Senate Republicans are moving to dismiss the impeachment articles for Lack of Prosecution

originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: DBCowboy

Christ you guys are reaching.

In another thread, someone said I was no different than Suli-goat-humper.

Now you're saying Suli-bacon-eater is no different than Pompeo.

I honestly don't know if you are pro-terrorist or just really anti-Trump.

But either way, it makes you look rather dim-witted.

Funny you say, "dim witted", if I said something like that, I'd get a very nice PM telling me I was being ill-mannered...so be it I suppose, some seem to be able to get away with stuff, others don't.

Anyway, what you called me is actually more relative to yourself, since what I was saying...is in fact truth.

That's the hilarious part of things. When you come to do a little digging, (at least I hope you do) you will find so many similarities between the Iranian Ultra conservatives, and especially the American ultra right wingers.
They are very powerful, extremely fundamental in their religion as well as being very capitalistic.
The IRG control many companies for instance, and are responsible for the output, (it might be interesting just who are those who invest in these companies)

Some snippets,
The Principlists and reformists......
"Ultra conservatives—also known as neoconservatives—consists of laymen representing the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) collectively. These conservatives support the Islamist government and are more aggressive and openly confrontational toward the West."

en.wikipedia.org...

Book published by RAND corp,
The Rise of the Pasdaran: Assessing the Domestic Roles of IranA's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps,

www.jstor.org...

Have a nice read!

Iranian Shia are not Capitalistic. At least not in the ordinary sense. Sharia Law requires not to use usury loans. Larry Summers allowed taxpayer monies to be used in Sharia compliant loans in AIG. You should really do your homework better.
You are equating Capitalism wirh “ far right conservatives”? Does that mean that the a Democrat Party is officially socialist ?
You do know that socialism today requires the use of capitalist money to support an otherwise unsustainable program ... again more homework needed. Also Sharia Law is more totalitarian which makes it more leftist. Marxism infiltrated the Catholic religion as well as Protestant sector so again you are wrong. Equating Islamic fundamentalist with the religious right is just a lousy smack in the face by a very biased individual.

originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: DBCowboy

Christ you guys are reaching.

In another thread, someone said I was no different than Suli-goat-humper.

Now you're saying Suli-bacon-eater is no different than Pompeo.

I honestly don't know if you are pro-terrorist or just really anti-Trump.

But either way, it makes you look rather dim-witted.

Funny you say, "dim witted", if I said something like that, I'd get a very nice PM telling me I was being ill-mannered...so be it I suppose, some seem to be able to get away with stuff, others don't.

Anyway, what you called me is actually more relative to yourself, since what I was saying...is in fact truth.

That's the hilarious part of things. When you come to do a little digging, (at least I hope you do) you will find so many similarities between the Iranian Ultra conservatives, and especially the American ultra right wingers.
They are very powerful, extremely fundamental in their religion as well as being very capitalistic.
The IRG control many companies for instance, and are responsible for the output, (it might be interesting just who are those who invest in these companies)

Some snippets,
The Principlists and reformists......
"Ultra conservatives—also known as neoconservatives—consists of laymen representing the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) collectively. These conservatives support the Islamist government and are more aggressive and openly confrontational toward the West."

en.wikipedia.org...

Book published by RAND corp,
The Rise of the Pasdaran: Assessing the Domestic Roles of IranA's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps,

www.jstor.org...

Have a nice read!

Iranian Shia are not Capitalistic. At least not in the ordinary sense. Sharia Law requires not to use usury loans. Larry Summers allowed taxpayer monies to be used in Sharia compliant loans in AIG. You should really do your homework better.
You are equating Capitalism wirh “ far right conservatives”? Does that mean that the a Democrat Party is officially socialist ?
You do know that socialism today requires the use of capitalist money to support an otherwise unsustainable program ... again more homework needed. Also Sharia Law is more totalitarian which makes it more leftist. Marxism infiltrated the Catholic religion as well as Protestant sector so again you are wrong. Equating Islamic fundamentalist with the religious right is just a lousy smack in the face by a very biased individual. Not to mention that the socialist Left Democrats support radical Islamic. Really makes one wonder.

originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus



What dies right wing mean in Arabic ? Don’t even go there. Your anti religion slip is showing. Surely you are ok with Nancy’s pro choice version of Catholicism while she flaunts her power with the gavel ?

Oh dear! another one!

I take it you don't even know that, 'Communism' is banned in Iran?

The rise of the Mullah control in Iran did come as knee jerk against communist infiltration after the Bolshevik Revolution, however Islamic Fundamentalsm contains a more totalitarian approach. Please see my post on Sharia Compliant loans.
When considering Islam, one should think carefully about it snd understand it. It is far more closely related to leftist ideology than ordinary religion. It seems control and domination over every aspect of life. Much more similar to how the political left in the US behaves.

TOTALITARIANISM Totalitarianism is a political system of absolute power where the state has no limit to its authority and regulates most aspects of public and private life. There are no competing political parties since they would balance and limit authority. The critical element of totalitarianism is absolute power striving to rule in as many areas of life as possible.

www.politicalislam.com...

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

When considering Islam, one should think carefully about it snd understand it. It is far more closely related to leftist ideology than ordinary religion. It seems control and domination over every aspect of life. Much more similar to how the political left in the US behaves.

It certainly seems like that..if they are all ultraconservative Wahabi's but they are not, and the Persians are certainly not, they still carry their Persian traits over, and their language, a modern version albeit with derivative words from other languages...and their version of Islam! Ethnic Persians make up something more than 50% of Iran, while other religions live in Iran as well.

