Prince Harry and Prince Andrew....hmmm

a reply to: Vasa Croe

That's an awful lot of conjecture there...

Are none of you marrried? The wife ALWAYS goes home eventually.

Harry does not want to be just another Royal scrounger living off the publics money. His mother left him millions he will be ok.

originally posted by: 11SK1180
Harry does not want to be just another Royal scrounger living off the publics money. His mother left him millions he will be ok.

He's stepping down from Royalty and moving over to celebrity, he'll be appearing

on *Oprah* and other chat shows, be seen at venues wearing designer clothes

and accessories ..........Do you think he'll be doing it for FREE!

originally posted by: Iscool
a reply to: Vasa Croe

That's an awful lot of conjecture there...

That's also a HUGE role to step away from so something big had to be the catalyst.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: Iscool
a reply to: Vasa Croe

That's also a HUGE role to step away from so something big had to be the catalyst.

It's really not. He's a minor royal, and as William's heirs mature and eventually have their own kids, Harry's role as even a minor royal will become ever smaller. The love of the people was the best thing Harry had going for him, and he's squandered that now with his very disrespectful treatment of his grandmother and family, but in such an oh-so-shady way. And that's not even considering the naked greed...

The catalyst was his narcissistic wife and their avarice. Right out of the Democrat playbook, complements of Sara Latham. And I'm betting their weapon of choice is blackmail. Perhaps withholding their son, Archie. Perhaps info on Andrew. Perhaps the rumored affair Prince William had. Perhaps something else entirely.

a reply to: Boadicea

And so it continues tomorrows headlines.........


Meghan flees to Canada where she left baby Archie with the nanny and leaves Harry

to deal with fallout from 'abdication' crisis after spending just three days in UK

following seven-week holiday.


Seems like they were not staying anyway!!!

originally posted by: eletheia
a reply to: Boadicea

And so it continues tomorrows headlines.........

Meghan flees to Canada where she left baby Archie with the nanny and leaves Harry...

What an ultimatum for Harry, eh? "I'm going back to Canada and our baby... you can stay here with your family or you can come to Canada and be with your baby. What's it gonna be, Harry???"

...to deal with fallout from 'abdication' crisis...

I pity Harry right now...

...after spending just three days in UK following seven-week holiday.

Seems like they were not staying anyway!!!

She certainly wasn't staying -- and knew it! This is just all so conniving and shady on their part. It should not have happened this way, and didn't have to happen this way. It was intended to hurt the Queen and the Royal Family. The publicity is for leverage on their part, and it's not even clever, much less subtle.

There is massive conjecture right now ... almost as if someone is trying to control the future narrative.

Getting away from the royals before the whole house of Windsor falls in a heap.

It is going to be interesting.

P

a reply to: Boadicea

Interesting update?.......

Their new official website was set up in secret last March.
They quietly registered the domain sussexroyal.com and used a fashionable
creative agency based in Canada to build it. Buckingham Palace and
the Queen knew nothing about it until the couple launched it on
Wednesday evening.

Public records show that the domain name is 300 days old and is
registered onservers based in Arizona.

Rather than using a British company to build their web site the couple used a
small company in Megans former home town of Toronto. The company
has a long standing relationship with Megan,as it did work for her lifestyle
blog 'TheTig' before it was closed down when she and Harry became serious,

Kevin Kelley,a driving instructor said he had used @SussexRoyal on social media
for three years until instagram changed his user name to allow Harry and Megan
to use it.

If ^^^that^^^^ wasn't premeditated I'll eat my hat!

And what about the Canadian influence?

a reply to: eletheia

March... so almost a year ago. Shady shady shady!

I can't help but wonder how much of this drama is just Meghan, and not Harry. I just get this feeling that she's gaslighting him royally (pardon the pun) and also pushing/escalating situations beyond his knowledge and consent. I saw reported this morning that Harry told his aides that he needed to do this for his mental health... I'd like to blow it off as hype, but I'm not so sure. I can certainly understand if Harry needed to "step back" from royal duties for his mental health, but doing it like this surely wasn't necessary for his mental health. Unless she's pushing all Harry's buttons just to turn him against his family?

I just saw this -- haven't read it yet though:

Twelve steps to Megxit: How Meghan and Harry felt apart from the Firm... from a £56K engagement dress to stealing Princess Eugenie's thunder and snubbing Christmas at Sandringham

The press is certainly not holding back. Maybe a little for Harry, but not Meghan. This may just be the beginning, depending on the deal ultimately made with the Queen, and I guess Parliament too. Not to mention Canada and Trudeau, who hasn't exactly welcomed them with open arms! I don't blame him. Canada would have to pay for their security.

