven't you noticed the daily multiple anti-liberal/Democrat/leftist (or whatever label you wish to apply) threads on ATS, especially in the mud pit? Look at the numbers of pro-Trump OP's compared to those in opposition to Trump and then come back and tell me how Trump is so picked on.

Ditto for the pro Trump media such as Breitbart and Faux News, etc. They must produce hundreds of derogatory pages against the Democrats - per day.


IN OTHER WORDS, IT IS AN ISSUE OF THE DEGREE of OPPOSITION that is unprecedented.

I'm 73 years old. I've watched keenly how ALL the Presidents from Ike on have fared in the public square.

You are 1,000% off the wall brazenly WRONG to equate the hostility Trump has faced virtually from the time he decided to run until now--with anything remotely in the same galactic cluster as what the other Presidents have had to face--even as a total for the whole lot of them together.

There is absolutely no RATIONAL comparison.

That you keep insisting there is equality in the degrees of flack says tons about your perceptiveness, your awareness, your logic, reasoning, values, and probably your capacity to understand.

Maybe I just need to realize you are a Marxist globalist agent/shill & forget about it.

Sheesh.


This very site proves you wrong.

The Mud Pit

edit on 18/1/2020 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 18 2020 @ 09:38 PM
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originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: Agit8dChop

To begin with perhaps he shoild stop hiring swamp creatures to go after other swamp creatures. It hasnt been working, shocker


There are so many of them, it's startling. Billions of our tax dollars flow into trusts owned by top politicians and bureaucrats. There are also many politicians subject to being blackmailed by both Domestic and International authorities.

After listening to former Congressman Trey Gowdy recently, he appears to fall into the latter category. Also just revealed is the existence of compromising photos of Congressman Adam Schiff.



posted on Jan, 18 2020 @ 10:39 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: JoseGarcia

originally posted by: chr0naut

Why do you keep using the word "unprecedented"? There is precedent for a President to have opposition. It goes with the job.

You are simply repeating nonsense verbatim, and using the same words.

Every President has had opposition- every one!


Uhhhh . . . it is mystifying, to this psychologist, that you seem to have a virtually total incapacity to distinguish between

say a 5lb level of opposition as President with many days, even weeks, if not months of relatively no significant flack

vs

what Trump has to face 24/7/365 with say a 25 TONS level of flack by the 96% Marxist globalist controlled media spewing brazen lies daily if not hourly.


Oh, does an insult have mass now? Or are you just making up a value to suit your opinion?

But surely, haven't you noticed the daily multiple anti-liberal/Democrat/leftist (or whatever label you wish to apply) threads on ATS, especially in the mud pit? Look at the numbers of pro-Trump OP's compared to those in opposition to Trump and then come back and tell me how Trump is so picked on.

Ditto for the pro Trump media such as Breitbart and Faux News, etc. They must produce hundreds of derogatory pages against the Democrats - per day.


IN OTHER WORDS, IT IS AN ISSUE OF THE DEGREE of OPPOSITION that is unprecedented.

I'm 73 years old. I've watched keenly how ALL the Presidents from Ike on have fared in the public square.

You are 1,000% off the wall brazenly WRONG to equate the hostility Trump has faced virtually from the time he decided to run until now--with anything remotely in the same galactic cluster as what the other Presidents have had to face--even as a total for the whole lot of them together.

There is absolutely no RATIONAL comparison.

That you keep insisting there is equality in the degrees of flack says tons about your perceptiveness, your awareness, your logic, reasoning, values, and probably your capacity to understand.

Maybe I just need to realize you are a Marxist globalist agent/shill & forget about it.

Sheesh.


This very site proves you wrong.

The Mud Pit


Thanks for proving that there is no rationality, reasoning, accurate perceptiveness, objectivity etc. to your observations & conclusions whatsoever.

You are evidently a dyed-in-the-wool Marxist globalist agent/shill regardless of your costume or window-dressing.

No need to waste a lot more time with your off the wall assertions so totally askew from objective reality.




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