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originally posted by: carewemust
Wednesday, January 8, 2020
Here are a few recent examples that will suffice to get the point across. If you want to add more, you're welcome to do so.
This morning, President Trump delivered a speech, stating that he wants Iran to prosper, and enter constructive peace talks with the U.S. and NATO.
CNN is Owned and Operated by Democrats. Here is that TV Network's NEGATIVE Response:
https***://www.cnn.com/2020/01/08/opinions/trump-speech-iran-tactic-ghitis/index.html (Broke URL on purpose to limit click-throughs)
(CNN)President Donald Trump gave a speech on Wednesday that combined attenuated versions of his standard repertoire: boasts, threats and digs against former President Barack Obama. Even before he said "Good morning," he declared, that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon under his watch. Then he added, "the American people should be extremely grateful and happy."
Perhaps he meant grateful to him, even as he noted that no Americans were killed when Iran fired missiles into a US base in Iraq.
But it's too soon for Trump to declare victory in this episode, much less on his overall Iran strategy.
This is far from over, and there's a long way to go before the US killing of Iranian Gen. Qasem Soleimani, and its aftermath, turn into a true victory for the United States -- before it saves lives, as Trump has argued it did; helps stabilize the Middle East; and allows American troops to leave the region without creating a vacuum that Iran and Russia will happily fill.
Even though President Trump wants PEACE with IRAN, an ANGRY Democrat, U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, is introducing a resolution tomorrow that will limit President Trump's ability to strike Iran militarily. Democrats are ANGRY, because the President killed an Iranian Terrorist-General last week, after he had killed hundreds, and maimed thousands of U.S. Troops and Civilians, using a variety of explosive devices.
Democrat-Owned NBC: www.nbcnews.com...
Out of FEAR, several Democrat Congressmen recently sent a formal letter to U.S. Attorney William Barr and Federal Prosecutor John Durham, asking for their resignations. Barr and Durham are investigating possible past/present corruption at the highest levels of the DOJ/FBI/StateDept/CIA.
What Are They Afraid Of?: ctmirror.org...
Democrats in charge of the nations largest cities are historically UNCARING. These cities have the highest per-capita crime rates, and poverty levels that are twice the national average. UnCaring Democrats have been in charge for decades, with little to no improvement of conditions. In the California Democrat strongholds of San Francisco and Los Angeles, poverty and homelessness have actually worsened over the past 10 years.
Democrat City Leaders' Apathy: amac.us...
Even if you look back at when Democrat Barack Obama was President, DEMOCRAT VOTERS were Negative, Angry, Fearful, and UnCaring...sometimes all of those emotions occurred simultaneously. The self-destructive result?
March 2016 NPR: www.npr.org...
Every president sees his party lose hundreds of positions — it's the price a party holding the White House often pays — but no president has come close to Obama.
During Obama's eight years in office, the Democrats have lost more House, Senate, state legislative and governors seats than under any other president.
When Obama took office, there were 60 Democratic senators; now there are 46. The number of House seats held by Democrats has shrunk from 257 to 188.
There are now nine fewer Democratic governors than in 2009. Democrats currently hold fewer elected offices nationwide than at any time since the 1920s.
If any of you in ATS-land have psychiatric training, or education, can you explain WHY most Democrats in the United States are always Negative, or Angry, or Fearful, or Uncaring, or any combination thereof? Thank-you in advance.
-CareWeMust
originally posted by: PartyCow
a reply to: carewemust
I respect these posters points of views, cwm. Do you or any poster care to respond? I am genuinely eager to read them. Thanks!
1947boomer says,
Well, since you asked....
First of all, I am not a Democrat; I consider myself an independent. Sometimes I vote for Republicans, sometimes I vote for Democrats, sometimes I vote for none of the above. I hold some views that would be considered liberal and some views that would be considered conservative.
Second, my first University degree was in Psychology; my areas of interest were cognitive and social development theory and psychotherapy. At one point I thought I was going to be a professional psychotherapist, but then I changed course entirely and went in to Physics and Engineering.
Your question contains the premise that some Democrats are ALWAYS angry, negative, fearful or uncaring. That premise is, for all practical purposes, false. Nobody is ALWAYS those things, but everybody exhibits those characteristics at some times in their lives, because they are normal human emotions. Republicans exhibit exactly those same emotions, but they usually show them for different issues and in different directions. Take the issue of immigration, for example. Trump supporters seem to exhibit a lot of fear of Mexican murderers and rapists. (Those were pretty much the first words out of Trump's mouth when he descended his golden escalator in 2015 and announced he was running for President. He was clearly trying to connect with that fear and harness it for his political ambitions. The fact that it worked is pretty good evidence for the widespread existence of the fear in his target audience.) They appear to perceive certain immigrants (particularly ones from sh##hole countries) as a threat to their way of life. The natural reaction of fear is anger at the object that causes the fear, which basically represents a desire to get rid of the source of the fear, one way or another. Once an individual is in a state of fear and anger with regard to some object, it is pretty much axiomatic that that individual will not be seen as "caring" with regard to the welfare of that object (even if that object is another human). Quite the contrary; the motivation will be to exclude, destroy, or otherwise eliminate the perceived threat.
