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GW goes Insane, cares more for death row "scum" than the victims

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posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 05:57 AM
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WASHINGTON — The Bush administration is asking Texas to conduct new hearings for 51 Mexicans on death row who say they were denied legal help from their consulates in violation of international law.

The International Court of Justice in The Hague last year ruled that the convictions violated the 1963 Vienna Convention by not providing the Mexicans with consular access. In 1969, the Senate ratified the treaty, which requires such access for Americans detained abroad and foreigners arrested in the United States.

The Supreme Court filing is an attempt by the administration to quell international criticism and comes a month before justices were to hear arguments in the case of Texas death row inmate Jose Medellin, who is challenging his conviction and sentence as a due process violation.

Medellin is backed in his appeal by dozens of countries, legal groups and human rights organizations, as well as former American diplomats and the European Union.

The filing by Acting Solicitor General Paul Clement argues that it is President Bush's decision, not the court's, to determine whether the United States should comply with international law. Nevertheless, the administration has chosen to do so in this case, states the Feb. 28 filing, which was circulated Monday by the court.

"Compliance serves to protect the interest of United States citizens abroad, promotes the effective conduct of foreign relations and underscores the United States' commitment in the international community in the rule of law," Clement wrote.

The filing states that Medellin and other Mexican nationals can now seek a fresh review in state court, which will then reconsider their claims in a way that "the president has determined is an appropriate means to fulfill this nation's treaty obligations."

www.chron.com...

The treaty mentioned here does not deal with "illegal" entry into the nations in question. The treaty only deals with 'legal" travel abroad. These animals on death row in Texas are ALL illegals and were convicted based on evidence. This is more "technical" liberal BS............and a waste of tax dollars.




posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 07:10 AM
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There are plenty of places in the world where a tourist can be declared an illegal immigrant just for having the wrong or expired paperwork. If we expect foreign countries to allow us access to the local US embassy when charged with a crime, don't you think we should do the same? You know, leader of the free world and all..



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
There are plenty of places in the world where a tourist can be declared an illegal immigrant just for having the wrong or expired paperwork. If we expect foreign countries to allow us access to the local US embassy when charged with a crime, don't you think we should do the same? You know, leader of the free world and all..


There is a huge difference here between legal travel and illegal immigrants that committ murder, are tried in US courts, found guilty and sentenced. It IS not the same issue..........



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 08:03 AM
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Of course it's the same issue. Once a person is declared an illegal immigrant in the eyes of a court, it doesn't matter how it happened. You're advocating that they have no rights to even contact their own country. Don't we demand the rest of the world gives us access to our citizens accused of crimes? Would you like to see US citizens denied access to consular attorneys?



posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 07:40 PM
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The United States is trying to appease the world that's all.

I don't see us carrying through with conforming to their standards for long though. We are the model in which a civilized world looks to for guidance and not the other way around.

These murdering-illegals will get counsel, but in the long run, they'll have to stay on death-row and await their fate.

I'm just glad that last week's Supreme Court decision don't affect the adult death-row inmates, and hopefully that decision will be overturned!



posted on Oct, 9 2007 @ 09:36 AM
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Here's an update on this case. It needs to be watched closely. The Supreme Court is expected to make a decision Wednesday, October 10th.

www.chron.com...

If the Illegals win, won't it be wonderful for the M-13 members here?
Hey, come to America illegally, commit a crime and then run to the consulate and scream for your rights as a foreign citizen! The Gringos didn't respect your rights! Never mind about the murdered Americans.
If Bush, the Justice Department and the Supreme Court let this travesty stand then you might as well forget about ever saluting the flag again, because it will become a complete sham.
I wonder if I could get away with the same thing if I went to Mexico?



posted on Oct, 10 2007 @ 07:14 PM
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It really intrigues me that this post hasn't got more attention. The potential submission of the Constitution of the United States to foreign rule and codified by our own Supreme Court! This case isn't just about a rape and murder - it's about the potential end of the United States as a sovereign, independent country. Our laws and courts could soon become wholly subject to international law! Doesn't seem to interest many people though...

www.bloomberg.com...

If you really care about America you should read this and consider what this case really means.

And if you think that this case doesn't have such broad implications. If you think that such a "petty" little issue can't change the course of our country, then you don't know much about the way the Supreme Court works.



posted on Oct, 10 2007 @ 08:04 PM
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If you really care about America you should read this and consider what this case really means.


Oh I am quite aware of what this means. The traitor in the White House has sold out the American public once again. What the world opinion and the opinion of a country that violates our laws daily on a national scale is more important than justice for two American victims. Oh there must have been a lot on the line in the back rooms to make this former governor snap in line. Funny how he had no problem juicing the condemned as governor (and rightfully so) as long as they were Americans, but God forbid we can't allow a murderer to die if they are an illegal, what would the world think!



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