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originally posted by: glend
a reply to: cooperton
I like your thinking cooperton. But at a certain level even knowing can obstruct. You just need the faith to jump into the abyss of spirituality, come what may. Akin to surrending yout life, at every level, to God.
originally posted by: LoneBird
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: LoneBird
a reply to: sapien82
Without grace from the Holy Father and Holy Son, I would be the most tormented man on earth.
Prayer and belief 100% work.
That says more about you than anything else. An addiction is an addiction however you dress it up.
It is not an addiction, it is a personal relationship.
A personal relationship that becomes stronger when one chooses to overcome the addictions of this world in order to have a closer relationship with the heavenly Father.
originally posted by: Bloodworth
I would say the opposite....today there are more people who mock religion as a fairy tale.
originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: LoneBird
how can it get closer , a relationship is a joint effort
seems to me you are doing all the work yourself by believing it to be reality.
originally posted by: sapien82
originally posted by: Bloodworth
I would say the opposite....today there are more people who mock religion as a fairy tale.
there are so many fairy tales to choose from which is correct ?
shall I go with my the fairy tale of my own country that we are the descendants of the Daoine Síth
or with christs version ?
or with the mayan , or hopi indian
or egyptian ?
or Sumerian ?
why is christ the right one ?
when all of the things christ taught were already taught by previous religions?
as far as we know there is nothing new under the sun with regards to religions gods and deities
you dont need religion in order to be spiritual , as i've said simply standing and looking at nature you can see that connection.
Even science explains we are all connected life is one giant chemical reaction we are all apart of the same system no disconnect
originally posted by: Bloodworth
That's within yourself, just be humble and respect the higher power.
And like most ,look to the sky.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: LoneBird
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: LoneBird
a reply to: sapien82
Without grace from the Holy Father and Holy Son, I would be the most tormented man on earth.
Prayer and belief 100% work.
That says more about you than anything else. An addiction is an addiction however you dress it up.
It is not an addiction, it is a personal relationship.
A personal relationship that becomes stronger when one chooses to overcome the addictions of this world in order to have a closer relationship with the heavenly Father.
Having a personal relationship with a creature who only exists in your mind is called a delusion. Even if it's healthier than narcotics. And by healthier I mean not punishable by law.
originally posted by: gosseyn
a reply to: LoneBird
you tell yourself so many stories, "god is perfect", "i am far from perfect", "I am a fallen one", "the devil, dark forces", etc... It's astonishing to see that you don't realize it.
The eye with which I see God is the same with which God sees me. My eye and God's eye is one eye, and one sight, and one knowledge, and one love.
Meister Eckhart
originally posted by: glend
a reply to: cooperton
I will look Kierkegaard up, he sounds fascinating. Another historic figure that I found very enlightening is Meister Eckhart. The ramifications of his phrase below took my breath away. It explains why hindu's are fascinated by the third eye. Our very seat of conciousness is that of God. So God doesn't just await us. he is aready here. But many cannot hear him because the constant chatter from our ego-construct is deafening (thus reason for prayer/meditation).
"The eye with which I see God is the same with which God sees me. My eye and God's eye is one eye, and one sight, and one knowledge, and one love. "
Meister Eckhart
originally posted by: cooperton
originally posted by: Bloodworth
That's within yourself, just be humble and respect the higher power.
And like most ,look to the sky.
If we look to the sky for God, then birds would come before us. Instead we could realize that we ourselves are the embodiment of this original Creator Spirit. This is proven by the fact we are the ideal biological vessel for creation - perfect for such a Creative Spirit to inhabit.
This may seemingly oppose your ideas of humility, but what if it is a matter of fact that we are a child of the Most High God?