To characterise the years of Islamic reign is difficult because of both highs and lows, that it was in a disconnect with the rest of the world is very true high consumption at home, and exporting less...however not importing more than exporting at the same time, while war wrecked the economy, and there were protests on the streets in a big way when fuel price increases occurred, something that is happening again now because of sanctions.

Measures agreed on in privatisation never really took place,but are still open, just not acted upon, while government organisations including the revolutionary guard 'owns' many of the companies outright instead of the 80% and a government controlling 20% that was agreed back a while, and the big failure was still having a sizeable poor population although a deal less than it used to be, while the rich grew as did their Porsche parties...on going.
Corruption, black marketeering...capitalistic ploys in themselves, are all methods that the Islamic government have attempted to disable just to have some kind of equilibrium with the Rial and the Dollar and it failed, or was it meant to fail by government entities lower down less dedicated to a cause.
However, the thing is, these are all signs of a long realisation by the government that a supreme religious leader in charge of a kind of Democracy is never going to work in the long run...well not in Iran at least.

Here's a piece from Gulf news in 2017,
gulfnews.com...
And the BBC,
www.bbc.co.uk...

Together it explains a lot...something you won't like it seems, Trump kissing ass in one place and kicking ass in another.

Ewww!

a reply to: smurfy

You really don't understand Iranians history, government or inner workings do you?

When was the last time mike Pompeo had someone hanged because he was gay?

Beside the point. Alot of people talk about things they have not put a single effort into learning about. Most people in fact. They see surface similarities like this poster, and run with it. It's how we ended up with the reee culture.

That's okay, some liberal group is asking the senate ethics committee to investigate a few republican senators because of what they've said. What they are saying is basically we can't try the president because the republicans are too bias.
Okay, impeachment fail, the republicans found a loophole in the constitution... just publicly announce your bias.. thank yous for teaching the dems that neat trick!!! Matter of fact, this president has taught them quite a few neat tricks!! Cant wait till they get back in the White House, should be fun.
Thinking of ordering a few t shirts that say something like
"If one is above the law, we all are above the law" and hand rolling some stinking tobacco cigs to go smoke in front of the cop shop..

Senate Republicans are moving to dismiss the impeachment articles for Lack of Prosecution

yes, dropping any prosecution/trial would be correct... the person/office being Impeached needs to have a decision of guilt or innocence within a concise timeframe (( if it takes 3 weeks to vote for Articles then it should be 3 weeks to present the Impeachment to the Senate))


the Pelosi antics of holding the Articles-for-Impeachment in a folder in her desk is not what the Founding Fathers had in mind for any alleged acts of High Crimes/Bribery or other misdemenors….. and holding the impeachment like a Sword-of-Damocles over the head of the office holder (so his/her administrative duties are affected adversely

I think that the house inquiry/hearings to find grounds for impeachment are so laughable that Pelosi is afraid she will be mocked if the articles are forwarded to the formal Senate Trial

Looks like Hawley succeeded in forcing Pelosi to submit the articles.

originally posted by: St Udio
Senate Republicans are moving to dismiss the impeachment articles for Lack of Prosecution

yes, dropping any prosecution/trial would be correct... the person/office being Impeached needs to have a decision of guilt or innocence within a concise timeframe (( if it takes 3 weeks to vote for Articles then it should be 3 weeks to present the Impeachment to the Senate))


the Pelosi antics of holding the Articles-for-Impeachment in a folder in her desk is not what the Founding Fathers had in mind for any alleged acts of High Crimes/Bribery or other misdemenors….. and holding the impeachment like a Sword-of-Damocles over the head of the office holder (so his/her administrative duties are affected adversely

I think that the house inquiry/hearings to find grounds for impeachment are so laughable that Pelosi is afraid she will be mocked if the articles are forwarded to the formal Senate Trial

You are so wrong. What Pelosi is doing is exactly what the founders would have wanted given the Republicans refusal to hold a real trial. Until they agree to do so, the Founders would sit on the case as well. They would also start impeaching Senators who vow to usurp the constitution and refuse to follow their constitutional mandate. Just because it is your man running afoul of the law, it doesn't mean the law should be broken by everyone else, but unfortunately that is what it is coming to.

The super important and critical for the safety of the USA impeachment had to be done immediately.

And now it just sits. Apparently it wasn't as important as the Dems told us.

a reply to: jjkenobi

The super important impeachment was gonna sit through their vacation anyways because nothing is more important than their holiday break...
And, what have we been contending with this week? Oh ya, assassination, bombings, let's get out of iraq.

a reply to: sligtlyskeptical

Wow... the Captain must have sailed into a magnetic Anomaly.... the compass is going haywire from the 'Spin' of your post


amazing

originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical

You are so wrong. What Pelosi is doing is exactly what the founders would have wanted given the Republicans refusal to hold a real trial. Until they agree to do so, the Founders would sit on the case as well. They would also start impeaching Senators who vow to usurp the constitution and refuse to follow their constitutional mandate. Just because it is your man running afoul of the law, it doesn't mean the law should be broken by everyone else, but unfortunately that is what it is coming to.

So the founders would have wanted a full partisan impeachment? They would have wanted the majority party to change impeachment proceedings norms at will to fit anything they want? Limit witnesses to just one side? Actually change the articles of impeachment from unlawful acts to acts that are not unlawful with vague meaning?

I never knew...