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GOP senators reject plans to dismiss Trump impeachment

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posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 12:44 AM
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a reply to: Meniscus

For once, MSNBC had a mentally balanced Impeachment Expert on the air. She warned the idiot MSNBC Trump-haters on the panel to be careful what they wish for.

To paraphrase: "Everyone here should consider this... A FAIR TRIAL means Democrats are free to obtain the witnesses they want, and Republicans are free to obtain the witnesses they want.

In effect, a Pandora's box would be opened, because defending President Trump would entail having witnesses that Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler wouldn't allow in the House Impeachment."




posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 12:46 AM
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originally posted by: ErEhWoN

Even if they don't do what's right, Bernie will kick his ass in November! FEEL THE BURN!


You really want an old socialist? That is the best you can do?



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 12:50 AM
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originally posted by: Meniscus
a reply to: putnam6

They want to be able to call Mulvaney and Bolton. They also want to draw this out so they can maybe win the court case to get the Mueller grand jury and raw evidence released.


Have no doubt there are both sides with their hands in the cookie jar, the more corrupt even more reason to ask for an investigation.



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 12:51 AM
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Romney and the other little band of McCainites were always going to give the Dems a majority in the Senate.
That is what has been happening during the delay in sending the articles - conversations between Schumer, Pelosi, Romney, Collins, et al.
It means that in terms of witnesses, the Dems will be in control of who is called, but whether they can get 67 Senators on board remains another matter.
My sense is that this all depends on how many GOP Senators are wrapped up in the Ukrainian money making corruption.

edit on 14/1/2020 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 01:00 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

You are correct they can call witnesses but I fear the GOP senators will capitulate and definitely not call Schiff. He is the majority member on the house intelligence committee. It will never happen. Also pelosi has said that they reserve the right to call additional witnesses in Congress. If you think that Schiff and Nadler are done. Your wrong if the Senate is able to subpoena Bolton they will call him in the Schiff's committee. Then when or if he doesn't show they will say see! Cover up!



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 01:09 AM
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a reply to: Meniscus

I feel there is something more significant here. That there are enough Republicans that are involved in the same kind of scams that by blowing up this money laundering it will blow up theirs too.



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 01:09 AM
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There won't be any further investigations nor new witnesses simply because it is not the job of the Senate to determine if impeachment is necessary.
a reply to: DBCowboy

You sure about that? I think that was what Mconnell was hoping for, but he may not get it.


Collins is leading an effort among some Republicans, including Sens. Mitt Romney of Utah and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, to ensure the ground rules include plans to eventually consider voting to call witnesses.

“My position is that there should be a vote on whether or not witnesses should be called,” Collins said.


Witnesses don't determine if impeachment is necessary. They do determine if the accused, or impeached, is worthy of removal.



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 01:11 AM
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Harry moving to Canada had more air time today than the impeachment of a US president.

Feel that Burn....
a reply to: matafuchs

Impeachment isn't a prime time television show.

Nor a reality show.

It's real, actual life. Zero airtime is needed.



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 01:13 AM
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a reply to: ErEhWoN
Tell that to Schiff when he postponed the vote until the next day cause he wanted it to happen at 10am so the media could cover it all day.



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 01:16 AM
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The US needs to redeem itself and it should by bringing up all of the swamp during this trial. All of them. Let them have to answer questions. Let the world see that they are bs.
a reply to: matafuchs

From the news article....


Trump suggested over the weekend he might prefer simply dismissing the charges rather than giving legitimacy to charges from the House, which he considers a “hoax.”


That the president considers a legitimate act of congress a 'hoax' should be a sign.



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 01:17 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ErEhWoN

There was always going to be a trial, because to dismiss it out of hand would give ammunition to the democrats where they could just say that it was partisan on the side of the republicans.

They'll hold the trial, look at the evidence provided by the democrats, then vote on it.

There won't be any further investigations nor new witnesses simply because it is not the job of the Senate to determine if impeachment is necessary.

That was the job of the House and their actions have already concluded that impeachment was necessary.

The only job of the Senate is to now determine if President Trump is to be ousted from office for the crimes determined by the House.