They really are the Duke and Duchess of Difficult -- wherever they go!

a reply to: Vasa Croe

I posted this before in another thread.

Many rumors and associations in the royal family tied to pedophilia . So I find the timing very interesting.
Harry had a baby not to long and now he wants out. Perhaps he and/or Meghan doesn't want to put their new child in harms way?

a reply to: eletheia

Gee... why am I not surprised???

Barack and Michelle Obama are advising Meghan and Harry on their new life outside the Royal Family... with Duchess set to copy their use of 'star power' to promote 'humanistic projects'

The highlights (or lowlights -- depending on how one wants to look at it):

Barack and Michelle Obama have advised the Sussexes on their plans for a new life outside the Royal Family.

Harry and Meghan have become close friends with the former US president and his lawyer wife and turned to them for help.

Sources confirmed Harry and Meghan had discussed their plans with the former US president and his wife and wanted to mimic the way they had managed to build a successful, but dignified, life for themselves after the White House. A source said: ‘They have found huge commercial success without actually looking like they are getting their hands dirty, to put it bluntly, and retaining their popularity.

‘In fact it is fair to say that their star has soared since leaving the White House, particularly Michelle’s, and this is something Meghan admires very, very much.’

I just can't. My mind is spinning with (conspiracy) possibilities right now.

Just oh my.

originally posted by: Boadicea

Barack and Michelle Obama are advising Meghan and Harry on their new life outside the Royal Family... with Duchess set to copy their use of 'star power' to promote 'humanistic projects'
The highlights (or lowlights -- depending on how one wants to look at it):

Barack and Michelle Obama have advised the Sussexes on their plans for a new life outside the Royal Family.
Harry and Meghan have become close friends with the former US president and his lawyer wife and turned to them for help.

And there's more ....... they are modelling themselves on George and Amal Clooney

Oprah has programmes and plans for them too. I wonder how it will pan out if they

no longer have their titles? and are just plain Mr and Mrs?

Sources confirmed Harry and Meghan had discussed their plans with the former US president and his wife and wanted to mimic the way they had managed to build a successful, but dignified, life for themselves after the White House. A source said: ‘They have found huge commercial success without actually looking like they are getting their hands dirty, to put it bluntly, and retaining their popularity.
‘In fact it is fair to say that their star has soared since leaving the White House, particularly Michelle’s, and this is something Meghan admires very, very much.’

I'm a technophobe, so I might not have this quite right (the making of money on

web sights) but the endorsements lined up by the company handling their web

sight is already enormous and include 'mary jane' products!


I find her attitude of being bullied due to her colour rather disengenuous today

I was talking to someone who didn't even realise she was...... and the only

person I have heard refer to her colour is herself, and now we are getting the

drip, drip, drip, of petulance and entitlement and the poor us pity party in an

effort to get their own way. They aren't exactly short of a bob or two, but yet

they intend to sell their souls and integrity on the altar of commercialism......

How much money is enough money you can't take it with you

a reply to: eletheia

You're right -- the only ones crying about her race and racism are her and Harry.

But this is the playbook they are playing from. The Democratic playbook. Run by Sara Latham, who formerly worked for Hillary, Obama and the DNC. Working for Buckingham Palace now, she's also working for Prince Andrew. Seems there may be some connection with Esptein as well.

No doubt it was Sara who set Harry and Meghan up with the Obamas. They've also been planning this for some time, as we know, so they apparently decided to get the "racism!" whining out there well ahead of time. (Crying "racism!" sure worked for Obama, eh?)

Ya know, as this plays out, I am increasingly worried about Harry. Very worried. Something is very very off here.

ETA: It has begun: Meghan Markle signs a voiceover deal with Disney in return for a donation to an elephant charity in latest hint at her future career plans

I'm sure Disney did make a donation to an elephant charity... AND to the Sussex personal charity. Is this what Harry blew off the Marines for??? Shameful.

originally posted by: Boadicea

Ya know, as this plays out, I am increasingly worried about Harry. Very worried. Something is very very off here.

Funny you should say that I was talking to some friends today and two

of them voiced something I had already thought (but felt maybe I had

been over thinking it) That Harry was looking a shadow of his former self

as if the stuffing had been knocked out of him!!