Many Democrats, on the other hand, view diversity within their community as a positive element and enjoy being around people with different languages, foods, dress, and religions. When an individual campaigns on a platform of aggressively reducing or eliminating that diversity, and then gets into power and begins implementing that policy, the individuals who value that diversity perceive a threat to their desired way of life. So naturally, they get angry at the perceived source of that threat and become "uncaring" with regard to that source.
The fact that you see the issue as one sided seems to me to be a pretty clear case of cognitive bias. In particular, it looks to me like you seem to be displaying both confirmation bias and affinity bias. Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for or interpret information in a way that confirms your preconceptions and to discredit information that does not support your views. Affinity bias is the tendency to be biased toward people like yourself. These biases are everywhere you look on this site.
You believe that some Democrats are ALWAYS angry probably because you never look for any evidence that would contradict that belief.
Game over man a reply to: carewemust
Bravo for your courage posting this thread in a Democratic/Liberal forum. Political Mud-Pit on Abovetopsecret.com has always had a long standing consistency of being evenly balance between both political parties ideas and opinions. Good work.
So the title of the thread, "WHY are Democrats Always Negative or Angry or Fearful or Simply UnCaring?"
According to Google Americans are the following democrats 31%, republicans 24%, and the rest are independents. The US population is 327 million, granted people can have political opinions before voting age so you just described over 100 million people as negative, angry, fearful, and/or uncaring. So who cares about anyone on Abovetopsecret.com suffering from depression because you just described many forum visitors and forum members as negative, angry, fearful and uncaring, and they are ALWAYS like that, and you've never met them. Do you know any of the people you just described besides people you see on TV or the internet?
Do you think forum visitors and forum members are talking heads on CNN, MSNBC, etc?
Speaking of mainstream left wing media, your thread title implying you will talk about Democrats, not anyone specific, just Democrats as a whole, when you open up the thread, it's simply about "CNN said this about Trump."
This thread is another "CNN vs Trump" thread in the Political Mud-Pit. Why did you not name your thread "CNN said this about Trump" ? Anyone with a TV or WIFI knows CNN talks about Trump all the time. Who cares.
Back to describing over 100 million people who all have what kind of jobs? Jobs where people are negative people, angry people, fearful people, and uncaring people? So 1/3rd of all working people are all those things you said? Where is your proof? I'd like to see some proof 1/3 of all professional people are what you said. But the catch is, you didn't even talk about over 100 million Americans, you ONLY talked about "CNN and Trump." Who cares about "CNN and Trump?"
If over 100 million Americans are negative, angry, fearful, and uncaring, then what are the other 78 million (I'm assuming Republicans are the opposite, whom you didn't even describe their qualities) doing to be positive, happy, brave, and caring to the country or specifically their states and counties they reside in?
Let's just pick caring, and let's just focus on red states because I want to read specifics provided by you and other forum members. What are Republicans doing in their red states to care for the people in regards to homelessness, poverty, mental health, and physical health in their red states? Blame shifting is not an answer, linking to a right wing news site is not an answer, but linking to an actual website is an answer. What are the Republican politicians doing to help people in their states to care for them in 2020, 2021, 2022 etc? What are they actually doing? Is it working? How are things currently? If you don't know thats fine too. After all this website is just for fun.
edit on 9-1-2020 by game over man because: (no reason given)
So you are complaining because pelosi wants trump to follow our laws of war declaration? A responsibility that falls on Congress?
originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical
originally posted by: carewemust
Wednesday, January 8, 2020
Here are a few recent examples that will suffice to get the point across. If you want to add more, you're welcome to do so.
This morning, President Trump delivered a speech, stating that he wants Iran to prosper, and enter constructive peace talks with the U.S. and NATO.
CNN is Owned and Operated by Democrats. Here is that TV Network's NEGATIVE Response:
https***://www.cnn.com/2020/01/08/opinions/trump-speech-iran-tactic-ghitis/index.html (Broke URL on purpose to limit click-throughs)
(CNN)President Donald Trump gave a speech on Wednesday that combined attenuated versions of his standard repertoire: boasts, threats and digs against former President Barack Obama. Even before he said "Good morning," he declared, that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon under his watch. Then he added, "the American people should be extremely grateful and happy."
Perhaps he meant grateful to him, even as he noted that no Americans were killed when Iran fired missiles into a US base in Iraq.