Exactly. if the Reps dont at least appear to have a trial it i s just good for the democrat party.



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 01:21 AM
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The only Senator mentioned is Susan Collins
a reply to: Gothmog


From the article...


“I think our members, generally are not interested in the motion to dismiss. They think both sides need to be heard,” said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., who is part of GOP leadership.



Collins is leading an effort among some Republicans,including Sens. Mitt Romney of Utah and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, to ensure the ground rules include plans to eventually consider voting to call witnesses.




As far as the rest , did you even read the article ?


Did you?



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 01:23 AM
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a reply to: Meniscus

Apparently Adam Schiff talked to John Bolton by phone, and didn't like what he heard. Schiff has changed his mind about wanting to subpoena him to appear before the House.

Source: dailycaller.com...

We'll see if Bolton is still on the Senate Democrats witness wish-list.



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 01:24 AM
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Also, its "Bern", "FEEL THE BERN!", not literally "Burn", jesus I know you people can't meme, but you couldn't even get your own Berni meme right 😒🙄
a reply to: Arnie123

Not my meme.

I wrote what I ment.

Feel the BURN. Not Bern, like Bernie. BURN, like fire. Like a chemical reaction.



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 01:26 AM
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Call all witnesses up - ESPECIALLY the ones Schiff didn't want questioned.
Question Schiff
Question Biden
Question Burisma
Question Eric Ciamella
.. to start!

Once the Bidens corruption comes out
Question Kerry's son
Question Pelosi's son
a reply to: Agit8dChop

Where any of those people on the phone when Trump attempted to bribe the president of the Ukraine?

If so, hell yeah, question them.



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 01:32 AM
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originally posted by: ErEhWoN



The US needs to redeem itself and it should by bringing up all of the swamp during this trial. All of them. Let them have to answer questions. Let the world see that they are bs.
a reply to: matafuchs

From the news article....


Trump suggested over the weekend he might prefer simply dismissing the charges rather than giving legitimacy to charges from the House, which he considers a “hoax.”


That the president considers a legitimate act of congress a 'hoax' should be a sign.


Legitimate act?
The first article is "abuse of power" pretty vague for "high crimes and misdemeanors "
The second "Obstruction of congress"

The second is farcical on its face. Saying that using executive privilege is an impeachable offense? He is asking for a determination from the judicial branch. That is exactly what is supposed to happen when the executive branch and legislative branch disagree.



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 01:34 AM
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You really want an old socialist? That is the best you can do?
a reply to: Xtrozero

YES!!!

A change from the same ole same ole. I didn't vote for Trump, but I was hopeful he would upend the system like everyone said he would.

Then he filled his cabinet with Goldman-sachs wall street insiders. MORE OF THE SAME!!!

We need a real change, for the PEOPLE. Not corporations. Let them leave if they don't like it. Every billionaire that leaves creates a space for a thousand millionaires!

Think of the opportunity!



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 01:39 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

The testimony in the scif was cherry picked by Schiff to be the most damning to Trump. I don't like Bolton. But basically he doesn't want to be the one to defy the president and doesn't want to ruin executive privilege. So if Trump excerts executive privilege over a subpoena he will wait until the court outcome.



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 01:40 AM
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a reply to: ErEhWoN

The "Abuse of Power" Impeachment article is based on President Trump pressuring Ukraine to Investigate Joe/Hunter Biden. Holding on to the military aid money was the leverage President Trump utilized as "pressure".

If Joe and/or Hunter were involved in Ukraine corruption, that would demonstrate President Trump was on-target when asking for President Zelensky's assistance.

If Whistle-blower Ciaramella, Schiff, Vindman, and Intel Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson conspired to drump-up a false complaint, thereby igniting the Impeachment process, that needs to be revealed. Calling each of them as witnesses is important if a HOAX is to be proven. (Congressional Republicans are already investigating ICIG Atkinson for alleged improprieties with the Whistle-blower saga.)



posted on Jan, 14 2020 @ 01:43 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Fine call all those witnesses. But to act like its abuse of power for the president to ask for an investigation is bs.




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