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Iran accused of shooting down Ukranian flight - US claims it has evidence

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posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Nucleardoom

When looking at the video of it crashing, it's obvious the plane did not suffer engine failure without some "help". Missile or Bomb onboard.
I hope the countries with citizens onboard will not look to America to punish Iran over this.


Let us hope.




posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: RexKramerPRT
a reply to: Freeborn

Itchy trigger finger by some nervous operator guarding Tehran airspace a few hours after they attacked the US and sees something unexpected on his radar. Hits fire before verifying.

Throw in some piss poor communication

I'm not understanding why there was ANY planes taking off or landing.



posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 11:34 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
Before the day is out, the MSM will be blaming President Trump.

Example: "If Trump had not assassinated the esteemed Iran General Soleimani, Iran would not have been retaliating against us that night!"


Yet that is not an untrue statement.



posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: vonclod

Another question for Iranian authorities.



posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 11:37 AM
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It was a horrible accident. Protocols were not followed. Writing was on the wall though with the human stampede that killed 58 people. It's what they do in the Middle East. High levels of Incompetence and ignorance over there.



posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: RexKramerPRT
a reply to: vonclod

Another question for Iranian authorities.

The Iranians, and the airline.

Like I said, stupid games, stupid prizes..this baby belongs to Iran and the US..imo



posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: RexKramerPRT

originally posted by: carewemust
Before the day is out, the MSM will be blaming President Trump.

Example: "If Trump had not assassinated the esteemed Iran General Soleimani, Iran would not have been retaliating against us that night!"


Yet that is not an untrue statement.


MSM will once again try to get us into War with Iran.

"Trumps guilt should make him militarily retaliate against Iran immediately!"

The media is as predictable as the Sunrise.
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posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 11:53 AM
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There was discussion of how Iran's 80 year old leader has run out of gas, and is not really in control. Soleimani wielded more power for day-to-day operations than Khomeini. After Soleimani as murdered, Iran's military was like a loose canon on the deck.
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posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
Why would Iran have deliberately shot this plane down?

I'm not saying they did or didn't, just wondering why?


I doubt they would, or at least intentionally down a commercial airliner. Perhaps they thought it was a foreign threat/US jet.

Because it makes no sense, unless they plan to blame the US down the road (and not releasing the flight data to the west).



posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Not surprised, I’m just wondering how the left will turn this around to defend Iran.


Who started it?



posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Not surprised, I’m just wondering how the left will turn this around to defend Iran.


Who started it?



Iran



posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 12:18 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Not surprised, I’m just wondering how the left will turn this around to defend Iran.


Who started it?



Iran when they attacked our embassy. I hope you're not overlooking that in your quest to think Trump had Salami killed for craps and giggles.



posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 12:28 PM
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arent some iranian missile defenses automated? like no humans directly controlling them? that would lead credence to the accidental aspect as im sure iran did not wanna shoot down a ukranian plane for the hell of it ?



posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Not surprised, I’m just wondering how the left will turn this around to defend Iran.


Who started it?



Iran when they attacked our embassy. I hope you're not overlooking that in your quest to think Trump had Salami killed for craps and giggles.


I'm not making excuses for anyone.

You seem to be.



posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 12:34 PM
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there's been a very strong reaction to this news in the gold and bond market, I have a feeling this issue isn't resolved



posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 01:10 PM
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So not only did they fail with the attack on the bases they managed to accidentally shot down a passenger plane ?

Wow they look bad .



posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 01:11 PM
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Since a NO FLY order was issued, maybe they thought that any plane flying after that would be military.
IDK, just a theory.
But then again, NO FLY means NO FLY for any planes.
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posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 01:12 PM
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News now reporting Iran shot it down with a SA-15 missile.



posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018

You havd to go back to the 50's when the U.S overthrew the Iranian president that the Iranian people loved, Then replaced him with a brutal dictator. Later overthrown by the Iranian people. Since then there has been bad blood between the Countries.



posted on Jan, 9 2020 @ 01:29 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe
News now reporting Iran shot it down with a SA-15 missile.


That missile was sold to them by Russia wasn't it?




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