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Navy - Top-secret UFO files could cause "grave damage" to U.S. national security if released

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posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 10:04 AM
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a reply to: fleabit

I liked how an interview between Jeremy Corbell and (I think) Joe Rogan described how we might be viewed:

"oh how quaint - they burn crap and propel it out the back to move!"




posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: MoonMine
Sorry, but there is nowhere to go.




Great line!

So stupid how every Star Trek and Star Wars planet a human can walk around in a T-shirt and breath the air just like they are on the Earths equator.



posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 11:02 AM
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originally posted by: fleabit
I've always been baffled by the reasoning of "it's impossible with the distances involved, for anyone to have visited our planet."


Humans are still hung up on the faulty speed of light limit that some human (Einstein) came up with in the 1930's. Because of his involvement with crashed disk in the 1940's even Einstein knew before his death that he was wrong about is own speed limit.

Reminding me of one of humanities dumbest sayings:

"You can't get there from here."



posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: Alien Abduct

The question we should be asking is
WHAT are these alien craft are doing?

And what is the attraction of this area?

Do they hang out around the Channel Islands because they have a base there underwater?

I am not one of these people who believe in portals, but I suppose that would be another option, that it is some kind of arrival location.

But if you do not want to be seen, why hang out around a major metropolitan area?



posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 12:15 PM
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a reply to: spiritualarchitect

They are studying whales and whale songs.

Seriously

We are not the target of there curiosity. Google whales and UAP. A guy actually lured a tic tac and posted a thread on reddit. While beaming whale songs.

Deepnueron i think. Seems like it should be a bigger story


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posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: fleabit

Earth is so unique it will be quite a challenge to find something similar - even at Warp 9.9 you would still need generational vessels to reach and explore systems that might have planets suitable for humans.


I doubt if we survive ourselves and manage greater technological breakthroughs, that our space travel will be based on propulsion. I mean.. perhaps.. at first? There are probably much quicker ways to travel, be it utilizing quantum technology, gravity, breaking dimensional barriers, or something else - who knows. It's very narrow-minded to assume that anyone visiting us could only have done so using propulsion that takes generations to get anywhere. Once we progress, I doubt we will either.

I've always been baffled by the reasoning of "it's impossible with the distances involved, for anyone to have visited our planet." Sounds like us calling the moon a wheel of cheese all over again.


I agree I was a bit negative. Linear travel to other systems or - the big leap - to other galaxies does indeed not seem the way to go. Other means would have to be invented like the ones you suggested. Teleportation would be nice.
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posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 02:29 PM
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originally posted by: Rancidmilk2go
a reply to: spiritualarchitect
They are studying whales and whale songs.


Then why are they not underwater already? Why are they being seen in the air at all?



posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 02:48 PM
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They are also underwater

The object that cmdr fravor saw below the tic tac was a whale doing whatever with the tic tac...



Here is a Video from a company of a tic tac tricked to come down from where using whale songs. Its caught on Flir.

mobile.twitter.com...


Here is the company doing this


www.google.com...< br />

This is real research. The whale connection exists for some reason its not a bigger story.


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posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 03:14 PM
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a reply to: LookingAtMars

Put it this way there is more chance of it being of Earthly origin than extraterrestrial given the distance between the stars.



posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 03:17 PM
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Maybe they are aliens and are here to help because they need friends and don't want us to blow up?

We maybe useful in some way to them. Or they are the wardens drone guards…



posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: watchandwait410

Well, it's rather an interesting way, not to say hello if that's the case.

And these wardens/drone guards don't seem to have stopped us sending missions to the Moon or robotic probes to other worlds, and even beyond the edge of our own star system.

My bet is someones managed to build some type of magnetohydrodynamic propulsion or even Albecurrie drive type affair given the lack of heat signature/plumes and the maneuvers this thing seems to pull off.
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posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: watchandwait410

Well, it's rather an interesting way, not to say hello if that's the case.

And these wardens/drone guards don't seem to have stopped us sending missions to the Moon or robotic probes to other worlds, and even beyond the edge of our own star system.

My bet is someones managed to build some type of magnetohydrodynamic propulsion or even Albecurrie drive type affair given the lack of heat signature/plumes and the maneuvers this thing seems to pull off.


idk I just think just because we cant see the walls doesn't mean it is still not a prison. Right now we cant see the walls but we might see them as a species eventually. It is a perfect prison, seemingly infinite is a great illusion of freedom.

lol... we should laugh at it until the joke is on us. For now let us just enjoy our endless prison yard.

Or we are truly free and I am just freaking out at stuff I don't comprehend. I tend to think the worst of things.



posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 04:05 PM
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Well you know the old saying "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

Our universe is a big place, apparently infinitely so, but to any race that manages to mitigate space-time or be able to navigate the distances between the stars other than that of a straight line, distance might not be all its cracked up to be.

As to free, nobody is truly free just down to the fact that we are a social animal.



posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 04:48 PM
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I am sure I am thinking in a limited capacity as a human from the present void of advanced technology and enhancements but just thinking about infinity currently makes my brain hurt. Hopefully people of the future will find a way around this obstacle with quantum computer interfaces or whatever.

I just think that there is to much infinite to figure out the real truth about this reality. Infinite Universes, reality and dimensions. It just seem like to much to sort out right now. I just wish I would be able to find the truth while the me I am is currently alive... I guess you never know when death could be the big revealer. It just sucks I won't find the truth the long way round( by living a long time and discovering the truth while alive).

The good thing is if humanity figures out everything then reviving people from the distant past may just be easy to do. That would be pretty sweet to live and experience everything from the point you left off(death). Here's to hoping.



posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 05:29 PM
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I agree and have voiced this opinion to much dissent amongst the “disclosure phase IV” crowd. This info is coming straight from the military. It, like most all UFO content, is propaganda to influence public and foreign opinion.

Replace the words “ufo” or “alien” with “angels” or “demons” and what do you have? The same thing, a belief system existing on faith.

a reply to: LookingAtMars



posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 05:44 PM
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a reply to: Rob808

Except UFOs, UAPs, whatever you want to call them, is not a belief system. It has strong evidence to support the fact that the phenomenon is physical and real and has been documented by civilians and military alike. Not to mention the tonne of anecdotal evidence from thousands of witnesses.



posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 06:43 PM
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a reply to: watchandwait410

They are not here to study us. They study whales



posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: watchandwait410

Humanity probably will never possess the tools nor the intellect to understand the entirety of the grand scheme of things.

And woe betide a universe where we did manage to understand anything but a fraction of it workings, as i imagine it would be rather a boring place to exist.

Science and mathematics will always pose more questions and queries than it ever manages to address or answer just down to the nature of the beast in question. And the fact that new and better theories supplant current notions, as new and better data and information become available kind of reinforces the notion that we will never know everything in its entirety.

It will be good if humanity manages to just ride out the next 1000 years, even better if we should ever manage to depart this rock for greener pastures, as we are never really going to know anything for sure unless we leave the nest.
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posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 07:27 PM
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a reply to: Rancidmilk2go

You should make a thread about that.

I will S&F it.



posted on Jan, 16 2020 @ 08:14 PM
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also very interested in this Whales/UAP connection and would be all about a thread on it.
I did a bit of preliminary searching and found only the video and article linked earlier in the thread, which is intriguing but also really not enough to go off. there has to be much much more material on this, somewhere.



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