As a mother I would not have left my young child in another country - which

makes me think it was planned ahead so that if she didn't get her way when

TSHF she would have a legitimate excuse for leaving, which in turn will turn

the screws on Harry.

What ever happened to *stand by your man?*

ETA: It has begun: Meghan Markle signs a voiceover deal with Disney in return for a donation to an elephant charity in latest hint at her future career plans
I'm sure Disney did make a donation to an elephant charity... AND to the Sussex personal charity. Is this what Harry blew off the Marines for??? Shameful.

Wonder what she has in mind for Harry? Simba ?

Was also on this mornings news that there was an offer in to do something

in the vein of Hollywood Wives wonder how her Maj will enjoy watching

that!!

a reply to: eletheia

Wow. Glad I'm not the only one thinking along these lines. And we're in good company:

I'm worried about Prince Harry... I fear something is seriously amiss and he's on a trajectory of self-destruction, writes his biographer PENNY JUNOR

Prince Charles fears Harry is at a 'tipping point' and vows to do everything to help him after a series of 'heartfelt discussions' with his son

Manipulative Meghan knew Harry needed a strong woman in his life after Diana's death and exerted control by capitalising on events that hit his self-esteem, writes psychologist JO HEMMINGS

Also like you, I could never have left my 8-month-old baby either -- not for a weekend away, and certainly not to go overseas. Leaving Archie in Canada makes it pretty clear that 1 -- Meghan was going to use Archie as an excuse to light the fuse and then run like hell, leaving Harry to take the brunt of it all; 2 -- That she is very clearly giving Harry an ultimatum -- his baby or his family; 3 -- That she is and will use Archie as a bargaining chip with the Royal Family.

I think it's telling, however, that Meghan apparently doesn't think that she herself nor their marriage is enough to keep Harry in line. She has to exploit their son for the purpose.

I am also thinking there is something far more sinister to all this. That it may be much bigger than we realize. I don't like the players who are coming together for the Sussexes... Not one bit.

a reply to: eletheia

Uh oh... looks like I have to eat a little crow... maybe...

Michelle & Barack Obama Are 'Not Advising, Not in Contact with' Prince Harry & Meghan Markle: Sources

Reports of Michelle and Barack Obama offering advice to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle over their "step back" from the royal family are "totally false"

The former president and first lady are not advising the couple and have not been in contact with them,” says one source close to the Obamas...

He said/she said I guess... dueling unnamed sources... but I can sure see why the Obamas wouldn't want to be associated with this train wreck... Especially folks thinking this was all their idea!

Totally agree with everything Elethea and Bodicea are saying...something is off...very off...No wonder William asked Harry to wait...if the press are to be believed...and yes...Harry has not looked 'right' since just after Archie arrived

Rainbows
Jane

originally posted by: angelchemuel
Totally agree with everything Elethea and Bodicea are saying...something is off...very off...No wonder William asked Harry to wait...if the press are to be believed...and yes...Harry has not looked 'right' since just after Archie arrived
Rainbows
Jane

I began to search out for some characteristics to get some balance and came

across this, interesting?

The former Suits actress was, for two years, married to Trevor Engelson, a 41 year-old movie producer. Their marriage reportedly ended abruptly and he is currently working on a pilot episode about an ex marrying a royal – but what else do we know about him?
He is currently a film producer and talent manager in Los Angeles after getting his start in the movie industry as a production assistant.
He is perhaps most well known for producing Remember Me, a 2010 tearjerker starring Robert Pattinson and Emilie de Ravin. Meghan Markle had a cameo role in the film, playing a character called Megan.

Her first leg up the ladder of celebrity and fame??

Meghan landed her role in Suits just a few months before they married. However sustaining a long-distance marriage was apparently too difficult for the couple; Ms Markle and Engelson separated after two years.
Ms. Markle returned her wedding and engagement rings to Engelson by registered post after ending their marriage “out of the blue”.
“[Engelson] went from cherishing Meghan to, as one friend observed, ‘Feeling like he was a piece of something stuck to the bottom of her shoe’,”
“Whether she wanted to admit it to herself or not, Meghan, who once said she couldn’t imagine life without Trevor by her side, was now building a new world for herself.”

www.telegraph.co.uk...


Some of that is from a book authored by Andrew Morton who wrote Diana's

biography !!

Seems like she has a short attention span?