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originally posted by: JoseGarcia
a reply to: Lysergic
Sorry. I don't understand your reply.
originally posted by: Atsbhct
a reply to: booyakasha
That doesn't really make sense. You might as well say a scientist cant follow a particular religion because if they believe in Jesus being the son of god, and all other faith's are wrong, then they're closed minded about the truth of other religions.
Science and religion dont mix well because science is about quantifiable data, and religion is about a personal faith. They can both exist, but they're still separate.
Throw in exorcism, angels, demons, saints, miracles, prophecy and I really do wonder at the state of humanity en masse. It sometimes feels as if this is nothing more than an open air asylum.
"Evolution" mixes two things together, one real, one imaginary. People are shown the real part, which makes them ready to believe the imaginary part. That is how the idea of biological evolution has spread since 1859.
CMI-New Zealand’s Shaun Doyle responds:
We can certainly offer some names: John Sanford, Maciej Giertych, CMI’s Robert Carter, James S. Allan, Matti Leisola, and Georgia Purdom are several PhD geneticists who have published in secular peer-reviewed journals and think DNA is a code that is best explained by a designer. In fact, they are all biblical creationists. I would recommend to you Dr Sanford’s book Genetic Entropy, and our book Evolution’s Achilles’ Heels, which may be of particular benefit to your son. Another book that may be beneficial to him, which is freely available online, but is not on our website, is Biological Information: New Perspectives.1 We certainly wouldn’t endorse all the perspectives offered in this book, but it provides some good information on population genetics and biological information that your son may find useful.
But this debate isn’t really about names; it’s about arguments. More specifically, it’s about the fact that mainstream science operates with a methodology that only accepts attempts to describe the origin of anything biological in terms of natural causes (physics and chemistry). For more information, please see Historical science and miracles. This is why he will not find articles in the secular biological literature arguing openly for a divine designer (see Creationism, Science and Peer Review for more information). If he doesn’t understand the different assumptions at play in this debate, and how they can constrain the interpretations of the evidence an investigator is willing to entertain, then he will fall quite easily for fallacious evolutionary arguments, such as equivocation. Why? Because of how they tend to construct their case.
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After having chided the theologian for his reliance on myth and miracle, science found itself in the unenviable position of having to create a mythology of its own: namely, the assumption that what, after long effort could not be proved to take place today, had, in truth, taken place in the primeval past.
~ Loren Eiseley (American anthropologist, educator and natural science writer)
originally posted by: JBIZZ
Depends what your God is. If your God is big government, then yes religion can be seen as a mental illness. Throughout history, atheist government leaders have led to 93% of wars & death by wars.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
Let's say that in utter secrecy and without any preparation, you are invited to a private worship session in a secluded location where a rapist/murderer/terrorist whose crimes you have seen firsthand is being held captive and your pastor hands you a gun. He says that God has chosen this little club, including your neighbors and friends, to deliver justice to filthy animals like this guy around the country, and now you're being recruited. No one will ever know anything except that you did what any patriotic servant of the lord would do. Send him to Jesus, he says. What do you do?
originally posted by: gosseyn
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
The belief in you as a separate thing, is a mental illness.
The mind is full of you and time.
Mind is simply storytelling.
When there is no mind.... life is so simple.... it is just what actually is.
The mind does not see or hear.
Do you believe in a personal god that watches and listens ?
Both a testing ground/training center and a mental asylum from my point of view. If it was meant to be high awareness place where majority would be in high body bliss mode, then the souls that are connected thru entanglement to human bodies would be different.
originally posted by: Raggedyman
And all those atheists who killed millions and millions based on a political/philosophy, mentally ill?
Can’t just say believers when non believers do the same thing