But it's too soon for Trump to declare victory in this episode, much less on his overall Iran strategy.
This is far from over, and there's a long way to go before the US killing of Iranian Gen. Qasem Soleimani, and its aftermath, turn into a true victory for the United States -- before it saves lives, as Trump has argued it did; helps stabilize the Middle East; and allows American troops to leave the region without creating a vacuum that Iran and Russia will happily fill.
Even though President Trump wants PEACE with IRAN, an ANGRY Democrat, U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, is introducing a resolution tomorrow that will limit President Trump's ability to strike Iran militarily. Democrats are ANGRY, because the President killed an Iranian Terrorist-General last week, after he had killed hundreds, and maimed thousands of U.S. Troops and Civilians, using a variety of explosive devices.
Democrat-Owned NBC: www.nbcnews.com...
Out of FEAR, several Democrat Congressmen recently sent a formal letter to U.S. Attorney William Barr and Federal Prosecutor John Durham, asking for their resignations. Barr and Durham are investigating possible past/present corruption at the highest levels of the DOJ/FBI/StateDept/CIA.
What Are They Afraid Of?: ctmirror.org...
Democrats in charge of the nations largest cities are historically UNCARING. These cities have the highest per-capita crime rates, and poverty levels that are twice the national average. UnCaring Democrats have been in charge for decades, with little to no improvement of conditions. In the California Democrat strongholds of San Francisco and Los Angeles, poverty and homelessness have actually worsened over the past 10 years.
Democrat City Leaders' Apathy: amac.us...
Even if you look back at when Democrat Barack Obama was President, DEMOCRAT VOTERS were Negative, Angry, Fearful, and UnCaring...sometimes all of those emotions occurred simultaneously. The self-destructive result?
March 2016 NPR: www.npr.org...
Every president sees his party lose hundreds of positions — it's the price a party holding the White House often pays — but no president has come close to Obama.
During Obama's eight years in office, the Democrats have lost more House, Senate, state legislative and governors seats than under any other president.
When Obama took office, there were 60 Democratic senators; now there are 46. The number of House seats held by Democrats has shrunk from 257 to 188.
There are now nine fewer Democratic governors than in 2009. Democrats currently hold fewer elected offices nationwide than at any time since the 1920s.
If any of you in ATS-land have psychiatric training, or education, can you explain WHY most Democrats in the United States are always Negative, or Angry, or Fearful, or Uncaring, or any combination thereof? Thank-you in advance.
-CareWeMust
So you are complaining because pelosi wants trump to follow our laws of war declaration? A responsibility that falls on Congress?
You people are ridiculous and have zero ability to discern right from wrong.
Also, there are now more Democratic governors than when Trump took office. There are more democratic members of the House than when he took office. feel free to stay in your way back machine and ignore the present.
originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical
So you are complaining because pelosi wants trump to follow our laws of war declaration? A responsibility that falls on Congress?
You people are ridiculous and have zero ability to discern right from wrong.
Also, there are now more Democratic governors than when Trump took office. There are more democratic members of the House than when he took office. feel free to stay in your way back machine and ignore the present.
originally posted by: TheRedneck
That is also why I like Habitat for Humanity so much. It's hard to grab 90% of someone's contribution when that contribution is labor. They do accept monetary contributions, but their major push is on getting homes to the needy and deserving, not in making sure their big wigs have a steady income.
TheRedneck
originally posted by: TheRedneck
Congress has no powers during war. Congress has two powers:
- Declare war (which gives the President the authority to formulate and execute strikes without provocation), and
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
I will not answer the OP in regards to all liberals, but rather two very devout liberals I have known for many many years.
In short, they are afraid - of everything. At the top of that list is the fear of not being accepted. These two very different people, except for their political views, are both desperately seeking affirmation from anything or any one. I have watched them at social gatherings. They test the waters first making some watered-down liberal statements. Immediately their eyes start darting around looking form some form of positive reinforcement. If they fail to find it, they simply stop the liberal rhetoric. If they do find it, they glue themselves to that person and together they start looking for more of their own. As their numbers increase so does the acidity of their comments along with the volume. Given great enough numbers they turn rabid, verbally assaulting people until they agree with them or leave. When asked, they say they act that way because that is how conservatives treat them. I pointed out that before they found their little band of like-minded minions no one was verbally attacking them and the response is always the same: "Republicans are cowards. They don't have the balls to do what we do." "So, you were lying when you said republicans were doing it to you first?" "# you - fascist!"
That sums it up for me. Liberals are lying cowardly children desperately seeking any form of affirmation. Giving it to them is only enabling their delusions.
originally posted by: TheRedneck
Jimmy Carter deserves a statue... lousy President, but damn, what a human being!
TheRedneck