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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: DBCowboy
He is a coward. Mr. Bone spurs.
Everyone knows that he cheated his way out of selective service just like he cheats at everything.
Everyone knows.
originally posted by: Sillyolme
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: network dude
Credit?
Sorry, but you don't get credit for avoiding a war that you almost started. That's like asking for credit not giving somebody a concussion after you've walked up behind them and slugged them with a baseball bat.
Trump could have avoided a war simply by going golfing instead. Or sleeping in, or literally anything else.
War with Iran isn't inevitable, it's an artificially created situation caused by hawks in Washington demanding that nobody have greater regional influence than America.
My thoughts exactly. You don't get credit for getting us out of the trouble you got us into.
He has to go. NOW !
originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
a reply to: bastion
It's relevant. By giving them access to nuclear, tech, money they are not going to change anything in regards to abuses of human rights. It will get worse that's why. Nothing in those agreements was tied to improving human rights in their country. I have a serious problem with that as a US tax payer. I don't want my money going to any country doing that stuff.
The latest agreement between the Government of Iran and negotiations from six nations on limiting the scope of the Gulf country’s nuclear programme has opened the door to further discussion of the Iranian human rights situation, according to an independent United Nations expert.
originally posted by: network dude
I'm of the belief that no matter what he does, those who hate him will contort, twist, and flop their way into finding a negative and some way to bash him. They hate, for the sake of hating. But at this time, EVERYONE is saying the same thing. Iran doesn't want war. Trump doesn't want war. The haters claim to not want war, but knowing that Trump's stance is that, it's likely to change completely.
War is idiotic. People die, regular people, us. Buildings are destroyed, sometimes amazing structures that should be preserved for future generations to marvel at. Lives are disrupted. And in the end, the side who lost the lest, wins. Yay! I have seen what war can do. No, I have never been engaged in war, I have never fired a weapon at a person for any reason. But while I was in the USAF, we flew into Sarajevo to drop supplies. On the approach, we flew over the city, or what was left of it. Mostly destroyed homes. People moving around pushing their last worldly possessions in a shopping cart. And from the looks of them, they weren't aggressors in any way. More like the remnants of a town decimated by a stupid war. We flew into Croatia, and saw what I thought was the most beautiful landscape I had ever seen. A winery overlooking huge cliffs and massive waves crashing far below. Not long after my visit, I was told that too, was decimated and erased. Was that considered a win, or a loss?
The point is, war isn't the way to progress. I believe Trump knows that, and his opposition to it has to do with the human cost. Ruling a nation with that kind of conscience must be hell. I wish those who flippantly throw armchair comments would try to put themselves in that place for a moment, before the jaws flap.
If you are spiritual, please pray for peace not war. Hope and Pray that the leaders of other nations also understand and fear the human cost of war. And try to remember your stance on all this, so when you decide to guzzle that hatoraid once more, you realize it's what causes that ugly look on your face, not the President. And don't be afraid to offer that rare praise for someone doing the right thing.
originally posted by: Sillyolme
Did you even read how this drastic option was only put on the list so that Trump would chose one of the other options?
But noooooo. He goes for the most drastic option on the list.
originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: CynConcepts
No one in my family avoided the draft.
Both my father, my brother and now my son served.
originally posted by: Sillyolme
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: network dude
Credit?
Sorry, but you don't get credit for avoiding a war that you almost started. That's like asking for credit not giving somebody a concussion after you've walked up behind them and slugged them with a baseball bat.
Trump could have avoided a war simply by going golfing instead. Or sleeping in, or literally anything else.
War with Iran isn't inevitable, it's an artificially created situation caused by hawks in Washington demanding that nobody have greater regional influence than America.
My thoughts exactly. You don't get credit for getting us out of the trouble you got us into.
He has to go. NOW !
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: network dude
Trump could have avoided a war simply by going golfing instead. Or sleeping in, or literally anything else.
War with Iran isn't inevitable, it's an artificially created situation caused by hawks in Washington demanding that nobody have greater regional influence than America.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: network dude
War, you will know it when you see it.
And the avoiding part, well, I feel like that will also be self evident. If Trump is able to move forward without escalating the conflict with Iran, and DE-ESCALATE the current tensions, I feel like that will be a win for both sides. I feel like if that is the outcome, it will be a good one and worthy of praise for all who were part of it happening.
I don't know if you remember, but this started with Iran attacking the US embassy.
That was an act of war.
As much as I'm against war, I am also against looking weak and inept as a nation. It's an ugly fine line that needs to be balanced and I really don't think it's an easy one, with war hawks screaming in one ear and haters who claim they want peace screaming in the other.
And in the end, if only I feel like he did a good job, it will be enough for me.
originally posted by: 19Bones79
originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: 19Bones79
Fake except for the very real tears I wept at both of those sites. Don't you mock my emotions. That's the lowest of blows.
You know nothing about me!
Go back to your mothers basement.
You sound like quite the patriot, I guess.
Who knew?
The attack inflamed tensions in the region with Iran's Supreme Leader warning America that Tuesday night's missile attack on two bases was merely 'a slap' and that such strikes are 'not enough' to punish the US.
originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: 19Bones79
Don't you mock my emotions. That's the lowest of blows.
You know nothing about me!
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: network dude
Just saw this:
'We do not seek escalation or war': Iran's foreign minister says it has 'concluded' retaliation after Tehran targets US troops in missile attacks as Trump tweets 'all is well' and says he will deliver statement today
Is Iran crying "uncle"? (I guess that would be "Uncle Sam," eh?) Encouraging for sure. Hopefully we'll find out more when Trump hold his press conference in a bit.